Can Naruto break out of corless CT ?

[KidGamer65]

I think that ability depend on user actually using it at specific moment.Way how I see it user can chose will TSB explode , use yin -yang to nullify ninjutsu ,change their shape or use it to erase things.

For example Sasuke could touch Naruto gudoudama because Naruto didn´t use their ability toerase , same with Tobirama catching it, Obito focus was on TSB exploding not erasing things.Not sure its unclear.

BTW what you think can Sasuke use coreless CT withoutputing victim inside genjutsu first in order for their chakra to act as core ?

No, not really. That ability is always on just like the ability to nullify Ninjutsu.

Sasuke was able to touch it for the same reason Tobirama was able to touch it.

There most likely needs to be some link that allows him to make the target the core in the first place. Far more logical than assuming he can clap his hands and have the rocks encase anyone or anything he chooses.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

No, not really. That ability is always on just like the ability to nullify Ninjutsu.

Sasuke was able to touch it for the same reason Tobirama was able to touch it.

There most likely needs to be some link that allows him to make the target the core in the first place. Far more logical than assuming he can clap his hands and have the rocks encase anyone or anything he chooses.

Agree with you .

Bold :

can you explain reason behind that.

 

[Holy God]

It defies the logic of chakra for Sasuke to be able to turn anyone into a core by just his clapping his hands without having some sort of influence on the person themselves. Realistically, Naruto's not going to get caught by it because he won't be subdued under a visual technique for too long.

If we went with the crazy assumption that such a thing is not required, I still don't see Naruto being caught by it. He flies fast enough to the point rocks wouldn't catch him, and in the event that he was to be, he may possibly be able to break out, but that depends on if his own cloak can tank his own attacks.

 

[KidGamer65]

Agree with you .

Bold :

can you explain reason behind that.

Not enough force being applied to Sasuke from the Gudo Dama. Same with Tobirama. It's basically a weapon that turns things it hits to dust. It can't do so without the right amount of force behind it just how you can't cut someone w/ a blade if you don't swing hard enough.

 

[SenseiSama]

It defies the logic of chakra for Sasuke to be able to turn anyone into a core by just his clapping his hands without having some sort of influence on the person themselves. Realistically, Naruto's not going to get caught by it because he won't be subdued under a visual technique for too long.

If we went with the crazy assumption that such a thing is not required, I still don't see Naruto being caught by it. He flies fast enough to the point rocks wouldn't catch him, and in the event that he was to be, he may possibly be able to break out, but that depends on if his own cloak can tank his own attacks.

This right here

 

[lndra]

He should be able to with Kurama's Avatar

 

[shelke]

So, now people are making their own assumptions on how the Jutsu works? This is gold! :kd:

 

[Illuminater]

I think Naruto could just roar the rocks away but who knows if that would stop more rocks from attracting to him. Need more info about the technique

 

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All of these scans show the exact same thing: once the hands are clapped to create CT and rocks start moving, the user no longer controls anything. Madara's, Pein's, and Nagato's hands are down whilst the core is doing the work.

Stop. Deva Path didn't show signs of fatigue and over exertion because he's a dead body. The person controlling him and sending him the chakra however... Buddy started leaking and is visibly exhausted in the next few scans(Didn't care to post).

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Madara was the Juubi Jin, his chakra reserves are limitless. Sasuke's are not, no matter how 'potent' his chakra. Edo Nagato was just that, an Edo. The core doesn't just sit there and pull things towards it forever. It requires chakra to start pulling and the user not pouring more chakra into it stops it from pulling things towards it.

So as far as our scenario with Sasuke doing this to 9 bijuu without putting them in genjutsu. Naruto sucker punches him and rocks his jaw like I said before. Sasuke trying to do this against Naruto is like a battle of who will run out of chakra first.

 

[Michael]

The fanfics continue. XD

Show me manga scan of sasuke using a human as a core for his CT and not the bijuu(masses of chakra), I'll wait.

