Can Sasuke be beaten without Taijutsu?

[Gerkak]

yep. its called plot. But we in NB like to imagine a perfect NarutoVerse, free of all plot shields and TNJs.

Plot was what gave naruto and sasuke their rikudo powers. If you like to imagine a plot shield free NV, then both would be dead and this topic would be meaningless.

It shows that certain attacks do get past chakra absorbtion. If they contain special chakra​

 

[-immortal-]

Falling Mountains aren't.

Chidori gmGG :bdpf:

 

[Gerkak]

yep. its called plot. But we in NB like to imagine a perfect NarutoVerse, free of all plot shields and TNJs.

Naruto and sasuke got their powers due to plot. If you like to imagine a plot shield free NV, then both naruto and sasuke would be dead and this topic will have no meaning.

No one is immune to anything, this is a recurring thing in the NV. People used to think the sharingan could defeat all genjutsu until kabuto proved otherwise.

 

[Gagster]

Rinnegan users can absorb ninjutsu, remember? He's effectively immune.

Lel, he absorbs food cart Destroyer, how?

 

[CrazyTheorist]

Lel, he absorbs food cart Destroyer, how?

Thats a summon, not Ninjutsu. And he'd just use allmightly push to toss it on the neighboring country.

 

[Gagster]

Thats a summon, not Ninjutsu. And he'd just use allmightly push to toss it on the neighboring country.

How would he use Pain's jutsu? Besides that there are jutsu that can't be absorbed.

 

[Reboryushon]

How would he use Pain's jutsu? Besides that there are jutsu that can't be absorbed.

Deva path. Chibaku Tensei comes from it and we know it is a rinnegan ability..

 

[adeshina365]

Nope. Hence why Sasuke = GOAT.

The ability for simultaneous I/O of chakra is game changing.

 

[Stormblast]

You can use whatever you want in your fanni, but that shit doesn't fly in the NV. He gets toasted by every sect of combat depending on the user.

 

[ninjarasengan]

It's been shown that multiple paths can be used at once...but was it ever shown that the path that absorbs chakra is compatible with Susanoo?

What about exceeding chakra limits...sure Sasuke absorbed a large amount of Bijuu chakra into his Susanoo...But if Chakra absorption isn't compatible with Susanoo, how much could he contain in his body before he starts to balloon.

 

[EZQ]

Kakashi warps him away with kamui

 

[irishboy9780]

Lol hes not immune to genjutsu. Rinnegan doesn't make u immune to genjutsu go back and read jiraya vs pain.....

 

[Chaosmark101]

I think we may have a bit of a unstoppable force vs Immovable object situation. Sasuke can't beat Naruto with his offensive techniques, Naruto's ninjutsu is useless against the Rinnegan and if he got close enough to Sasuke for Taijutsu, Sasuke could suck him dry like Madara did to Hashirama (proving an experienced Rinnegan user can control senjutsu) or use almighty push.

Bold is fanfic, Sasuke still isn't confirmed a sage & thus will still be putting himself to risk absorbing any Senjutsu attacks, or NE.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Only people at Guy's Taijutsu can beat Sasuke? Naruto enters RSM and his sensing ability meets and exeeds Juubi Jin Madara which alongside his enhanced SM which increases his physical attributes including Taijutsu he would freaking wreak Sasuke with his experience from Nagato's fight and his strategies at fighting the path's he faced. This is just

 

[CrazyTheorist]

Bold is fanfic, Sasuke still isn't confirmed a sage & thus will still be putting himself to risk absorbing any Senjutsu attacks, or NE.

Madara isn't a sage either and he stole Hashiramas senjutsu just fine using his Rinnegan abilities. Logically, Sasuke, as another experienced weilder of the Rinnegan, could absorb Senjutsu chakra without ill effects. Nagato used the Rinnegan, but it wasn't his and he was using a corpse body.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Madara isn't a sage either and he stole Hashiramas senjutsu just fine using his Rinnegan abilities. Logically, Sasuke, as another experienced weilder of the Rinnegan, could absorb Senjutsu chakra without ill effects. Nagato used the Rinnegan, but it wasn't his and he was using a corpse body.

Again. You realize Madara stole Hashirama's Sage Chakra? EG the finished product? Which is chakra balanced with Natural Energy?

