Can Sasuke dodge Frog Kumite?

[Punk Hazard]

Well enton is derived from Amaterasu, so when the basic element itself doesn't work then what makes you think enton would lol.

Apparently the "advanced" in "Enton is advanced usage in Amaterasu" means nothing.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Okay so? Itachi saw his chakra. Where did Itachi see pure Natural Energy? Where did Itachi see 100% Natural Energy with 0% chakra in it?

I dont think we've ever seen anyone with 100% Natural Energy 0_o

 

[Sasuke tyeezy]

If he can't see it, what makes you think he'll eventually start dodging it? Only someone like Gai sensei has that type of taijutsu awareness

Because Sasuke is no idiot. He constantly observes & devises counter measures.

 

[Ricardo]

Well enton is derived from Amaterasu, so when the basic element itself doesn't work then what makes you think enton would lol.

Naruto avoided amaterasu by simply creating a cloak within his arm. Amaterasu has shown that it can burn through chakra, Naruto discarted the cloak. Enton as you can see can be used via 360 with shape manipulation.

Enton > Amaterasu. Enton changes the manipulation of Amaterasu, Sasuke can create arrows and Swords with the black flames by changing the chakra shape of them. Basically it cuts like butter... Amaterasu is just a ball of flames, there's no manipulation on its shape/chakra.

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Even if Naruto makes a cloak, Enton will Pierce his body. He haves to dodge everything.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Naruto avoided amaterasu by simply creating a cloak within his arm. Amaterasu has shown that it can burn through chakra, Naruto discarted the cloak. Enton as you can see can be used via 360 with shape manipulation.

Enton > Amaterasu. Enton changes the manipulation of Amaterasu, Sasuke can create arrows and Swords with the black flames by changing the chakra shape of them. Basically it cuts like butter... Amaterasu is just a ball of flames, there's no manipulation on its shape/chakra.

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Even if Naruto makes a cloak, Enton will Pierce his body. He haves to dodge everything.

Well Naruto's chakra can take solid form too to punch or lift objects or to defend. Sasuke knew that and that's why didn't bother using enton on Naruto, so I don't think it'll work.
True Naruto probably would have to discard the cloak to avoid getting affected but not before he lands his frog kumite punches and he can always reproduce his cloak as long as he has chakra.

 

[Sasuke tyeezy]

Well Naruto's chakra can take solid form too to punch or lift objects or to defend. Sasuke knew that and that's why didn't bother using enton on Naruto, so I don't think it'll work.
True Naruto probably would have to discard the cloak to avoid getting affected but not before he lands his frog kumite punches and he can always reproduce his cloak as long as he has chakra.

He didn't use it because he was low on chakra. That's all.

 

[Detonator99]

Naruto avoided amaterasu by simply creating a cloak within his arm. Amaterasu has shown that it can burn through chakra, Naruto discarted the cloak. Enton as you can see can be used via 360 with shape manipulation.

Enton > Amaterasu. Enton changes the manipulation of Amaterasu, Sasuke can create arrows and Swords with the black flames by changing the chakra shape of them. Basically it cuts like butter... Amaterasu is just a ball of flames, there's no manipulation on its shape/chakra.

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Even if Naruto makes a cloak, Enton will Pierce his body. He haves to dodge everything.

But... naruto can avoid it by using frog kata the same way kabuto was able to react to amaterasu

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or the others attacks from sasuke

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Also what makes you soo shure that it will pierce narutos Rikudou chakra cloack there isnt feat that shows that naruto will get harmed by this level of attack when the guy was alredy shown to block sasuke's chidori (one of his strongest attacks with one arm.There is only showing of it injuring fodder juubis clones

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

He didn't use it because he was low on chakra. That's all.

Well he was low on chakra after firing Indra's arrow and not before. Naruto and Sasuke had a small taijutsu clash before they both went into their respective avatar modes.

 

[Ricardo]

Well Naruto's chakra can take solid form too to punch or lift objects or to defend. Sasuke knew that and that's why didn't bother using enton on Naruto, so I don't think it'll work.
True Naruto probably would have to discard the cloak to avoid getting affected but not before he lands his frog kumite punches and he can always reproduce his cloak as long as he has chakra.

If he uses chakra to block Enton, the chakra he used will just be burned aswell. Also, remember that Sasuke haves basically the same feat (Susano'o") which is chakra manifestation to block off attacks and he can use it while performing the same ability.

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I really don't think the fight will resort to Taijutsu. It's impossible for them to end the fight just with taijutsu. They will just counter eachother over and over. Only a full head on blast will end the fight as it's been shown in this series over and over again xd

 

[Retsu]

Rinnegan couldn't see it so I'd say no. No evidence suggests otherwise.