 

[shelke]

Stop. Deva Path didn't show signs of fatigue and over exertion because he's a dead body. The person controlling him and sending him the chakra however... Buddy started leaking and is visibly exhausted in the next few scans(Didn't care to post).

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Madara was the Juubi Jin, his chakra reserves are limitless. Sasuke's are not, no matter how 'potent' his chakra. Edo Nagato was just that, an Edo. The core doesn't just sit there and pull things towards it forever. It requires chakra to start pulling and the user not pouring more chakra into it stops it from pulling things towards it.

So as far as our scenario with Sasuke doing this to 9 bijuu without putting them in genjutsu. Naruto sucker punches him and rocks his jaw like I said before. Sasuke trying to do this against Naruto is like a battle of who will run out of chakra first.

Nagato was trying to make it bigger.

That has nothing to do with your argument. You are simply straw-manning at this point. The point is making cores and letting them do the work. Having more chakra or less has jack to do with how the Jutsu functions.

How? He doesn't have the speed to blitz Sasuke.

 

[Jiren]

Naruto cannot break out of the core simply because Deva path was shown to manipulate a person center of gravity.

The only way Naruto can break out is to fight off CT but if he's placed in a genjutsu it would be harder. Sasuke didn't want to seal NAruto he wanted to destroy him. Sealing Naruto wouldn't solve his problem especially if someone attempted to free him.

Sasuke could even amplify the technique with his Susanoo. To all those saying his coreless CT is based on genjutsu they should just hang themselves. Chibaku Tensei has nothing to do with genjutsu.

 

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Nagato was trying to make it bigger.

That has nothing to do with your argument. You are simply straw-manning at this point. The point is making cores and letting them do the work. Having more chakra or less has jack to do with how the Jutsu functions.

How? He doesn't have the speed to blitz Sasuke.

Negative ghostrider.

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is Nagato trying to make it bigger(Deva to be exact). I'm pretty sure he never actually did either.

Sure it does. The jutsu does require chakra for it to consistently keep pulling up rocks(As shown in my scan). So when the chakra supply is gone, so does the pulling factor. The core doesn't just go out and start pulling just cause duh and then randomly stop because why not bro.

Amounts of chakra is the only thing that has to do with how the jutsu functions lmao. Compared to sasuke, if we gave Naruto the exact same ability, Naruto could make a CT much larger than his because his chakra reserves run deep.

With Naruto sucker punching Sasuke I'm not being serious. I'm just saying that Sasuke would have to actually focus on actively controlling all 9 bijuu with his CT if he didn't put them under genjutsu, thus leaving him open.

Naruto cannot break out of the core simply because Deva path was shown to manipulate a person center of gravity.

The only way Naruto can break out is to fight off CT but if he's placed in a genjutsu it would be harder. Sasuke didn't want to seal NAruto he wanted to destroy him. Sealing Naruto wouldn't solve his problem especially if someone attempted to free him.

Sasuke could even amplify the technique with his Susanoo. To all those saying his coreless CT is based on genjutsu they should just hang themselves. Chibaku Tensei has nothing to do with genjutsu.

You can't read.

 

[Jiren]

Negative ghostrider.

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is Nagato trying to make it bigger(Deva to be exact). I'm pretty sure he never actually did either.

Sure it does. The jutsu does require chakra for it to consistently keep pulling up rocks(As shown in my scan). So when the chakra supply is gone, so does the pulling factor. The core doesn't just go out and start pulling just cause duh and then randomly stop because why not bro.

Amounts of chakra is the only thing that has to do with how the jutsu functions lmao. Compared to sasuke, if we gave Naruto the exact same ability, Naruto could make a CT much larger than his because his chakra reserves run deep.

With Naruto sucker punching Sasuke I'm not being serious. I'm just saying that Sasuke would have to actually focus on actively controlling all 9 bijuu with his CT if he didn't put them under genjutsu, thus leaving him open.



