Can Sakura damage Kakashi's susanoo?

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lol nope no way in hell

 

[Black Wolf]

And I proved with scans Madara already fixed his Susanoo after each attack and you ignored it.

I am not ignoring scans; Suitons do not "pierce" (barring Tobirama's). They do not "scar" the target. They are blunt force attacks, and for that you do not know the state the Susano'o was in following the water dragon.

It does not need to be visibly scratched to have sustained damage. Zabuza wasn't scratched, and despite that, he was still incapacitated.

You clearly hate her so you are ignoring her feats.

Again, your inability to sustain an objective stance in a debate is hilarious. It shows how weak your foundation is when all you can do is resort to generic fanboy accusations. Suit yourself, though - it seems like it's all your good at doing.

Zabuza isn't as durable as Madara's Susanoo.

I never said he was; what I said was that Zabuza wasn't immediately attacked a few seconds after being hit with the Suiton.

 

[TheEvilOne]

I am not ignoring scans; Suitons do not "pierce" (barring Tobirama's). They do not "scar" the target. They are blunt force attacks, and for that you do not know the state the Susano'o was in following the water dragon.



Again, your inability to sustain an objective stance in a debate is hilarious. It shows how weak your foundation is when all you can do is resort to generic fanboy accusations. Suit yourself, though - it seems like it's all your good at doing.



I never said he was; what I said was that Zabuza wasn't immediately attacked a few seconds after being hit with the Suiton.

1. Completely irrelevant. A human survived a similar suiton with no visible damage and I already posted a scan where Madara's Susanoo isn't damaged at all. Not to mention Mei never hit Madara's Susanoo with her suiton, she only hit his body. The Susanoo isn't even formed [

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] This is visible even on the next scan, as well as the repaired Susanoo [

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] I don't even know from where you got the idea Mei damaging his Susanoo.
2. Doesn't matter, you don't like her, therefore you are ignoring her feats.

 

[Black Wolf]

1. Completely irrelevant. A human survived a similar suiton with no visible damage and I already posted a scan where Madara's Susanoo isn't damaged at all.

Suitons do not cause any visible damage; they are the equivalent of being slammed. Zabuza survived, but was incapacitated, and was in no state to continue the battle. Madara's Susano'o was attacked several times in the span of several seconds versus Zabuza's extensive recovery period.

Not to mention Mei never hit Madara's Susanoo with her suiton, she only hit his body. The Susanoo isn't even formed [

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I have no idea what you're even saying here. You say Madara's Susano'o wasn't hit by the Suiton, and then show me a scan of the dragon's mouth literally all over Madara's Susano'o. What you are saying and what you are linking are contradicting each other.

This is visible even on the next scan, as well as the repaired Susanoo [

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] I don't even know from where you got the idea Mei damaging his Susanoo.

You are making me repeat myself. Suitons can inflict damage without it being visible; they are the equivalent of being slammed. Zabuza was incapacitated and unable to fight, despite his body not having any scratches from the Suiton. He was still able to fight with no arms and several swords in his gut, yet was unable to fight after that Suiton slammed into him.

Suitons do not inflict visible, external damage to the body like most techniques do. That does not mean they did not inflict damage, as the instance with Zabuza has demonstrated.

2. Doesn't matter, you don't like her, therefore you are ignoring her feats.

I don't like her, but I don't dislike her either. She is a side character that I have a neutral stance about, just like most characters in the manga. Only characters I really like are Orochimaru, Onoki, Killer Bee, and Gaara and the only characters I don't like (that immediately come to mind) are Kaguya and the Raikage.

Again, learn to keep your garbage accusations out of objective debates. Even if I did dislike Tsunade, which I don't, I am not referencing that in this debate. You continue to cite irrelevancies like me "disliking Tsunade" which has nothing to do with this debate in which we are discussing facts.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Okay, I'll explain once more.

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First scan: The Susanoo wasn't even formed because

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with her previous attack. Mei directly hit Madara ( and the other half of his Susanoo ) and sent him flying
Second scan: The same as before. The Susanoo is still not reformed
Third scan: Madara noticed Tsunade coming and quickly repaired his Susanoo. Before this scan there was no Susanoo for Mei to hit. Tsunade shitted on a 'brand new' Susanoo. There was no Susanoo before, therefore Mei never attacked it. PERIOD. ​

 

[FemmeFatale]

Maybe, he isn't even Uchiha, it shouldn't be that hard to destabilize, and his stamina could be close to zero

 

[Black Wolf]

Okay, I'll explain once more.

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Yeah, I still have no idea what you're trying to say. The picture on the top left shows the entirety of Madara's Susano'o inside the mouth of the water dragon.

First scan: The Susanoo wasn't even formed because

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with her previous attack.

She never shattered it, she just cracked the frontal layer. It was still very clearly intact.

Mei directly hit Madara ( and the other half of his Susanoo ) and sent him flying

Not seeing where you're getting this idea that its half a Susano'o in that scan. We are being shown a side view of the attack.

Second scan: The same as before. The Susanoo is still not reformed

Again, putting red boxes around pictures that I could already see clearly before isn't making anything clearer. I see a picture of Madara's ribcage Susano'o flying back after having been wholly impacted by the Suiton dragon.

Third scan: Madara noticed Tsunade coming and quickly repaired his Susanoo. Before this scan there was no Susanoo for Mei to hit. Tsunade shitted on a 'brand new' Susanoo. There was no Susanoo before, therefore Mei never attacked it. PERIOD.

