Can Sasuke use Shinra Tensei?

[Vapid]

So Obito can use Shinra Tensei too?

Potentially, I guess so.

However, you have to factor in Sasuke being a natural genius, compared to Obito and Madara, who are just educated and aren't fast learners; while Sasuke may use Shinra Tensei in the upcoming chapters, due to being smart enough to master his Rinnegan in only 20/25 chapters, it would have likely taken years for Madara and Obito (especially) to master their Rinnegan to the same extent. This is really the only reason why Sasuke is already so proficient with his Rinnegan: he's smarter and more prodigious than all of the previous Rinnegan users (excluding Hagoromo obviously).

Also remember that both Chibaku Tensei and Shinra Tensei fall under the Deva Path; i.e., Sasuke already has the gravitational abilities that fall under the Deva Path, with Shinra Tensei being one of them.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

If he can use Chibaku Tensei, then by all logic he should have access to Shinra Tensei.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

That's not how it works Rinnegan comes with six paths jutsu's MS does not come with every MS power. How do people not get this.

Oh God, Itachi said you needed Amaterasu and Tsukyomi to get Susano'o, how did that work out? That means Obito and Madara had all the paths as Jinchuuriki. Remember that time when Obito couldn't use Kamui as the Juubi Jin? Wait didn't Madara use Kamui as Juubi Jin though? Logic doesn't always work, how do you not get this?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Of course. He used planetary devastation, which is a form of deva path. This clearly shows almighty push potential. Sasuke's rinnegan is unique. It doesn't follow the same rules as Hagoromo's or Madara's. It can be full-power as an individual rinnegan.

 

[Draphsin]

However, you have to factor in Sasuke being a natural genius, compared to Obito and Madara

Madara was much more of a genius than sasuke. He was killing senju adults around sasuke's age in base plus he immediately gained control of hashi's mokuton abilities upon revival.

 

[Erebus]

If Sasuke has all the powers, Madara and Obito have Amaterasu and Tsukyomi because they have Susano'o.

Moral of the story: Don't use logic to make assumptions... You know what?... Just don't make assumptions. It's Kishi's manga, after all.

You argument is sort of messed up, Ametaratsu and Tsukiyomi were/are Sasuke and Itachi's MS techs, like kamui is to Obito and Koto to Shisui.

OT: Yes he can, he already used CT which is a deva path tech and so is ST, you can arguable say he might not be able to use it now because in his own words he still getting used to the renningan, but there is no question to the fact that he should be able to

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I don't know how you made that correlation...my POINT is that you CAN male assumptions cause kishi makes no sense over half of the time in his manga he literally breaks his own logic, you're applying logic to a series that defies logic like logically sasuke should win this fight but due to plot he'll lose. But one can still assume sasuke can win and be TNJ'd by other ways. Take Madara he was at the height of his game people assumed Naruto and sasuke would tame him down if I assumed before hand randomly it'd be black zetsu no one would believe me but look it happens, kishi makes no sense sometimes, it's easy to assume something but since kishi breaks his own logic you can't assume but at the same time that doesn't mean you CAN'T assume either.

People assume since saauke can use CT tensei he can use shines tensei. Since CT USES GRAVITY TO PERFORM THE MOVE so it's only natural to assume sasuke van also use other gravitational like moves. I'm saying you can assume it but that doesn't mean you have to. You're saying you can't assume period which in itself is incorrect. It's based on a consensus of perspective.

Your post was literally just saying you could be wrong or right by assuming... you made no sense there what so ever. If Kishi doesn't use logic, like you just said, then it means DO NOT assume. I'm saying don't apply logic.

 

[ANiMUS]

He has shown CT as well as free form Deva Path when he brought over the CT orbs so its safe to say Sasuke has Shinra Tensei

 

[Vapid]

Madara was much more of a genius than sasuke. He was killing senju adults around sasuke's age in base plus he immediately gained control of hashi's mokuton abilities upon revival.

He lived in a completely different era than Sasuke. While Sasuke was a child in an era of peace (for the most part l0l), Madara was raised in Hell.

And even then, 16-year-old Sasuke > 16-year-old Madara in intelligence.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Potentially, I guess so.

However, you have to factor in Sasuke being a natural genius, compared to Obito and Madara, who are just educated and aren't fast learners; while Sasuke may use Shinra Tensei in the upcoming chapters, due to being smart enough to master his Rinnegan in only 20/25 chapters, it would have likely taken years for Madara and Obito (especially) to master their Rinnegan to the same extent. This is really the only reason why Sasuke is already so proficient with his Rinnegan: he's smarter and more prodigious than all of the previous Rinnegan users (excluding Hagoromo obviously).

Also remember that both Chibaku Tensei and Shinra Tensei fall under the Deva Path; i.e., Sasuke already has the gravitational abilities that fall under the Deva Path, with Shinra Tensei being one of them.

Plenty of people believe Obito can't use all 6 paths technique, especially Deva Path because Obito didn't have both rinnegan. And Obito never used any Deva Path technique as well. Meaning you need both rinnegan to use all rinnegan techs.
I wonder why Obito never used a single Deva Path technique...

And rinnegan is inconsistent too; Kaguya, Madara and Sasuke all have their unique Rinnegan jutsu (dimension shift, limbo, teleportation)

 

[VongolaX]

Anyone with a rinnegan can use shrina tensei or all other paths.

It's a matter if he knows how to, and that answer is: "No."

