Can Poison Work On Madara?

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Hello fellow NB members, I was looking at old scans and I came up upon this interesting image so I decided to post it to you guys and pose a question in the end. The first thing that bothers me is that no one has attempted to use poison against Madara. Everyone seems to be convinced that only taijutsu and senjutsu can work on him, because I am sure if Madara being the Juubi jinchuuriki makes him still retain organs that are same as any other humans then poison should work on him too :hint:. Now which poison is perfect to use on Madara? yeah you should have guessed by now. There much of an easier way to defeat the ones that use mokuton, and I am sure that this can work on everyone that has Hashirama's cells (not entirely sure but it should work since it did on Yamato). Yes the Poison kabuto used here:

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Yamato here on the following page explicitly says that he can't do anything... meaning this poison doesn't just nullify the ability to use mokuton since mokutpon users can use it from any part of their bodies..
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So since they can't do mokuton which is considered as ninjutsu then its safe to assume that if this poison is used Yamato's ability to use any nijutsu was momentarily taken away from him.

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Yes.. using the poison that Kabuto and Orochimaru discovered that binds the ones that use mokuton. Now if someone were to to be cut, inject or stab Madara with a kunai having this poison the battle would have made him immobile, unable to use any ninjutsu or even senjutsu. So now I have 2 questions for you guys...

1. Can Poison work on someone like Madara? Since we already know that on Orichimaru, Sasuke and Kabuto normal poison cannot work on them since they developed anti-bodies for it. Madara must not have this since Orochimaru developed it after Madara was dead.

2. If so.. why haven't Kishi made Orochimaru or Kabuto use this poison? Even maybe someone who is a poison specialist like Kankurou?
 
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I made a thread like a long time ago too XD
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Does this poison only effect Mokuton or Senju DNA itself? I think it's Senju DNA as Kabuto says he won't use it on the Zetsus who don't use Mokuton if I remember correctly. But they do have Senju DNA which is why Kabuto tells Tobi he won't use it on them.

My point is, Orochimaru is on the battlefield right now. He certainly took his time getting to the battlefield before when he first showed up. Could he have gotten the Senju DNA poison? He had Kabuto's intel as he knew about the war and about the 6 Zetsus on Sasuke. With this poison, it doesn't matter how strong Madara will get, without the Senju DNA, he will just be EMS Madara, and alive EMS Madara alone can't handle the power of the SA alone, it'll be too much.

This would also let Orochimaru eliminate all threats in the way of his personal goals so he would have an incentive to do so. I think it's possible with Oro on the scene, what do you guys think?
Though this was before he became the Juubi jin so I'm unsure. Poison seems like it would be a way to kill anyone. But I would not be surprised if the Juubi jinchuuriki would somehow be able to bypass poison.
 

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I like your theory, however Madara currently is the SO6P and therefore I don't think he has the same immunity as regular humans. Madara is on another level and the reason why Kishi won't kill him with poison from Oro or Kabuto (possibly) is because of the plot. xD
 

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Too long, didn't read. But, assuming the title merits the same answer as the question, and not just an opinion on your research, yes. Nobody is ammune to poison unless they have the antidote. However, some poisons can be slept or fought off, depending how strong the body of the victim is. If they take madara down with poison, it'll have to be able to kill a whale (egxaturration)
 

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Nice Thread. :D

Thanks buddy... ;)


I made a thread like a long time ago too XD
Though this was before he became the Juubi jin so I'm unsure. Poison seems like it would be a way to kill anyone. But I would not be surprised if the Juubi jinchuuriki would somehow be able to bypass poison.

Well I never saw it and I think mine is a little different from yours... mine was made after more chapters were released :win:
 

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Well I never saw it and I think mine is a little different from yours... mine was made after more chapters were released :win:
Nah, yours is definitely different from mine. But I think Madara would find his way around the poison, maybe by extracting it from his body somehow. Madara really seems to be above logic itself lately Lol
 

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I am going to address your both questions, Hori.
1. Can Poison work on someone like Madara? Since we already know that on Orichimaru, Sasuke and Kabuto normal poison cannot work on them since they developed anti-bodies for it. Madara must not have this since Orochimaru developed it after Madara was dead.
Poison won't work on Madara at this moment since he is Juubi jin. If Naruto can be healed due to Kurama's power, why can't Juubi jin be healed?:|
2. If so.. why haven't Kishi made Orochimaru or Kabuto use this poison? Even maybe someone who is a poison specialist like Kankurou?
On top of that this poison is supposed to block only 'wood release' and not senjutsu or any other power. Madara has Rinnegan+EMS+Sage mode her absorbed from Hashirama, so no that thing is useless against him.
 