 

[Ricardo]

But... naruto can avoid it by using frog kata the same way kabuto was able to react to amaterasu

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or the others attacks from sasuke

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Also what makes you soo shure that it will pierce narutos Rikudou chakra cloack there isnt feat that shows that naruto will get harmed by this level of attack when the guy was alredy shown to block sasuke's chidori (one of his strongest attacks with one arm.There is only showing of it injuring fodder juubis clones

LOL, i'm basically answering with this thread's route. Yes, Naruto is able to react to Enton but that will counter Naruto's attempt at using Kumite in CQC . Just like Sasuke stopped Kabuto from charging full on head to head in that scenario... Like i said multiple times and no matter what you guys say, this fight is impossible to make something useful of high level taijutsu.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

If he uses chakra to block Enton, the chakra he used will just be burned aswell. Also, remember that Sasuke haves basically the same feat (Susano'o") which is chakra manifestation to block off attacks and he can use it while performing the same ability.

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I really don't think the fight will resort to Taijutsu. It's impossible for them to end the fight just with taijutsu. They will just counter eachother over and over. Only a full head on blast will end the fight as it's been shown in this series over and over again xd

Well I am not denying that Sasuke can block an attack using enton but that it's usage in such a manner restricts his own movements and Naruto can attack using frog kumite from multiple directions plus his enton doesn't become impenetrable as evident here..

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so if that's the case then Naruto can easily reach Sasuke and land a hit while in his cloak and then discard to avoid taking any damage.

 

[Detonator99]

LOL, i'm basically answering with this thread's route. Yes, Naruto is able to react to Enton but that will counter Naruto's attempt at using Kumite in CQC . Just like Sasuke stopped Kabuto from charging full on head to head in scenario... Like i said multiple times and no matter what you guys say, this fight is impossible to resort to high level taijutsu.

So all that you are saying is that they will never have CQC among the two? thats very unlikely... Sasuke wont be spaming amaterasu for ever.

 

[Ricardo]

Well I am not denying that Sasuke can block an attack using enton but that it's usage in such a manner restricts his own movements and Naruto can attack using frog kumite from multiple directions plus his enton doesn't become impenetrable as evident here..

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so if that's the case then Naruto can easily reach Sasuke and land a hit while in his cloak and then discard to avoid taking any damage.

Yeah but it's CQC we're talking about. Sasuke knows he's at disadvantage. Naruto's the body of the sage after all. He's physically stronger. Sasuke will just back down and take the fight to a new route. He's not going to sit there and take it. Every rinnegan user was vulnerable at cqc, that's a fact. Sasuke is the eyes of the sage, so his power comes from his eyes, not his body and the body clearly haves the advantage in taijutsu.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Yeah but it's CQC we're talking about. Sasuke knows he's at disadvantage. Naruto's the body of the sage after all. He's physically stronger. Sasuke will just back down and take the fight to a new route. He's not going to sit there and take it. Every rinnegan user was vulnerable at cqc, that's a fact. Sasuke is the eyes of the sage, so his power comes from his eyes, not his body and the body clearly haves the advantage in taijutsu.

Well Sasuke can't keep spamming techniques and in VoTE 2 if he didn't have the chakra of the 8.5 Bijuus to spam his techniques then he'd have had no choice but to resort to CQC and conserve chakra as much as possible. So in future scenarios he might be forced to resort to CQC and there he'd be at a definite disadvantage.
All in all as per the OT Sasuke won't be able to dodge the frog kumite.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I dont think we've ever seen anyone with 100% Natural Energy 0_o

That's what's released when Naruto does Frog Kata.

 

[Styles]

Other than the fact that Kabuto wasn't using NE yet

If I'm not mistaken, he didn't start using DSM until after that page you posted

Kabuto passively absorbs nature energy though because he have Juugo's cell's.

 

[LoZelda101]

yes. he has precog and speed.

 

[00Rinne]

If your not a sage & cant harness NE then i don't think any1 not just Sasuke can dodge FK. NE is not something the eyes of Uchiha can just see off the batt. Naruto had to go into SM to see the Juubi's power/NE.
The nerf was real for Naruto cause FK is something he should use is every battle cause no1 can sense or see it coming.

 

[Yata Mirror]

Pain with the Rinnegan couldn't see NE

Naruto says "then let's go with an attack that cannot be seen" and then proceeds to use Frog Kumite to completely wreck that Pain..
Frog Kata uses NE which unlike chakra is pure energy that cannot be seen, only felt by Sages..

One may argue that the Rinnegan allows you to see things clearly but the manga has proven that even the Sage's eyes have their limits, like when Pain couldn't see Frog Kata or when Sasuke couldn't decipher the scroll from Kaguya's dimensions