Can Sharingan's Genjutsu work on Byakugan users?

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This.. looking at someone's Chakraflow to determine whether he is affected by Genjutsu is not the same as being the one affected by the Genjutsu.. A Genjutsu works by controlling someone's Chakra in the brain. What protection does the Byakugan grant you against that? BS.
You realise you can check your own chakra flow right?

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They thought they were caught in a mirage genjutsu and Hinata was checking [ ]
 

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sharingan genjutsu works even on sharingan users...so yes,

+ i don't think byakugan works like sharingan which can copy jutsu and see trough jutsu mechanism and how it works
 
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You realise you can check your own chakra flow right?

You should know there are different types of genjutsu. If it's one that Puts you in a paralyzed state or any other form of comatose state, The byakugan user is still affected and can't do anything about it.


Byakugan will help against reality simulated genjutsu? Yes. Stating all other types of gen is just ridiculous


I also disagree with the sentiments of some of your scans
For one, Being able to utilize Sharingan to look at your hands and legs are not going to help you realize you're in a genjutsu.Considering the control of chakra mostly takes place in your cranial nerves, something you can't see on yourself. Prime reason sharingan users Like Danzo can still be caught in genjutsu
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IMO,
Byakugan users can see the chakra flow when someone uses Genjutsu (even the strongest genjutsus of Uchihas)
Byakugan users can fall for Genjutsus but can free themselves (even from strongest Genjutsus, can't say about KA unless another Byakugan user helps) by disrupting their own chakra networks. ( That's their specialty, not talking about freeing themselves but the latter part )
 

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Yes. An expert Byakugan user can break it.
Proof :Danzo at Kage summit when a guy with an implanted Byakugan could break lose from Kotoamatsuki.

But Sharingan >>Byakugan
 

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You should know there are different types of genjutsu. If it's one that Puts you in a paralyzed state or any other form of comatose state, The byakugan user is still affected and can't do anything about it.


Byakugan will help against reality simulated genjutsu? Yes. Stating all other types of gen is just ridiculous


I also disagree with the sentiments of some of your scans
For one, Being able to utilize Sharingan to look at your hands and legs are not going to help you realize you're in a genjutsu.Considering the control of chakra mostly takes place in your cranial nerves, something you can't see on yourself. Prime reason sharingan users Like Danzo can still be caught in genjutsu
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And this is exactly why I think you are the best debater on narutobase owarij strikes agian
 

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You should know there are different types of genjutsu. If it's one that Puts you in a paralyzed state or any other form of comatose state, The byakugan user is still affected and can't do anything about it.


Byakugan will help against reality simulated genjutsu? Yes. Stating all other types of gen is just ridiculous


I also disagree with the sentiments of some of your scans
For one, Being able to utilize Sharingan to look at your hands and legs are not going to help you realize you're in a genjutsu.Considering the control of chakra mostly takes place in your cranial nerves, something you can't see on yourself. Prime reason sharingan users Like Danzo can still be caught in genjutsu
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1- I know there are different types of genjutsu. The kanashibari genjutsu gives paralysing effects, the simulative genjutsu gives imaginary thoughts, and there are ones made for torture or collecting informations

2- You're wrong concerning the working of genjutsu. While genjutsu takes control of the chakra in the head, it's the entire flow of chakra which is disturbed. As an example, look at Rin's chakra flow in the Kakashi gaiden when Obito was watching and you'll realise it's her entire chakra flow that was disturbing(can't show pics at the moment), so no seeing any part of the body being disturbed would allow you to notice any genjutsu

3- Never said noticing genjutsu breaks you free. To break free, you would have to cast a release(dispelling genjutsu or kai release).
 

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While genjutsu takes control of the chakra in the head, it's the entire flow of chakra which is disturbed

That would be completely situational and based on what the genjutsu's purpose is. For example Projecting a mirage would only require control of the ninjas brain and specifically the optic nerve
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Whether a full body paralysis requires more than that isn't the point because even if we go back to the original argument on "Can Sharingan's Genjutsu work on Byakugan users" The answer is Yes.
All Genjutsu can still work on them. They simply have tools that others do not to defeat it and thus certain types become less effective than others.


As for your rin comment, it only proves my previous point. That different gen require different levels of control, and to completely restrain Rin and put her in that comatose state, a full body control was needed.
 

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Sharingan's Genjutsu work on Byakugan users" The answer is Yes.
All Genjutsu can still work on them. They simply have tools that others do not to defeat it and thus certain types become less effective than others.

I totally agree with you.
 

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i dont know but ..
Sharingan > Byakugan
 

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Visual genjutsu won't work against byakugan if byakugan user is skilled enough....! when obito disappeared kakashi had MS but still hinata checked for genjutsu and kakashi didn't check himself showing full trust....! in my opinion byakugan is better against genjutsu then sharingan...!
 

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Depends on how strong the Genjutsu is. However, Byakugan can see their chakra network and so, they will be able to tell if they're affected by Genjutsu.
 

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If genjutsu works on a Rinnegan user, why wouldn't it work on a Byakugan user?.
 

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The Byakugan logically provides the same defense as a Sharingan.
 

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That would be completely situational and based on what the genjutsu's purpose is. For example Projecting a mirage would only require control of the ninjas brain and specifically the optic nerve
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Whether a full body paralysis requires more than that isn't the point because even if we go back to the original argument on "Can Sharingan's Genjutsu work on Byakugan users" The answer is Yes.
All Genjutsu can still work on them. They simply have tools that others do not to defeat it and thus certain types become less effective than others.


As for your rin comment, it only proves my previous point. That different gen require different levels of control, and to completely restrain Rin and put her in that comatose state, a full body control was needed.

But you're forgetting one small detail that the Byakugan can do that puts it above Sharingan Genjutsu.

See through the girl's Bathroom without being detected.
 

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We never seen any Hyuuga and uchiha clashing for a real battle.
What do you guys think?

Hard to say. When it comes to the normal genjutsu, no, but when it comes to Tsukuyomi, probably yes, unless Byakugan too has a second level, which has never been shown.

I honestly wanted to see Neji bring his to a second level and fight an edo Shisui, but no dice.
 
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When Danzo used KotoAmatsukami at the Kage Summit (using Shisuis eye) it was a Byakugan user who was able to recognise and see through it.

Ao wasn't the target of Kotoamatsukami. He remembered just the color of Shisuis chakra inside Danzō.


So far as we know the Byakugan doesn't have any special connection to Genjutsu or to Inton. Means: The main ability of the Sharingan to see through all Jutsu isn't a propertie of the Byakugan. And the Sharingan is able to use such Genjutsu that no one-even Hyuga or sensor Shinobi- could realise it.
 
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Byakugan users can get caught, even if they notice it it can be too late. Once they are caught seeing chakra network is useless to them, unfortunately we will never get to see how a hyuga handles genjutsu.

The guy at kage summit was never the target. He didn't break out of anything.

If infinite tsukiyomi can work the regular one and other higher level genjutsu should.
 
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