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good thread...pointing some facts as usual.........

1)the poison may definetely restrain madara from using wood elements.....................but at the same time can't be sure because he has hashirama's healing powers.......they may produce antibodies against them

2)it is just for the plotsake.........may be who knows kabuto may inject that poison in to the madara........
 

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Remember that kabuto modified his body, maybe he made him immune to poison.

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Edo-tensei bodies don't have living organs... and since poison attacks living organs only and to be able to put something like an antibody don't you think it requires a body that is alive? I admit its still a mystrie on how Kabuto put the face in Madara's chest which means kabuto will have a huge role to fullfill when they take that face out.. since he was the who putted it, so he shuld know how to remove it...
 

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I don't think it would work, since the snakes must be injecting poison in a certain amount of time to keep him immobilized while a Kunia wouldn't do. Plus Yamato is a watered down copy of Hashirama, Madara isn't simply a wood jutsu user, he uses fire as well and his physical strength is out of Yamato's league. It's safe to say Madara must have come across poisons in his time of constant war. No one we know who uses poisons would even be able to hit Madara with any attack since his Sharingan and speed are too great, maybe if the top ninjas used them then maybe and that's for EMS Madara.

We don't even know if that poison would work on Hashirama when edo tensei couldn't even keep him down, Senjus have the sage's body after all and he can heal himself without hand signs. Also being immune to poisons wasn't only Orochimaru's thing, any one can become immune to poison, take a water down dose of the poison over time as you make the poison slowly more. Same thing happened in One piece when Luffy got poison but it didn't affect him since it was weaker than when he got poisoned at the jail house.
 

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Edo-tensei bodies don't have living organs... and since poison attacks living organs only and to be able to put something like an antibody don't you think it requires a body that is alive? I admit its still a mystrie on how Kabuto put the face in Madara's chest which means kabuto will have a huge role to fullfill when they take that face out.. since he was the who putted it, so he shuld know how to remove it...
Still a mystery.
 

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I am going to address your both questions, Hori.
Poison won't work on Madara at this moment since he is Juubi jin. If Naruto can be healed due to Kurama's power, why can't Juubi jin be healed?:|
1. For starters Naruto was healed by Kurama's chakra whenever he received physical damage, examples include when he fought Neji and had his tekketsu sealed by the gentle fist Kurama was able to heal that. However when he was cut by Sasuke when he tried to save Sakura he was affected by the poison. Actually to automatically heal can be a hindrance when being poisoned.. simply because it would be hard to extract poison from a healing body.


On top of that this poison is supposed to block only 'wood release' and not senjutsu or any other power. Madara has Rinnegan+EMS+Sage mode her absorbed from Hashirama, so no that thing is useless against him.

2. Well this proves you didn't read all of my thread. Because if you did you would know that what the poison does is to eliminate the abilty to use ninjutsu. Because Yamato cannot only use wood style he has water and earth style jutsus... but because of the poison he was unable to use any... seems like the poison is similar to the one Tsunade used on Jiraiya. Reduces the ability to mold chakra U_U
 

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i made a thread similar saying current kabuto has a shot at taking out hashirama because of that poison. its apparent that kabuto still has some of orochimaru's chakra to use the snake
 

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Edo-tensei bodies don't have living organs... and since poison attacks living organs only and to be able to put something like an antibody don't you think it requires a body that is alive? I admit its still a mystrie on how Kabuto put the face in Madara's chest which means kabuto will have a huge role to fullfill when they take that face out.. since he was the who putted it, so he shuld know how to remove it...
kabuto isn't the one who put hashirama's face on madara chest

remember madara got stabbed by hashirama through his chest.....and somehow he gained his portion of cells and implemented it in that area

look the scans below......

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and the way he got that face on his chest ,may be mysterious spiral zetsu helped him............
 
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