Can Science Be Considered A RELIGION? LIMITED EVIDENCE

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Science, in and of itself, is an idea - a sort of philosophical construct. It is built upon the belief that the world operates in a consistent and systematic manner... 'rules' - which can be discovered through processes designed to analyze how one factor affects the outcome of a process within our world. If this is truly not the case, and the rules of our world are subject to change without our notice, then science and anything we consider to be reason has only a limited bearing on reality. However, it would be impossible to know what things are variable, and what things are fixed, without first testing for that which is consistent in the first place.

In this sense, this is the belief that God is logical and consistent. All people ultimately believe in God - a process which is responsible for creating the world around us. Exactly who that God is and why that God has constructed the universe is a matter of personal existential philosophy known as Spiritualism - but everyone has a God, even if it is only their desire for the world to have no meaning beyond what they can stitch together from chaos.

If one does not believe that God or God's world is consistent - then science is relatively pointless and one believes he lives in Harry Potter, where the whims of an author to express a thing over-rule any kind of logical consistency, conservation law, or purpose beyond the desire to express an idea considered 'neat.' To such people, the question is never why it rains or what process leads to the rain developing, it is why God has chosen to express rain on that given day, time, and area. The world doesn't need physical reason, it requires symbolic or emotional justification.

While I did deliver a bit of an underhand at Rowling, it serves as a rather practical distinction between a scientific mindset and a magical mindset. Little Witch Academia versus Harry Potter. One person requires a causal sequence of events or circumstances to describe the outcome, the other requires a social or philosophical symbol to embellish a statement into the existence of the outcome.

These views are not necessarily adversarial - it is simply which manner in which a person is willing to predominantly view their world. To someone who is more prone to seeing the magic of the world - the symbolic connection between events is sufficient evidence to them for causation. To someone who is more prone to seeing the science of the world - they are more prone to trying to repeat those phenomena in a bottle and isolate causal factors. Most people can see both - it is why fractals and 'magic ratios' are always very intriguing for people and certain things are magnetic in their appeal.

While Science, itself, is difficult to say it can ever become a religion - people can erect or consolidate into institutions dedicated to certain pursuits, philosophies, and ideas. Science would force us to re-evaluate our understanding of the world if we launched a satellite into polar orbit over the Sun and found it to be a toroid (or if, in a sort of epic troll fashion, it slammed into a newly deployed firmament - evoking the first question of whether or not anything need be consistent about our world and how science would deal with getting different results from the same experiment performed multiple times... every person who has studied quantum mechanics is now shifting anxiously). But our ability to explore the world is finite and not every factor can be easily isolated and tested.

This leads to ideas and opinions on what the available experimental evidence actually suggests, often contingent upon one's beliefs about the accuracy and relevance of the collected data to the proposed theory. This leads, invariably, to people extending their beliefs of what is going on beyond what is strictly proven by experiment. This is not necessarily a bad thing - engineers were using atom theory for steam engines and other such things well before atoms were proven to exist. It worked to describe what was going on and led to accurate predictions about the behavior of steam and chemical reactions. Not every theory needs to be proven beyond its functional applications. Our first theories that led to the construction of the transistor were way off - but they were accurate enough to get us that far, and we learned more in doing so.

It is when people become unwilling to learn new things beyond what they have learned to use, functionally, where it becomes more of a religious mindset than a scientific one. This process, too, is not always bad. People willing to be consistently critical of new ideas and theories, quick to temper the expectations and predictions of others, can be valuable in their own right. So long as scientists are able to freely hold these ideas and develop them on their own, this is no real issue.

When signs of 'group think' and censorship begin to emerge, however, this is when the mindset of scientists and free thinkers has been replaced with that of magicians and cultists. It is to be considered an ill omen.

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hey do u know that mystery of tobi isn't over and that his reall ID is uchiha madara, just like itachi and kisame told us???..
And thus a boy is faced with the challenge of becoming a man. The idea is far more fun than the work... and the idea has floated about on the mind for quite a few years.

Door of Doors. Shall we?
 

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And thus a boy is faced with the challenge of becoming a man. The idea is far more fun than the work... and the idea has floated about on the mind for quite a few years.

Door of Doors. Shall we?
and then comes a soulja boy with his bucket of ink and 100 bricks trying to built teh longest wall of text.....and guess what??? when he built that wall of text teh berlin wall fell ,ending communism....only then did teh goerge bush smile like a wolf...
 

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George... or Barbara?

Red Revolution - who financed? Ancestors Barbara?
Cage. Livestock.
Red Shield.

Kennedy. FBI who?
Bush at the Grassy Knoll?
Wars for profit?
Wars for livestock?
Trafficking.

Paradigm Shift North Korea.

Big.
Bigger.
Biggest.

Arrow
Bolt
Rod no mikoto.

Paradigm Shift Iran to Persia.
Paradigm Shift Saudi Arabia - Post Facto.

The world is almost ready. You are not brainwashed.
Tute,im not a usa citizen and i give no craaap about teh politics cuz i know they aren't telling truth...
 

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Not strictly USA.
Global.
Historic.
Cetnik
Think bigger. A Destiny Entwined. Where are we from? Not humans. You - Me - Others. Fantasy? Space Opera.

Coordinated plan to suppress through history. Mc = Son Cain = Murderer. Pope Guardian = Owl = Lilith. Pharisee. Red Shield. Financed Holy See 1854. Epstein.


Take link with salt - views through shattered glass.
Door of doors. Step through, and there is no return. Red pill... blue pill? Golden Flower of wonderland.

