Can obito BEAT hashirama?

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@Bold. If this is your counter then you are a joke, sir. This is what people say when they cannot counter someone's argument.

@Underlined. And you are assuming that Obito's Katon isn't as intense as Madara's? Obito's Katon has shown to be on par with Madara's own so you pulled that out of your ass. Mokuton is wood and Obito's Katon is fire. Do the math.

@Red. Kamui and Kurama are two completely different things and Obito is stronger than Kurama. Furthermore, ABC logic doesn't apply to Naruto.



The rock got some screen time while that unnamed fodder who killed Hashirama got none, therefore the rock is superior.​

@ Bold :- Part You are saying he is on par with Madara but EMS Madara went ahead and lost to Hashirama along with Kuruma.

Plus Hashirama has water affinity he can destroy Obito's Katon as he destroyed Madara's without breaking sweat.

@ italic:- you say that A-B-C logic don't work then why compare Madara with Obito ??

Plus Madara is boss and Obito is no where Madara not even in Obito's dreams
 
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@ Bold :- Part You are saying he is on par with Madara but EMS Madara went ahead and lost to Hashirama along with Kuruma.

@ italic:- you say that A-B-C logic don't work then why compare Madara with Obito ??

@Bold. I almost took you seriously, however, then I saw ABC logic. What's up with you and ABC logic? You do realize that it doesn't apply to Naruto, right?

Sasori was pushed to his limits by Chiyo and Sakura. Deidara admitted inferiority to Sasori. Does that mean that Sakura and Chiyo would be capable of pushing Deidara to his limits or even beating him? No. Well, there goes your ABC logic.

@Underlined. That's not ABC logic. It's called 'comparing two Jutsu that have already been compared in the manga'. You'll have to learn what ABC logic means before telling me that I'm using ABC logic.​
 

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Read the manga bro
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Wonder if you read manga ???

Hashirama defeated Madara along with his Katon and what not

@Bold. I almost took you seriously, however, then I saw ABC logic. What's up with you and ABC logic? You do realize that it doesn't apply to Naruto, right?

Sasori was pushed to his limits by Chiyo and Sakura. Deidara admitted inferiority to Sasori. Does that mean that Sakura and Chiyo would be capable of pushing Deidara to his limits or even beating him? No. Well, there goes your ABC logic.

@Underlined. That's not ABC logic. It's called 'comparing two Jutsu that have already been compared in the manga'. You'll have to learn what ABC logic means before telling me that I'm
using ABC logic.​

Fanboys logic >>>>> Manga facts U_U

You win MS Obito >>> EMS Madara >>> Hashirama
 
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cool story bro:rolleyes:

Your fanfictions are quite annoying. Obito already made Kurama his pet at the age of fourteen. [ ] Sorry, that's how it is and it doesn't matter if you like it or not. Please keep your fanfictions to yourself, thank you.​

Fanboys logic >>>>> Manga facts U_U

You win MS Obito >>> EMS Madara >>> Hashirama

Look buddy. You won't get cool points on the internet with this, it only makes you look like an idiot. The fact that you failed to counter every last one of my points and keeped on calling me a fanboy shows me how pathetic you really are and it's because of people like you that the NDS has became a joke.

Goodbye.
 
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cool story bro:rolleyes:

Do you really think the Kyuubi could beat Obito? Lol I don't see why AC is wasting his time trying to convince you guys.

OT: Obito wins but high-diff. I'd say mid-diff but Hashirama's Mayfly technique is the only thing that'll keep him lasting against someone like Obito.
 

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I think this thread has shown us all who the REAL fanboys are :rolleyes:
 

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@Bold. No, I am not overestimating it. The Katon that Tsunade tanked wasn't any larger than her chest considering that she could basically slap it with her arms [ ] while the Katon which Obito used is as large as the Jūbi [ ] so this Katon unlike Madara's would envelope Hashirama's whole body. If Madara used his Jūbi sized Katon then Tsunade would have died.

@Underlined. This isn't something you can use as an argument. Just because Obito's Katon hasn't been shown to kill anyone so far doesn't mean that it can't. The same can be said for Amaterasu then. It never killed anyone and yet we both know that it would kill a good amount of characters shown in the series.

@Red. Move out of the way of a Jūbi sized Katon? Please, tell me that was just a joke. As for the Mokuton blocking it, no, unless this is the Shin Sūsenju, Hashirama's Mokuton isn't blocking it because the Katon would dwarf it and more so, it's wood. Not that it matters in the first place considering that Obito can simply warp next to or behind him without Hashirama even having an idea that Obito is capable of doing this.​

The size of the technique is irrelevant, the potency of the technique is what matters. The aforementioned is one of the strongest in the series and a technique of similar power, the Karyū Endan had little effect on the revived Hokage, and if Katon had that much of an effect, their bodies would have shown damage, but despite being stood right in the middle of the technique for a time before Tobirama used the Suiton, they were unscathed. And I repeat, chakra based fire is no way near as hot as normal fire. Katon jutsu have never killed shinobi, that is manga fact, because they are far weaker and do not come close to natural fires in power or heat. Furthermore, Bakufū Ranbu is no way near as large as the Juubi and even if it were, it wouldn't matter since Madara's Gōka Mekkyaku was shown to be the same size. Besides, Hashirama will have faced Katon a million times before.

You can't compare Amaterasu to normal Katon. Normal Katon have hit people at point blank range more times than can be counted and have lingered but they don't cause more than a few burns because they are basic form of nature transformation, stop talking about them as if they are actual, natural fire. Amaterasu is inextinguishable and each time it has been shown, special methods have been taken to dispose of it.

I'll say it again, it's neither Juubi sized or natural fire.

