Can Obito beat the 4th..?

[Draphsin]

You can't just compare two people if you're gonna advance one and keep the other static. That's purposely making the fight one sided.

Minato died at that age, its not like we're going to make him older and say he has better everything because we havent seen anything. Its like putting prime hiruzen in threads. You dont do it because you dont know his potential. Same with minato, we cant just guess how stronge he will become. When minato died that was his prime unless we see some new techniques from edo minato

Tbh i don't understand people who think Obito could win in a 1vs1. Seems that the amount screentime really has an influence in each other votes or people seem to forget some details. His main power is kamui which has been shown to be slower than FTG. Minato himself has displayed and proved to have better reflexes. For me it's obvious Minato would still win until Obito actually shows Rinnengan or other main techniques in his fighting style other than Kamui

Kamui is slower, but better. If obito had the experience he now possesses then he can tune his reflexes to match that of minato's

Remember when he

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sasuke out of onoki's jinton, now i dont even see A being fast enough to grab him in that time.

 

[Tormound]

Minato died at that age, its not like we're going to make him older and say he has better everything because we havent seen anything. Its like putting prime hiruzen in threads. You dont do it because you dont know his potential. Same with minato, we cant just guess how stronge he will become. When minato died that was his prime unless we see some new techniques from edo minato

You could theorize you know... Minato for one would have elemental rasengan down if he was still alive.

Even then I still think Minato would win because of his FTG.

 

[Lucidus]

Minato would still win and il tell you why... if it was one on one.. Minato wont have to deal with the ninetails at the same time.. and bare in mind Minato only used 2 techs out of the many he has.. mostly rasengan and FTG

Minato is a master of seals..

minato deffinetly can still win.. high diff

 

[Tormound]

Yea he can own 6 Jins, and Obito himself...

It's 1v1, not 1v7 or 1v13 if you count the bijus

 

[SeriousDogg]

It's 1v1, not 1v7 or 1v13 if you count the bijus

Obito will still win medium difficulty.

 

[Draphsin]

You could theorize you know... Minato for one would have elemental rasengan down if he was still alive.

Even then I still think Minato would win because of his FTG.

.....are you seriously gonna make up abilities?

you cant theorize when comparing two characters, that doesnt make it fact....

It's 1v1, not 1v7 or 1v13 if you count the bijus

Are you forgetting the gedo mazou? which holds 1-7 bijuu's chakra?

All obito needs to win is a distraction. If you notice, the

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time obito got ahold of minato was when he used kurama as a

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. If obito uses the gedo mazou the same way with no interruptions, then its a stomp for him...

 

[Tormound]

.....are you seriously gonna make up abilities?

you cant theorize when comparing two characters, that doesnt make it fact....



Are you forgetting the gedo mazou? which holds 1-7 bijuu's chakra?

All obito needs to win is a distraction. If you notice, the

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time obito got ahold of minato was when he used kurama as a

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. If obito uses the gedo mazou the same way with no interruptions, then its a stomp for him...

It's not making it up if he would have gotten the jutsu for a fact if he was alive.
Why are you bringing up the gedo statue I said it's a 1v1 so why are you bringing it up?

 

[Draphsin]

It's not making it up if he would have gotten the jutsu for a fact if he was alive.
Why are you bringing up the gedo statue I said it's a 1v1 so why are you bringing it up?

1. Yes you are, minato was never able to complete the rasengan, fact. In fact, naruto can only do it because he uses multiple clones to produce his RS. The fact that you say minato has an elemental rasengan, when we havent even seen his element is just a terrible way of trying to OP your favorite character....

2. Gedo mazou is a summon, take that away and minato loses food cart destroyer....its a summon too

 

[riek18]

Well Obito's Kamui wouldn't work since Minato can just teleport himself outside the dimension he would get sent to. If you're making Obito fight at 28 then you gotta also age up Minato as if he was alive as well, which would mean he would also be stronger than he was when he first fought Obito.

So no, Obito can't win

this all the way ^^^^^

 

[Tormound]

1. Yes you are, minato was never able to complete the rasengan, fact. In fact, naruto can only do it because he uses multiple clones to produce his RS. The fact that you say minato has an elemental rasengan, when we havent even seen his element is just a terrible way of trying to OP your favorite character....

2. Gedo mazou is a summon, take that away and minato loses food cart destroyer....its a summon too

I never said he had it i said he COULD have gotten it if he was alive. How can he not get it, he was considered THE genius of his generation the best shinobi Konoha has ever produced, thought to be the child of the prophecy by Jiraya, and incredibly intelligent. It's not like saying he could have gotten the justu if he kept living as a chance thing but he was actively working on it and would have gotten had he not died. Besides you would think someone as smart as Minato would use shadow clones. If not he would still have 16 years to try to get it down and seeing how intelligent he is...

2. Oh no! no giant frog to try to stomp on Obito which would never work. Yeah what a great loss if he couldn't summon.

 

[Nakamazi Itchigo]

It's like you don't learn from facts: Minato won their fight not because he had FTG level 2 but rather because he out smarted Obito, Minato thinks of 'the next move' way too fast and analyses his opponent within a minute. Minato will beat him again, high diff of course.

 

[Draphsin]

I never said he had it i said he COULD have gotten it if he was alive. How can he not get it, he was considered THE genius of his generation the best shinobi Konoha has ever produced, thought to be the child of the prophecy by Jiraya, and incredibly intelligent. It's not like saying he could have gotten the justu if he kept living as a chance thing but he was actively working on it and would have gotten had he not died. Besides you would think someone as smart as Minato would use shadow clones. If not he would still have 16 years to try to get it down and seeing how intelligent he is...

2. Oh no! no giant frog to try to stomp on Obito which would never work. Yeah what a great loss if he couldn't summon.

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It's not making it up if he would have gotten the jutsu for a fact if he was alive.

You said he would have gotten it, this is implying fact. We both know this is not true as you just admitted. Minato didnt live long enough to develop his rasengan any further. Thats his prime and theres nothing you can do to change that....stop giving him "what if" abilities U_U

2. Gedo mazou is a summon, point is that summons are allowed in 1v1 battles because its a jutsu, and its fair because its only 1, and minato has 1. So if you dont count the mazou then this debate is done because theres no way minato can beat it and him...

 

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[wildstorm]

People tend to forget that when tobi attacked minato,
1) Minato had to protect the village
2) had to protect his son from hands of tobi
3) same for his wife,
4) had to deal with Kurama ( full powered up)
5) had to deal with Tobi, a ninja about whom he knew nothing,except that he was a better S/T user than himself, & a real threat to the ninja world...

& Inspite of all this, he managed to save everyone, as well as outsmart & defeat tobi( & severely injure him), & he died just because of plot no jutsu.....
No matter how strong tobi gets, he can never improve his smartness & intelligence, & thats why minato will always win.

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

Last time they fought Obito wasn't using Mokuton.
So, Obito rapes his FTG spamming ass little to no difficulty.

 

[The Work]

He had his chance

He had Kyuubi

He sucked

 

[Trig]

I like how a quick assumption of the poll was "Minato fanboys". I like Obito but i have to give it Minato. He can't. If the 4th were still alive, i probably would deem him invincible paired with his son.

 

[Insidious Smile]

No he can't .

 

[xxxNaruto Sage Modexxx]

The battle will have a 99.99% chance of a draw

 

[garas56]

I say he can't becous everything build on who attacks first i think also Minato has much more powers than obito and we dont know everything about his powers.....