can kamui warp itachi's yata mirror?

[Owarij]

databook link on yata mirror please? :noc:

i gave you! check under susanno

To use as an example
The death god seems to be a spiritual being... like the weapons ...capable of targeting souls etc..

A black hole wouldn't suck it in would it? Nope...Iti's a spiritual item that i believe hovers between this physical plane and the spiritual..

 

[Prince Charles]

i gave you! check under susanno

To use as an example
The death god seems to be a spiritual being... like the weapons ...capable of targeting souls etc..

A black hole wouldn't suck it in would it? Nope...Iti's a spiritual item that i believe hovers between this physical plane and the spiritual..

if thats true then the databook on kamui is false.

it clearly saids their is no escape/defense against kamui so what do we go on?

it seems foolish to take the side of yata mirror and not kamui...

 

[Owarij]

if thats true then the databook on kamui is false.

it clearly saids their is no escape/defense against kamui so what do we go on?

it seems foolish to take the side of yata mirror and not kamui...

The databooks often gives exaggerations and hyperboles..

things like amaterasu is hotter than the sun

Or in kamui's case, no defense is possible, aren't to be taken literally..

For eg, ftg is a perfect defence for kamui....

The databook for yata mirror is however stating specifically what it can block.. Physical, elemental, spirtual and astral.. Kamui is an astral attack..

 

[Prince Charles]

The databooks often gives exaggerations and hyperboles..

things like amaterasu is hotter than the sun

Or in kamui's case, no defense is possible, aren't to be taken literally..

For eg, ftg is a perfect defence for kamui....

The databook for yata mirror is however stating specifically what it can block.. Physical, elemental, spirtual and astral.. Kamui is an astral attack..

if databooks often gives exaggerations and hyperboles and its safe to say yata mirror cant REPEL EVERY SINGLE FORM OF ATTACK

ftg is a counter against kamui not defence

defence means counter like yata mirror vs tbb

i'd love to see yata mirror repel this

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[Memoria]

The databooks often gives exaggerations and hyperboles..

things like amaterasu is hotter than the sun

Or in kamui's case, no defense is possible, aren't to be taken literally..

For eg, ftg is a perfect defence for kamui....

The databook for yata mirror is however stating specifically what it can block.. Physical, elemental, spirtual and astral.. Kamui is an astral attack..

Where was it stated that Kamui is an astral attack? Kamui can teleport anything to another dimension, even the air, Yata is not an exception.

 

[Owarij]

if databooks often gives exaggerations and hyperboles and its safe to say yata mirror cant REPEL EVERY SINGLE FORM OF ATTACK

ftg is a counter against kamui not defence

defence means counter like yata mirror vs tbb

i'd love to see yata mirror repel this

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Tobi's intangibility is also a defence against it..a defence is also a counter...Yata mirror may very well not be able to defend against every kind of attack , but it can , according to databook, defend against elemental, spirtual, astral and physical ones..

 

[KyoshiroSenju]

Black holes cant suck in spiritual items.so kamui doesnt work on yata mirror but it will work on susanoo but it will be useless since susanoo can come back or rebuild it self

 

[KyoshiroSenju]

Where was it stated that Kamui is an astral attack? Kamui can teleport anything to another dimension, even the air, Yata is not an exception.

Well kamui is a black hole tht suck in anythin n transfer it to another dimension n a black hole is a astral attack.

 

[Prince Charles]

Tobi's intangibility is also a defence against it..a defence is also a counter...Yata mirror may very well not be able to defend against every kind of attack , but it can , according to databook, defend against elemental, spirtual, astral and physical ones..

that tobi situation is a whole diff story

tobi's intangibility basically follows the same principles as kamui they are both space/time dimension related.

when it comes to tobi's intangibility and kamui its basically like space time ninjutsu vs space time ninjutsu what would be the outcome?

databook saids there is no defence against kamui so what do we go off of?:shrug:

 

[Owarij]

Black holes cant suck in spiritual items.so kamui doesnt work on yata mirror but it will work on susanoo but it will be useless since susanoo can come back or rebuild it self

exactly what i'm trying to say..

a black hole can't suck in a soul

it can't suck in the death got, or any spirtual thing like that... It would be able to suck in susanno. but as i said, i don't see it making sense to suck in an item that's on a different plane ..

There are defenses..

If minato is attacked by kamui, he can defend by utilizing FTG... That already shows that Ftg is 1 defence...

 

[KyoshiroSenju]

that tobi situation is a whole diff story

tobi's intangibility basically follows the same principles as kamui they are both space/time dimension related.

when it comes to tobi's intangibility and kamui its basically like space time ninjutsu vs space time ninjutsu what would be the outcome?

databook saids there is no defence against kamui so what do we go off of?:shrug:

Dude on the databook it says tht amaterusa is hotter thn the sun but is not since it takes to long to burn someone see tht it exaggerate..soo kamui does have a defence against it.

