Can Pain defeat Madara from 624 Aiko

[Dragon1]

Of course. Pain can probably beat EMS Madara in his fight against Hashirama let alone an inexperienced Madara.

 

[lanakui8]

Deva path alone would kill everyone on that battlefield with CT.

Madara with his muscular susanoo is below MS Sasuke-level at that point.

 

[KidGamer65]

While its using that super range on the dogs(it will have to do something, or the dogs will simply keep attacking whether fruitless or not, and they'll shield Nagato if Madara tries to go for him, and they won't get hurt since they just grow more heads) and on Gedo Mazo, Nagato simply needs get close and touch it. If it actually manages to finish all Nagato's summons before Nagato gets close, then Nagato will repel the sword before it slashes him then get to the Susanoo, touch it, and eat it.

You make no sense. Its Area of Effect is large enough to hit EVERYTHING AT ONCE. He doesn't need to focus on one target. Once they've been slashed enough they will become so small that they are useless in defense and offense. Besides, their attacks are useless against PS so whether they are ignored or destroyed it doesn't matter. Nagato isn't getting close period. The Five Kage were tossed backward by a slash that wasn't even aimed directly at them, Gedo Mazo's feats make it useless against PS and Nagato can repel one slash with ST but he can't repel the other one due to the 5 second interval.

It was the Perfect Susanoo+Kyubi that tanked it. In the next page, the smoke was clearing on the PS+Kyubi. It wasn't PS alone that tanked it. Hashirama didn't expect Madara to survive until he saw that he combined his Susanoo with Kyubi.

PS is armor for the Kyuubi. Kyuubi has no effect on the durability of PS.

The dogs will definitely hold PS off. Remember than Bunta's weight was enough to pin down the Kyubi. The dog, the buffalo, the bird, the chameleon are all as big as Bunta. Gedo Mazo matches PS size too. It they can hold only the arms or the sword(as Hashi did with wooden hands) then Nagarto will get close. Even if they can't, Shinra Tensei will deal will the sword and allow him get close.

Gedo Mazo does not match PS's size, the Mazo isn't even as tall as a Mountain unlike Perfect Susanoo. Neither are the summons and their attacks are completely irrelevant as they lack the power to even scratch PS.

Shinra Tensei has a 5 second interval. 1 slash is blocked and the next one kills him.

 

[Sensational]

Are you guys joking or something?
Pain Stomps mid to low diff.

 

[BlacLord™]

Just the Deva Path?

Then, I guess so...

On the other hand, Madara lasted 24 hours in battle before collapsing....

 

[VongolaX]

Ms madara would lose i think but ems would destroy nagato. Madara fought hashirama and tobimaru, i'm yet to find a ninja that would make it out alive.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

You make no sense. Its Area of Effect is large enough to hit EVERYTHING AT ONCE. He doesn't need to focus on one target. Once they've been slashed enough they will become so small that they are useless in defense and offense. Besides, their attacks are useless against PS so whether they are ignored or destroyed it doesn't matter. Nagato isn't getting close period. The Five Kage were tossed backward by a slash that wasn't even aimed directly at them, Gedo Mazo's feats make it useless against PS and Nagato can repel one slash with ST but he can't repel the other one due to the 5 second interval.




PS is armor for the Kyuubi. Kyuubi has no effect on the durability of PS.




Gedo Mazo does not match PS's size, the Mazo isn't even as tall as a Mountain unlike Perfect Susanoo. Neither are the summons and their attacks are completely irrelevant as they lack the power to even scratch PS.

Shinra Tensei has a 5 second interval. 1 slash is blocked and the next one kills him.

we will never agree on the PS+KYubi thing. I personally believe Madaea had to combine with Kybui or he would not have survived. The PS armor melded with Kyubi's skin. Its not like Kyubi was wearing PS's robes. They combined.

1 slash is blocked, the sword is pushed away or perhaps Nagato goes crazy and knocks PS over with the ST. This is enough to give him time to touch and eat it. And yes, he can do that, he obliterated a whole village remember.


PS slash attack is simply a slash attack. It only affects the arc which it swings. If for example, it tries to slash at a bird, and the bird goes higher, it won't get it, since the bird would have escape the arc. Its not like it shatter those mountains entirely, its merely like a very long sword. Hence it can be dodged.

The dogs are indestructible. Naruto's RS(and I beg you to recall that the RS is slicing the ten tails to bits right now) didn't do ANYTHINg agaonst it. If the slash hits the dogs, it may send it flying but it would slice though, as Rasenshuriken couldn't AT ALL. The dogs can keep fighting forever.

Also, recall that Bansho ten'n allowed Nagato to detach a rock from the side of a clifff face and use it to smashsix tailed Naruto whilehe was making bijuudama. Nagato can merely use that same level of control to keep Susanoo's arms from moving. Then eat all the delicious chakra.

 

[KidGamer65]

we will never agree on the PS+KYubi thing. I personally believe Madaea had to combine with Kybui or he would not have survived. The PS armor melded with Kyubi's skin. Its not like Kyubi was wearing PS's robes. They combined.

@bold: Manga disagrees.

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PS became armor for the Kyuubi.

1 slash is blocked, the sword is pushed away or perhaps Nagato goes crazy and knocks PS over with the ST. This is enough to give him time to touch and eat it. And yes, he can do that, he obliterated a whole village remember.

Lmao, no he can't. Susanoo didn't even flinch at Bijuu Dama. CST is only doing a little bit of damage at the most. Not to mention its swords can stop it from falling by stabbing them into the ground.

@bold: Then it uses the other sword in its other hand and mauls Nagato

PS slash attack is simply a slash attack. It only affects the arc which it swings. If for example, it tries to slash at a bird, and the bird goes higher, it won't get it, since the bird would have escape the arc. Its not like it shatter those mountains entirely, its merely like a very long sword. Hence it can be dodged.

No. The sword makes giant shockwaves. That's how the mountains were cut.

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Nagato isn't dodging that.

The dogs are indestructible. Naruto's RS(and I beg you to recall that the RS is slicing the ten tails to bits right now) didn't do ANYTHINg agaonst it. If the slash hits the dogs, it may send it flying but it would slice though, as Rasenshuriken couldn't AT ALL. The dogs can keep fighting forever.

Like I said already. The dogs are irrelevant. Whether they live or die doesn't matter as they can't do anything to PS. Multiple hits from PS will obviously make it split apart till it becomes small enough to be considered useless.

Also, recall that Bansho ten'n allowed Nagato to detach a rock from the side of a clifff face and use it to smashsix tailed Naruto whilehe was making bijuudama. Nagato can merely use that same level of control to keep Susanoo's arms from moving. Then eat all the delicious chakra.

No. Bansho Tennin pull objects toward him. It doesn't restrict their movements like you claim it can do to PS.

Try again.