Can Madara copy shinsuusenju ?

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No, it's a jutsu. We have no reason to believe otherwise.


Anyway, so why can't Madara use Mokuton:Shinsuusenju?
Not Senpou, just normal.
This is the first thread I've ever seen categorizing it as a jutsu. Everybody else I know calls it a summoning. We could argue about it all day, but no point, I'm still going to believe that it's a summon.

Even other threads that would ask questions like 'what summoning would you have', people would say Shisuu.
 

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This is the first thread I've ever seen categorizing it as a jutsu. Everybody else I know calls it a summoning. We could argue about it all day, but no point, I'm still going to believe that it's a summon.

Even other threads that would ask questions like 'what summoning would you have', people would say Shisuu.
-Did you see him perform a Summoning Jutsu?

-Did you see him slam his hand on the ground like people do when they summon?

No, and no. He said "Senpo Mokuton: (Indicating he's performing a Mokuton Jutsu) Shinsuusenju"




It doesn't matter what anyone else said as the manga has clearly shown its not a summoning, there is no argument. Believing its a summon is flat out saying the manga is wrong.
 
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This is the first thread I've ever seen categorizing it as a jutsu. Everybody else I know calls it a summoning. We could argue about it all day, but no point, I'm still going to believe that it's a summon.

Even other threads that would ask questions like 'what summoning would you have', people would say Shisuu.
Dude.
He uses "Senpou; Mokuton Shinsuusenju!"
Not "Summoning Jutsu"
I'm pretty sure that should give you a good idea of what it is lmao.

Shucks, it seems KG posted this while I was posting.
 
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So, uh.
Naruto Can't use a giant rasengan outside of SM?
Senpō: Ōdama Rasengan?

Madara can use a Shinsuusenju, just not a "Sage mode" version.
Those rasengans doesn't belong to ''SAGE JUTSUS''.

He can perform all those rasengans outside of SM.

He can perform FRS quite well in base form, the thing is with SM he can throw it and not hurt himself.

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Those rasengans doesn't belong to ''SAGE JUTSUS''.

He can perform all those rasengans outside of SM.

He can perform FRS quite well in base form, the thing is with SM he can throw it and not hurt himself.

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Not true.
Lmao

He can only use Giant Rasengan one handed with SM, :D
 

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You're already trolling around, see? :|


But dis is obviously a "Sage" tech.
There's nothing stopping Naruto doing this any other time except putting more Chakra into them and learning to do it 1 handed..
Minato could do this base..

Same goes for Madara and Shinsuusenju, it'd just be non SM.
 

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But dis is obviously a "Sage" tech.
There's nothing stopping Naruto doing this any other time except putting more Chakra into them and learning to do it 1 handed..
Minato could do this base..

Same goes for Madara and Shinsuusenju, it'd just be non SM.
He's adding senjutsu chakra to it so it can become stronger, it's not a sage jutsu.
 

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It's called "Sage art; Giant Rasengan!"

Why can't Madara use Mokuton; Shinsuusenju and not the Sage version?
There is no reason it can't be done.
Because sage mode increases the amount of chakra you can put into a jutsu at a time. You seem to be forgetting there's a limit to how much of one's chakra they can use at once.
Naruto can make 3 rasenshurikens in base mode. Does that mean he can make a rasenshuriken 3 times bigger than his normal rasenshuriken in base mode? Hell no.
It's the same with Madara and Shinsusenju. He doesnt have the chakra to make it in base mode. Even Hashirama couldnt make it in base, what the hell makes you think Madara can?
 

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some people think that madara by having some of hashirama's cells will reach the same chakra level hashirama had and that what allowed him to use a jutsu of 1K hand's scale.*smh*
 
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