Where do you get this idea that he "quickly repaired his Susano'o" and it wasn't the same rib-cage throughout the entire assault? Granted, the cracks that Tsunade put in the front were gone, but that didn't require it to be "reformed." I have no idea where you keep getting this idea that there was only "half a Susano'o" in that scan either.​

 

[TheEvilOne]

Yeah, I still have no idea what you're trying to say. The picture on the top left shows the entirety of Madara's Susano'o inside the mouth of the water dragon.



She never shattered it, she just cracked the frontal layer. It was still very clearly intact.



Not seeing where you're getting this idea that its half a Susano'o in that scan. We are being shown a side view of the attack.



Again, putting red boxes around pictures that I could already see clearly before isn't making anything clearer. I see a picture of Madara's ribcage Susano'o flying back after having been wholly impacted by the Suiton dragon.



Where do you get this idea that he "quickly repaired his Susano'o" and it wasn't the same rib-cage throughout the entire assault? Granted, the cracks that Tsunade put in the front were gone, but that didn't require it to be "reformed." I have no idea where you keep getting this idea that there was only "half a Susano'o" in that scan either.

I just realized you were trolling, I'll just stop here.

half of the Susanoo was missing because Tsunade

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. Mei's Suiton did nothing to THIS SIDE OF THE SUSANOO BECAUSE IT WASN'T EVEN FORMED.

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[RedRobin]

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She chopped a susano sword in half.

 

[TheEvilOne]

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She chopped a susano sword in half.

Wait 'till Black Wolf explains Madara was trolling with her, therefore he intentionnaly weakened the Susanoo sword.

 

[KidGamer65]

She can do heavy damage to a Ribcage Susanoo, but that's as far as it goes.

 

[TheEvilOne]

She can do heavy damage to a Ribcage Susanoo, but that's as far as it goes.

By feats her punches are at least 10 times stronger than Tsunade's. She can crack the V2, there is no doubt about it.

 

[KidGamer65]

By feats her punches are at least 10 times stronger than Tsunade's. She can crack the V2, there is no doubt about it.

Uh, no, they aren't. Hashirama stated that it might be even stronger than Tsunade's (And don't start with the kid stuff, unless you want to try and get me to argue Kid Tsunade<=Sakura in DC). "Might" wouldn't have been included if her punches were 10 times stronger.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Uh, no, they aren't. Hashirama stated that it might be even stronger than Tsunade's (And don't start with the kid stuff, unless you want to try and get me to argue Kid Tsunade<=Sakura in DC). "Might" wouldn't have been included if her punches were 10 times stronger.

Probably Hashirama was talking about prime Tsunade. This is Tsunade's

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, her punches are weaker, but superior to the Raikage's.

Tsunade's kick/punch is nowhere near

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[ministerC4]

I think she could, seeing as to how Tsunade crushed Madara's susanoo, and she was fodder compared to him.


Sakura may have "just broke the horn" but that's an amazing feat giving the fact Kaguya has been tanking Sage-power-up Naruto's physical attacks(Which we know are OP).

Keep in mind that the person this horn belongs to is the person who made someone with PS(Madara) scream like a b*tch..

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Kaguya made him scream like a b*tch when he had all that power ^^
This base really underrates her.

 

[KidGamer65]

Probably Hashirama was talking about prime Tsunade. This is Tsunade's

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, her punches are weaker, but superior to the Raikage's.

Tsunade's kick/punch is nowhere near

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Isn't now the strongest Tsunade has ever been? Pretty sure it was said that Kabuto>Prime Tsunade, so its either Kabuto w/o DNA transplants>Byakugo Tsunade or Current Tsunade>Prime Tsunade, and btw, Prime doesn't necessarily mean strongest point.

Using Part 1 feats doesn't really help you since everything was scaled differently back then. Fodders spit out stronger Suiton then Tobirama, and despite being in a weakened state, the Anbu considered him Hokage level.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Isn't now the strongest Tsunade has ever been? Pretty sure it was said that Kabuto>Prime Tsunade, so its either Kabuto w/o DNA transplants>Byakugo Tsunade or Current Tsunade>Prime Tsunade, and btw, Prime doesn't necessarily mean strongest point.

Using Part 1 feats doesn't really help you since everything was scaled differently back then. Fodders spit out stronger Suiton then Tobirama, and despite being in a weakened state, the Anbu considered him Hokage level.

Nah, only in using the chakra scalpels more precisely. I'll find the ViZ scan if you insist.

Hmm, but I guess you have a point. We haven't seen part2 Tsunade punching the ground, I guess that's what confused me.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I thought this thread was about if Sakura can damage Perfect Susanoo?Apparently it became about Tsunade for some reason.

 

[shelke]

Isn't now the strongest Tsunade has ever been? Pretty sure it was said that Kabuto>Prime Tsunade, so its either Kabuto w/o DNA transplants>Byakugo Tsunade or Current Tsunade>Prime Tsunade, and btw, Prime doesn't necessarily mean strongest point.

Using Part 1 feats doesn't really help you since everything was scaled differently back then. Fodders spit out stronger Suiton then Tobirama, and despite being in a weakened state, the Anbu considered him Hokage level.

Only as a medic nin.

 

[SuperChief]

She should be able to put a crack in it if she broke Kaguya's horn.