Can Sasuke and Madara use Izanagi spam like the un-nerfed UChihas?

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Sasuke and Madara with the sages power should be able to use Izanagi spam like the unnerfed Uchiha from their ancestory.



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With the sages power the Izanagi should be given a boost making it last longer and have shorter cool down times like Danzo.
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Too OP.
 

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Unlike the other people on this thread. To give you a serious answer. It's no, they won't and can't spam it. The consequence of using Izanagi is losing eyesight, and consequently can only be used by the sharingan this Madara cannot use it, even edos aren't immune as shown with itachi using Izanami. While edo Madara switched between rinnegan and sharingan keep in mind ue was using inauthentic eyes and his real rinnegan cannot do that not that he needs his sharingan since he can still use susano. Sasuke can't spam it because he'd lose his eyesight. There's no exceptions listed in Izanami or Izanagi. Now if a clone used izabagi or izabami would the blindness go back to the owner? But that's an entirely different discussion and/or possibility.
 
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Unlike the other people on this thread. To give you a serious answer. It's no, they won't and can't spam it. The consequence of using Izanagi is losing eyesight, and consequently can only be used by the sharingan this Madara cannot use it, even edos aren't immune as shown with itachi using Izanami. While edo Madara switched between rinnegan and sharingan keep in mind ue was using inauthentic eyes and his real rinnegan cannot do that not that he needs his sharingan since he can still use susano. Sasuke can't spam it because he'd lose his eyesight. There's no exceptions listed in Izanami or Izanagi. Now if a clone used izabagi or izabami would the blindness go back to the owner? But that's an entirely different discussion and/or possibility.
100% agree. There are limits to what they can do even with that chakra multiplier.
 

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They'll just end up like Tobi.
Uchihas could t spam Izanagi when ever they wanted, they needed other requirements first otherwise Danzo wouldn't need hashi's tissue to use it and Kakashi could've been able to do it himself. Sage power individuals will get one chance with the durability being up to what their chakra can hold. That's it.
 

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No they cannot spam Izanagi it will seal their eye.

Izanagi is a knock off of Creation of All Things with only the Yin concept not the yang. Putting strain entirely on the eye.

Izanagi is used with the EYES. Creation of all things is used with the SUN&MOON SEALS. Its complete. Izanagi is not.
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No they cannot spam Izanagi it will seal their eye.

Izanagi is a knock off of Creation of All Things with only the Yin concept not the yang. Putting strain entirely on the eye.

Izanagi is used with the EYES. Creation of all things is used with the SUN&MOON SEALS. Its complete. Izanagi is not.
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You just ignored the obvious, Izanagi is the Sage's ability and they have the Sage's eyes. Sasuke can use it but not spam it, he will just temporarily lose his eye powers like he did when travelling to Kaguya's dimensions
 

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You just ignored the obvious, Izanagi is the Sage's ability and they have the Sage's eyes. Sasuke can use it but not spam it, he will just temporarily lose his eye powers like he did when travelling to Kaguya's dimensions
No you ignoring the fact that the sages Yin and Yang powers are in the SEALS not his eyes.

Izanagi was created by Uchiha. Creation of all Things is the Sages exclusive technique.
 

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No you ignoring the fact that the sages Yin and Yang powers are in the SEALS not his eyes.

Izanagi was created by Uchiha. Creation of all Things is the Sages exclusive technique.
And you just ignored that Sharingan don't have magical seals like most of you assume, Itachi was being metaphorical not literal. Eyes lose their eyesight because they perform a feat meant to be used with Sage's power, it has nothing to do with a seal in their brain.

Sage chakra restored eyesight in Madara's eyes which just proved they the effects are not permanent. Izanagi was created by Uchiha but derived form Hagoromo's ability to use Yin-Yang which all Rinnegan users have. Sasuke has Hagoromo's power therefore can use a genjutsu that was meant to be used by someone with his eye power.
 
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And you just ignored that Sharingan don't have magical seals like most of you assume, Itachi was being metaphorical not literal. Eyes lose their blindness because they perform a feat meant to be used with Sage's power.