Sidenote: Looking through your other posts, your clearly partial to Obito so I'll remind you not to let that distort your judgement, as it has done.
 
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No because Obito can only be intangible for 5 min. Hashi will use Shinsusenju's thousands of arms to continuelly punch at Obito at extremely rapid speed for more than 5 min, forcing Obito to use Izanagi. However, unlike Konan's billion explosive tags, Shinsusinju punches can continue forever and are actually much faster. Therefore, the attacks would continue without pause and Obito would be forced to use Izanagi a second time. After that, it's over.

Tell me Obito can teleport away when facing such speed and scale.

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No because Obito can only be intangible for 5 min. Hashi will use Shinsusenju's thousands of arms to continuelly punch at Obito at extremely rapid speed for more than 5 min, forcing Obito to use Izanagi. However, unlike Konan's billion explosive tags, Shinsusinju punches can continue forever and are actually much faster. Therefore, the attacks would continue without pause and Obito would be forced to use Izanagi twice. After that, it's over.

Lol all obito has to do is phase underground..
 

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Lol all obito has to do is phase underground..

Hashi's tech is much faster acting and destructive than Konan's billion paper tags. Also, the punches drill into the ground. How do you think VOTE was created?
 

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obito gets obliterated by hashirama. mokuton clones solo. its already been shown that obito can be hit easily when his attention is divided.

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The only thing Hashirama can't counter is Kamui so..
 

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Since you're listening

Hashi mokuton > obito mokuton
Hashi kin jutsu > obito kinjutsu
Shinnjutsu > Gedo mezo
SM hashi > MS obito
Wood dragon> obito katon

what about six path technique?

Since when does Hashi have a kinjustu?

and Kumai?
 
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MS Obito wins. Hashirama's attacks lack spontaneity - they are not used in waves. His forest is easily evaded and even if he sits on his 1000 hands Buddha statue, Obito can simply teleport to the top most perch, touching Hashirama and teleporting him. Honestly, it's just that simple.

Katon if hits kills hashirama you are making me laugh

Woods realease or Mokton is made from water and earth. Plus water can naturally extinguish fire. Also the whatever the level or power Obito uses Katon it won't be as powerful or as intense as Madara uses so it can't even touch let alone burn him.

And for the kamui you are underestimating Hashirama seriously here. Madara woudn't have gone round about ways to go and fetch the Kyubbi to defeat him if it was that easy to Hashirama

I see, so that's why the Mokuton forest made by Madara was burning.

akashi won via plot obito was exhausted. Hashiramas flowers don't work on senju DNA konan has no chance she just had prep time. Naruto has a chance I guess

Nah, they work on tenderly put out cow's manure.
 

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obito gets obliterated by hashirama. mokuton clones solo. its already been shown that obito can be hit easily when his attention is divided.

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Hashirama has no knowledge of kamui. Obito pops out of the ground and warps hashirama. No FTG to escape it, No S/T.
 

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I say yes because hashiramas fighting style is soley based on smacking you with wood. Obito phases through mokuton and we do know obito has atleast 1 madara scale technique (bakufu ranbu) so what's to stop obito from just phasing and warping hashirama? ( obito should be immune to flower world because senju DNA madara was immune to it and we've seen Edos are not invulnerable to poison through hanzo)

What is wrong with you people, well if you forget let me start this off by saying "NOBITO almost lost to konan, she pushed him to his limits forcing him to use Izangi in order to win." So if your going to say that Obito beats Hashirama then you must also say that Konan beats Hashirama.

Now lets move one a little bit.

1) Obito has very little offensive capabilities that are not close range. This is not counting summoning tailed beasts/Jinchuriki, which wouldnt pose much trouble to Hashirama anyways since he can tame them with his 1000 years of bliss jutsu.

2) As Obito is close range he is only playing into Hashirama's hands, Hashirama is a close range specialist, he wields up to 9 different weapons at once controlling 1 himself and the others with wood. On top of that he has Wood Style which is dangerous close range as well.

3) Lets not forget Obito's weakness which is that he can only stay intangible for 5minutes, after that he can no longer do it. This is important because as soon as he gets too close to Hashirama, Hashirama can back him off with Wood Style, and lets not forget that Hashirama can heal himself without forming seals which is going to make it hard to deal permanant damage to him.

4) Last but not least Hashirama has "Eternal Darkness Jutsu" which is a Genjutsu specifically designed to blind Sharingan users.

I dont understand how one can claim that Obito can simply defeat Hashirama. Wait im not finished yet, one more thing.

1) Obito was upset/surprised when Kabuto summoned Madara to the battle feild. It is obvious that Obito planned on making himself the Jinchuriki and Madara being there gets in his way. So the question is if Obito can solo Hashirama, and Hashirama defeated Madara, then why wouldnt Obito simply defeat Madara? One can argue that The Shinobi Alliance was there, but they would have no reason to step in, they too would want to wait for one of them to defeat the other.

So we see that if Obito was as confident in himself as you guys are then he would have killed Madara, the same Madara who took on the 5 Kages and the Shinobi alliance without breaking a sweat... the Same Obito who could barely Naruto, Kakashi, and Gai.

Stop all this non-sense, Dont overrate Obito.
 

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MS Obito wins. Hashirama's attacks lack spontaneity - they are not used in waves. His forest is easily evaded and even if he sits on his 1000 hands Buddha statue, Obito can simply teleport to the top most perch, touching Hashirama and teleporting him. Honestly, it's just that simple.



I see, so that's why the Mokuton forest made by Madara was burning.



Nah, they work on tenderly put out cow's manure.

His attacks are in continuous waves.

Just look at how fast that barrage is, you can't even see the arms clearly due to the extreme acceleration.

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