 

[LuckyMan]

How does that work? Just because you have a Mangekyou doesn't mean you can use every technique granted by it.

If you use one of the Six Paths with a Rinnegan, however, there's a damn good chance (practically 100%) that you can use the other 5 as well.

And just because you have rinnegan does not mean you get every technique granted by it.

 

[Styles]

Oh God, Itachi said you needed Amaterasu and Tsukyomi to get Susano'o, how did that work out? That means Obito and Madara had all the paths as Jinchuuriki. Remember that time when Obito couldn't use Kamui as the Juubi Jin? Wait didn't Madara use Kamui as Juubi Jin though? Logic doesn't always work, how do you not get this?

Itachi said that about his MS. Sasuke said you need power of both MS to use Susano'o.
Wrong Obito couldn't make things phase threw him never was it said he couldn't warp like Madara did. All that logic still stands Rinnegan comes with the six paths techniques.

 

[Vapid]

Plenty of people believe Obito can't use all 6 paths technique, especially Deva Path because Obito didn't have both rinnegan. And Obito never used any Deva Path technique as well. Meaning you need both rinnegan to use all rinnegan techs.
I wonder why Obito never used a single Deva Path technique...

And rinnegan is inconsistent too; Kaguya, Madara and Sasuke all have their unique Rinnegan jutsu (dimension shift, limbo, teleportation)

That could be the case. I thought the official consensus was that Obito didn't use advanced Rinnegan techniques because he didn't want to blow his chakra away when he could still use his replenishable Kamui to fight instead.

And just because you have rinnegan does not mean you get every technique granted by it.

Let me lay it out for you:

Deva Path = manipulation of gravity and shit

1. Chibaku Tensei is a Deva Path technique.

2. Shinra Tensei is a Deva Path technique.

3. Sasuke used Chibaku Tensei, a Deva Path technique.

You do the math.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Itachi said that about his MS. Sasuke said you need power of both MS to use Susano'o.
Wrong Obito couldn't make things phase threw him never was it said he couldn't warp like Madara did. All that logic still stands Rinnegan comes with the six paths techniques.

No, he was referring to MS, nothing indicated it was only his MS.

 

[Erebus]

And just because you have rinnegan does not mean you get every technique granted by it.

I'm pretty sure it does, the rinne techs are the six paths, are from what we've seen so far, an original renningan user also has an extra ability, in Madara's case; Limbo and in sasuke case; S/T

Plenty of people believe Obito can't use all 6 paths technique, especially Deva Path because Obito didn't have both rinnegan. And Obito never used any Deva Path technique as well. Meaning you need both rinnegan to use all rinnegan techs.
I wonder why Obito never used a single Deva Path technique...

And rinnegan is inconsistent too; Kaguya, Madara and Sasuke all have their unique Rinnegan jutsu (dimension shift, limbo, teleportation)

Maybe he just couldn't, he afterall said that he didn't have the reserves(?) i can't remeber what he said, but it was when he was talking to Sakua in the kamui dimension, but he acknowledge that the owner: Madara would be able to bring out it's full potential

 

[VongolaX]

Well Obito had the rinnegan too and he couldn't use Deva Path. And If Sasuke has access to all rinne techs, what's the difference between tomoe rinnegan and standard rinnegan? Specially Sasuke has no feats which suggest he can use ST. While Nagato used ST using Madara's eyes, but Sasuke has a different eye than Madara (does he?)

Obito can use all of them, he just didn't because he had to control and transform the juubi and the shinjuu form.

 

[Sharingan King]

I would say yes.

Shinra tensei is like a form of gravity manipulation which he has been using. How else would he be able to levitate giant CTs and move them around with such ease?

[The Deva Path (天道, Tendō) grants the user the ability to manipulate attractive and repulsive forces with objects and people.]

He also has evidence of other paths like preta. He absorbed chakra from bijuus last chapter.

[The Preta Path (餓鬼道, Gakidō) grants the user the ability to absorb chakra in any form using the Blocking Technique Absorption Seal.]

He was able to touch Madara's black rods safely as well. This is evidence of the outer path.

[The Outer Path (外道, Gedō) is the seventh path, an ability granted to the wielder of the Rinnegan. With the Outer Path, the user is able to revive the dead, transmit chakra to receivers, as well as manifest chakra chains.]

I am certain Sasuke can use the other paths as well. However, they all take time to learn and master. Also, I doubt Kishi will let him use all paths in his fight with Naruto or else Naruto would get negged.

Madara's eyes allowed Nagato to use all paths. Yet Madara himself wasn't allowed to use all paths because he would have stomped the shinobi alliance.

 

[LuckyMan]

I'm pretty sure it does, the rinne techs are the six paths, are from what we've seen so far, an original renningan user also has an extra ability, in Madara's case; Limbo and in sasuke case; S/T

S/T is not an extra ability, its the ability the consists of the original 6. Tell me, where are Sasukes Water Earth and Wind Natures? The Rinnegan is suppose to give you all 5 elements right. If he can use one he can use all right?

 

[Draphsin]

He lived in a completely different era than Sasuke. While Sasuke was a child in an era of peace (for the most part l0l), Madara was raised in Hell.

Exactly, so advantage goes to madara who was raised on the battlefield.

And even then, 16-year-old Sasuke > 16-year-old Madara in intelligence.

Just because sasuke is more powerful than madara currently doesn't mean that he's more of a genius.