 

[Dolpha Mihawk]

Kamui can warp anything into another dimension, so IMO there's no question about it, only fanboys would think otherwise.

At the same time the Yata mirror is said to be able to defend against any attack
in the 3rd databook.

the word fanboy is overused here is especially when it's directed at kishimoto himself.

 

[Prince Charles]

Dude on the databook it says tht amaterusa is hotter thn the sun but is not since it takes to long to burn someone see tht it exaggerate..soo kamui does have a defence against it.

that same logic applies to yata mirror then if kamui was just a exaggeration from kishi then yata mirror cant repel every attack?

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

I don't think so, The yata mirror is stuck to the susanoo.

 

[KyoshiroSenju]

that same logic applies to yata mirror then if kamui was just a exaggeration from kishi then yata mirror cant repel every attack?

Maybe it cant but i think it can but it depends on the user chackra.. n itachi doesnt have tht much so he cant repel all attacks but if someone else had the yata mirror thn tht someone can

 

[Prince Charles]

I don't think so, The yata mirror is stuck to the susanoo.

logically its not. it never belonged to sussano in the first place itachi equipped it with it. if it was part of sussano then it would be a different story but its not.

if something is put with something logically you can take it back.

 

[Raito]

exactly what i'm trying to say..

a black hole can't suck in a soul

it can't suck in the death got, or any spirtual thing like that... It would be able to suck in susanno. but as i said, i don't see it making sense to suck in an item that's on a different plane ..

There are defenses..

If minato is attacked by kamui, he can defend by utilizing FTG... That already shows that Ftg is 1 defence...

Yeah this is logical indeed. It's just spiritual energy which appears and disappears together with Susanoo. What happens if Kakashi will suck it into his dimension? Will those spiritual weapons remain there? Let's say Kamui can even suck the death god into his dimension, but the death god will always come back because something like other dimensions doesn't exist for him, after all he by himself isn't from our world too.

If Kakashi absorbed a part of Susanoo, the MS user will always repair and complete it again by giving it chakra. And since Susanoos spiritual weapons aren't even physical objects, they won't be staying in Kakashis dimension but simply dissolve. And Itachi on the other hand will always be able to use it again.

 

[Owarij]

that same logic applies to yata mirror then if kamui was just a exaggeration from kishi then yata mirror cant repel every attack?

Yata mirror is an exact explanation of it's abilities..
It blocks physical elemental astral and spirtual attacks... THAT'S fact.... that's what it does

The exaggeration is the part about it blocking attacks from gods..You have to be able to know and decipher the difference between hyperboles and the true statements..

You can't suck something in a black hole that's a spirit.....That's obvious..

Yeah this is logical indeed. It's just spiritual energy which appears and disappears together with Susanoo. What happens if Kakashi will suck it into his dimension? Will those spiritual weapons remain there? Let's say Kamui can even suck the death god into his dimension, but the death god will always come back because something like other dimensions doesn't exist for him, after all he by himself isn't from our world too.

If Kakashi absorbed a part of Susanoo, the MS user will always repair and complete it again by giving it chakra. And since Susanoos spiritual weapons aren't even physical objects, they won't be staying in Kakashis dimension but simply dissolve. And Itachi on the other hand will always be able to use it again.

Yeaa,

fIRSTLY, i don't even THINK kakashi can kamui susanno.. It's huge.. and powerful.. He had trouble kamuing and pulling in the arm alone of deidara back then.. yeah he got better.. but to kamui a giant structure like that? it's beyond me

But if somehow it does happen, the items would just fall i believe, in some way.. And since it has no real physical form, they can turn into what ever the wielder wants.. so if itachi wished to use it , totsuka could be the size of a normal katana.. But even then, The user of susanno can just add more chakra to fix what was absorbed.. so it really makes little sense for kakashi to do it..

 

[Prince Charles]

Maybe it cant but i think it can but it depends on the user chackra.. n itachi doesnt have tht much so he cant repel all attacks but if someone else had the yata mirror thn he can..

how can it depend on chakra? that sounds foolish. nothing in the databook suggest it depends on the chakra of the user of what certain things yata mirror can block.

 

[Prince Charles]

Yata mirror is an exact explanation of it's abilities..
It blocks physical elemental astral and spirtual attacks... THAT'S fact.... that's what it does

The exaggeration is the part about it blocking attacks from gods..You have to be able to know and decipher the difference between hyperboles and the true statements..

You can't suck something in a black hole that's a spirit.....That's obvious..

spirits cant be absorbed!?!?! sorry buddy but ghost busters say different