If Sasuke was to absorb Raw NE, he'd need to know how to balance it with his chakra so he doesn't become petrified. It's that simple.

 

[CrazyTheorist]

Again. You realize Madara stole Hashirama's Sage Chakra? EG the finished product? Which is chakra balanced with Natural Energy?

If Sasuke was to absorb Raw NE, he'd need to know how to balance it with his chakra so he doesn't become petrified. It's that simple.

Isn't assessing chakra sort of what the Sharingan is known for? And in a situation where Naruto was attacking head on, I doubt he would be drawing in and balancing nature chakra at the same time? Plus, Kirin is created using Natural energy, so Sasuke has some experience handling the stuff.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Isn't assessing chakra sort of what the Sharingan is known for? And in a situation where Naruto was attacking head on, I doubt he would be drawing in and balancing nature chakra at the same time? Plus, Kirin is created using Natural energy, so Sasuke has some experience handling the stuff.

Where did you get the first part from? (Underline) It's true that the Sharingan can copy Ninjutsu,genjutsu, & Taijutsu along with cast illusions, predict someones next move, & see chakra along with izanagi & izanami. But NE is invisible. It can't be seen even The Rinnegan which the sharingan hailed from couldn't see NE. (Frog Kata scene)

Also Kirin isn't made from NE. It's Natural Lightning which Sasuke uses Raiton & Yin Release to shape it into a dragon I believe.

fyi I got lazy while getting the scans. 2G data sucks...

 

[CrazyTheorist]

Where did you get the first part from? (Underline) It's true that the Sharingan can copy Ninjutsu,genjutsu, & Taijutsu along with cast illusions, predict someones next move, & see chakra along with izanagi & izanami. But NE is invisible. It can't be seen even The Rinnegan which the sharingan hailed from couldn't see NE. (Frog Kata scene)

Also Kirin isn't made from NE. It's Natural Lightning which Sasuke uses Raiton & Yin Release to shape it into a dragon I believe.

fyi I got lazy while getting the scans. 2G data sucks...

Its mentioned in the fight between Itachi and Sasuke that it can asses chakra, its part of how copying techniques is accomplished by observing the targets chakra changes as well as their hand signs. And Nagato had Rinnegan then, and he couldn't use Sharingan abilities despite it's being developed from the Sharingan. It's never explicitly said that the Sharingan itself can't see NE. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the energy in Kabuto's cave part of the reason Itachi and Sasuke had trouble telling him apart from his surroundings?

And, while we're at it, isn't Sasuke's curse mark senjutsu? He learned how to control that.

Look clearly we're not going to agree on this. Let's just agree that it's not clear whether or not Sasuke can absorb NE or Senjutsu.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Its mentioned in the fight between Itachi and Sasuke that it can asses chakra, its part of how copying techniques is accomplished by observing the targets chakra changes as well as their hand signs. And Nagato had Rinnegan then, and he couldn't use Sharingan abilities despite it's being developed from the Sharingan. It's never explicitly said that the Sharingan itself can't see NE. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the energy in Kabuto's cave part of the reason Itachi and Sasuke had trouble telling him apart from his surroundings?

Oh no the reason why the cave was ****ing with them was because Kabuto had a jutsu called inorganic reanimation.
Which allowed him to manipulate his surroundings at will.
So the floor, ceiling, stalagmites walls etc. Also

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And, while we're at it, isn't Sasuke's curse mark senjutsu? He learned how to control that.

But once again the curse mark works by feeding off the users chakra and giving them Oro's senjutsu chakra (because they get the finished product they undergo visible transformations not unlike sage mode. The curse seal is like a pseudo sage mode (not on par with Perfect sage ofc) since all they get is the power boost and durability boost, but they miss out on sensing and absorbing NE. The curse seal was made from Juugo's cells since his KKG was constantly absorbing NE, than enzymes in his body make him undergo

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Look clearly we're not going to agree on this. Let's just agree that it's not clear whether or not Sasuke can absorb NE or Senjutsu.

I'm not saying he can't absorb Senjutsu attacks with Preta path. It's clearly possible since Nagato Pain did it. Just that repeated absorption puts him at risk of turning to stone from absorbing too much.

Also that he can't you know absorb NE on his own like
Naruto, Kabuto, Hashirama, Minato etc