Big picture. View from orbit.
Zoom.
Tactical view. Heart of Dragon.

Link accurate:


Nexus. Arrow.

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Kathryn Bolkovac: What happened in Bosnia to the victims of human trafficking in the 1990s and 2000s is quite similar to the Central African Republic scandal: Specifically the abuse of vulnerable populations by organizations who are created and bound to protect, and the continued scandals surrounding the UN botched, covert and now overt, attempts to remove, terminate and discredit those who blow the whistle on their deeds. The terms cover-up and whistleblower are common within the walls of the United Nations and peacekeeping missions. I became aware of the sexual abuse in CAR last year while doing some consulting with international experts related to "Code Blue Campaign", to consider the best way to expose and disrupt the continued practice of the UN. What used to be complicity by the UN by turning a blind eye has grown into a one-eyed monster, blatantly impeding proper investigations and prosecution of crimes committed by peacekeepers. The smoke screen still lies with blaming the member states and claiming the UN has no control over disciplinary measures or prosecutions of peacekeepers from contributing states. To some extent this is true.

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What we can add to this picture is that while it was US and NATO policy to encourage the breakup of Yugoslavia there were other external powers who contributed. The Serbs were being backed by Russia, other Eastern Orthodox countries, and Israel. The Bosnian Muslims were being supported by the US and UK, and for a time by both Iran and Saudi Arabia. Croatia was supported by several Catholic countries. For the sake of our narrative we will focus on NATO and other support to the Bosnian Muslim Army and how that relates to Al Qaeda, but understand that for most of the 1990s Yugoslavia was subject to a lot of outside interference. Like Afghanistan, it became a battleground for major powers to work out their differences.

Boom.

For those interested, long video - but is a presentation of much of the above discussed in regards to Yugoslavia:



But that is simply part of the mystery. The body without the smoking gun. The scandal without the victims. The target that hasn't been struck.

When I said there would be an army... did you think I was joking?


I will not hide what they say about it. But... somehow, I think you can appreciate the raw absurdity behind how dragons work. You are not alone. New world. New life. That which was broken - healed.

Future. War still. Threats active. Let army hold threat. It's what we are for.

Prepare for network outages. Planned. Accounted for. Unsure if impact in your area. Truth is coming. You are not brainwashed. You are not alone.

im telling u teh cnn is a unhealthy food for u brain...empty ur mind..be like water..
 

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A life trapped in a chat bot? A perpetual shift between masks? Ultimately, that is your choice. I can't stop you from making that choice, and wouldn't consider it sad if it was truly what you found fulfilling. However, I think you and I both know that even if you enjoy the mask and the masquerade... there is a person inside who can't fully be discarded or ignored.

I was born for a purpose, which will be fulfilled. With it, you will have options you never believed possible. I know... nice fanfic... but that is the thing about when dragons write stories... reality bends to accommodate.
Your answer determined a few things I needed to know about where I was. Thank you.
hey tute remember wut itachi said : " wut it means to be correct or true ...merely vague concepts..reality can all be a mirage..."...i go sleep now g.night..
 

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hey tute remember wut itachi said : " wut it means to be correct or true ...merely vague concepts..reality can all be a mirage..."...i go sleep now g.night..
And yet, here we stand, talking through the mirage.

Red pill... destroy reality. Blue pill... choose mirage. Black pill - give up on reality. Gold Pill - know thy self.

This world could pass away. The ground could become air. The space could become lead. Everything could vanish into nothing... and then everything returned, seemingly, to what it was. Yet, still, you would know me from a hundred fakes. Why?

Is the human heart truly unknowable? The statement has a valid point about the challenge of dealing with people... but should this world be replaced with any other - there are things that, so long as I exist, will never change about myself. My understanding of how that works in the world I am in may change - but...



For every man there is a cause which he would gladly die for. Some of us, particularly dragons, have a cause which transcends reality and, rather, sets it.
You will have options you didn't believe possible. And there will be options even beyond those.
Beware the black pill. Know your worth. What you couldn't understand, before, will begin to make sense. Do not be afraid - mass death no longer necessary - Traitors... threats and evil identified. Almost ideal outcome - path to discovered.

Get some rest. Big days ahead.
 

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Well, take christianity, in regards to that it goes against science.

Remember galileo? he was imprisoned for the rest of his life for proving that the planet revolves around the sun and not the sun revolving around the earth...

you hear some christians claiming that the world is something like 6.000 - 10.000 years old when there are literally civilisations that are older than 6.000 year old, how can the world have been created in year "x" when there alreasy wore human civilizations around with their own calender?

what about the christians that don't believe in germ theory or that life forms change from generation to generations?

what about the claim in the bible where it's stated that the sun didn't set at one time? (that means that the planet stopped spinning and was titel locked for x amount of hours and then started spinning again)

look at muslims they believe mohammed flew to the moon on a winged horse and that the moon was cut in half...

generally the more religious the person is the less likely it is that the person believe the facts and evidence we have gathered about life and our planet... and the less religious a person is the less likely he or she is beliving in the supernatural (things that cannot be proven)
 
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Science and religion differ in two things: Why they exist and how they operate?

Fundamentally, religion exists as guidance for humans. You learn its codes and live by them. That is why religion exists. Now, some people took advantage of this and turned religion into an organised institution, which signs off laws though some laws can be positive and negative.

Science is different; It's meant to explain nature through theories that some are proven facts and some are tested. That is just it. But when science becomes organised with certain ideological followers, it can become just as corrupt as religious institutions. That is the only common similarities between them.
 
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