You can't read.

well I haven't been reading your posts at all mate.

 

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well I haven't been reading your posts at all mate.

Well that's not what I said at all.

 

[Jiren]

Well that's not what I said at all.

Wow so you read every post in the thread and know exactly who I'm refferring to?

 

[Multiply]

Wow so you read every post in the thread and know exactly who I'm refferring to?

I was referring to your inability to read.

 

[shelke]

Negative ghostrider.

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is Nagato trying to make it bigger(Deva to be exact). I'm pretty sure he never actually did either.

Sure it does. The Jutsu does require chakra for it to consistently keep pulling up rocks(As shown in my scan). So when the chakra supply is gone, so does the pulling factor. The core doesn't just go out and start pulling just cause duh and then randomly stop because why not bro.

Amounts of chakra is the only thing that has to do with how the jutsu functions lmao. Compared to sasuke, if we gave Naruto the exact same ability, Naruto could make a CT much larger than his because his chakra reserves run deep.

With Naruto sucker punching Sasuke I'm not being serious. I'm just saying that Sasuke would have to actually focus on actively controlling all 9 bijuu with his CT if he didn't put them under genjutsu, thus leaving him open.

Huh? Nagato is only showing the repercussions of CT's use. Heck, he's still huffing when the Jutsu is complete:

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As I said, the attractive force has to be established with the chakra. Madara did it later. What? Where does it state that? Also, what Edo Nagato just poured all of his chakra into the core and did nothing later? That makes no sense. That alone proves you wrong, in fact. Whether the user has high or low chakra has nothing to do with how the Jutsu fuctions. If chakra is somehow magically poured into the core, then whether a person has more or less chakra, doesn't matter, the hands should be slapped together to keep the focus intact: focus = / = chakra quatity.

This is what the databook 4 states:

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"Chibaku Tensei / Six Paths Chibaku Tensei" has a single entry, and lists "Nagato / Naruto and Sasuke, Hagoromo and Hamura" as its users. It's a kekkei genkai sealing jutsu.

Six Paths Chibaku Tensei is invoked when two users simultaneously touch their target with the "Yin" and "Yang" seals. It rips a giant chunk of earth up and turns it into a heavenly body, becoming the Prison of Six Paths (六道の獄 Rokudō no Goku) that can capture all things (万物捕, "banbutsuto"). It's a sealing jutsu that can be used by individuals who awaken Six Paths Senjutsu.

"Chibaku Tensei" is the version that can be used by a single individual, while "Six Paths Chibaku Tensei" is a more powerful version that requires two individuals simultaneously combining the power of Yin and Yang. It turns the sealing target into a gravity core in the sky, which attracts chunks of earth that bury them alive. This forms a heavenly body in the sky that can act as a prison for even a tailed beast. The section in the bottom left describes how the moon was the result of Six Paths Chibaku Tensei, and that so much chakra was contained within that it turned into a gigantic sattelite. It also describes it as a giant sealing stone (封印石 "Fuinseki"), which implies that Kishimoto took some inspiration from those giant "sealing stones" you sometimes see -- the big boulders with the kanji inscribed on them, usually with the ceremonial ropes adoring them.

It makes no mention of what you are stating. When Nagato stops Konan from interrupting him, it's to make the core; it's only then he talked of 'focus':

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And seriously, how does your argument even make sense? He's pouring chakra into the core that's in the air ... how?

No, they don't. Let's not turn this into a pointless Versus debate. Oh, so, the core is made for shits and giggles? It has to be controlled to pull stuff? I really hope you are joking.

 

[Warlocks]

As far as I know TSB apart from ability to negate Ninjutsu still can erase things like Onoki Jinton as said by Hiruzen and shown with Obito couple times. I dont see problem with TSB erasing trees, rocks .

yup TSB can erase anything

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I'm pretty sure this would easily solo some rocks.