There's no such thing as seals because Sage chakra restored eyesight in Madara's eyes. Izanagi was created by Uchiha but derived form Hagoromo's ability to use Yin-Yang which all Rinnegan users have. Sasuke has Hagoromo's power therefore can use a genjutsu that was ean to be used by someone with his eyes.
You make no sense. Log out. Hagoromos yin/yang elemental chakra is used by his Sun/Moon seals. If you cant accept that than you just a fap I mean fanboi
 

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You cannot use Izanagi in an eye more than once. Thats why Madara nor Sasuke used it despite being on the verge of losing or death. Whether Rinnegan or Sharingan.

Izanagi is an Uchiha tech derived from the Sages original Creation of All Things jutsu which utilizes the height of his Yin/Yang elemental powers. His Yin/Yang powers are in his sun/moon seals. Naruto demonstrated this three times with his sun seal. And Sasuke's Six Paths chakra is actually in his moon seal.

This is truth stop spreading lies on the Base.
 

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You make no sense. Log out. Hagoromos yin/yang elemental chakra is used by his Sun/Moon seals. If you cant accept that than you just a fap I mean fanboi
Man your logic is retarded, first of all sealing techs aren't passed down genetically so stop spouting that nonsense, secondly, nowhere did the Uchiha ever mention Yin and Yang seals being involved.

Eyes aren't automatically sealed, they lose their eyesight because Uchiha don't have the Yang to use their power, Itachi said the same thing about MS as he did about Izanagi, did Sasuke lose his MS permanently ? No, he got his eyesight through EMS.

Same logic applies for Izanagi, Uchiha dont have the power to use a Sage-level feat with EMS just like they don't have the power to use Indra-level feat with normal MS.

Obito clrearly said Izanagi comes from Hagoromo's ability to use Yin and Yang, manga already said Rinnegan users are able to use Yin-Yang release, Sasuke meets the requirements to use Izanagi with no side effects just like EMS meets the requirements to use MS abilities without loss of eyesight.
 

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Man your logic is retarded, first of all sealing techs aren't passed down genetically so stop spouting that nonsense, secondly, nowhere did the Uchiha ever mention Yin and Yang seals being involved.

Eyes aren't automatically sealed, they lose their eyesight because Uchiha don't have the Yang to use their power, Itachi said the same thing about MS as he did about Izanagi, did Sasuke lose his MS permanently ? No, he got his eyesight through EMS.

Same logic applies for Izanagi, Uchiha dont have the power to use a Sage-level feat with EMS just like they don't have the power to use Indra-level feat with normal MS.

Obito clrearly said Izanagi comes from Hagoromo's ability to use Yin and Yang, manga already said Rinnegan users are able to use Yin-Yang release, Sasuke meets the requirements to use Izanagi with no side effects just like EMS meets the requirements to use MS abilities without loss of eyesight.
Who the hell said sealing techniques. The Uchihas dont have the power of the sage so they created a bootleg versian with Izanagi. Sealing their eyes. COAT is used with Hagos Sun/Moon seals on his hands.

All this proves is unlocking new eye restores eyesight. WHICH EVERYBODY EFFING KNEW.


Dude just stop. And if you forgot Naruto has the sages body not Sasuke so hes missing that as well.

Guess what Madara didnt have. You guessed it. The Sun/Moon seals.

Creation of All Things is Ninjutsu not doujutsu.
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All Hashirama cells did for Danzo was let him use 11 Sharingan at the same time, and reduced his KotoAmatsukami cooldown.

You still can only use Izanagi once per eye even with Hashirama cells. Even with EMS.
 

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All Hashirama cells did for Danzo was let him use 11 Sharingan at the same time, and reduced his KotoAmatsukami cooldown.

You still can only use Izanagi once per eye even with Hashirama cells. Even with EMS.
Hashi cells unable danzo to use izanagi, the fact that he couldn't control the kekkai genkai just made him use an incomplete version.
 
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