Can kaguya do this?

[Rikudou Tobi]

Is it possible for Kaguya to use the power of here too sons?
We know that her power was split in two (her sons)

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So does that mean she equally can use all of hagormoo rinnegan techniques along with Hamura's byukagan/tenseigan capabilities?
We know what her jutsus are but just a thought that seemed plausible.
Or kaguya capable of using any rinnegan/tenseigan users technique? We know that she has a space-time technique that easily surpasses Sasuke's. So what about her using something similar to limbo, shrina tensei, or even Toneri's golden wheel-thing in the Last.

 

[Dark Sonic]

Kaguya is the progenitor.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Justus require knowledge so unless she gains the knowledge to use them then i don't see why not



otherwise thats like saying can the juubi use Chibaku Tensei even though he has an insane amount of chakra and the Rinnegan

 

[Seventh Sama]

No she can't, hagoromo & hamura developed different abilities than her.

 

[Angelic.]

no /thread

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Justus require knowledge so unless she gains the knowledge to use them then i don't see why not



otherwise thats like saying can the juubi use Chibaku Tensei even though he has an insane amount of chakra and the Rinnegan

Okay, but isn't her will (black zetsu) have all the knowledge?

No she can't, hagoromo & hamura developed different abilities than her.

I mean like a water down version or some kind of copy. I know that every rinnegan/tenseigan user developed their own unique technique but some things remain cognitive.
Like when kaguya deployed black zetsu to use a resurrection technique on madara and absorbed Sasuke's amatersu.

 

[BlacLord™]

It depends on how the genes were inherited. If they just "split" like the actual doujutsu did, then yes, they would be apart of her arsenal but if they mutated, then no.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Okay, but isn't her will (black zetsu) have all the knowledge?

I mean like a water down version or some kind of copy. I know that every rinnegan/tenseigan user developed their own unique technique but some things remain cognitive.
Like when kaguya deployed black zetsu to use a resurrection technique on madara and absorbed Sasuke's amatersu.

yea but thats not what i mean by knowledge. BZ knows the jutsus and their capabilities but he doesn't know how to perform them. As long as she knows how to perform them (hand seals, affinity, chakra level, tendency, KKg, etc) then she should be able to use them

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

It depends on how the genes were inherited. If they just "split" like the actual doujutsu did, then yes, they would be apart of her arsenal but if they mutated, then no.

I think it split because Hamura and kaguya still have a byukgan.

yea but thats not what i mean by knowledge. BZ knows the jutsus and their capabilities but he doesn't know how to perform them. As long as she knows how to perform them (hand seals, affinity, chakra level, tendency, KKg, etc) then she should be able to use them

Black zetsu controlled Obito use preform rinne tensei, so he knows how to use them. Some of the ocular techniques also don't require hand seals to use them.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Okay, but isn't her will (black zetsu) have all the knowledge?

I mean like a water down version or some kind of copy. I know that every rinnegan/tenseigan user developed their own unique technique but some things remain cognitive.
Like when kaguya deployed black zetsu to use a resurrection technique on madara and absorbed Sasuke's amatersu.

Still no, the rinnegan & tenseigan seem to be mutations or something like that.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Still no, the rinnegan & tenseigan seem to be mutations or something like that.

Hamura still has the byukgan though, right?
So what traces did Hagormoo still have from his mother?

 

[Seventh Sama]

Hamura still has the byukgan though, right?
So what traces did Hagormoo still have from his mother?

Yes but he has some sort of mutation that allows him to awaken the tenseigan. I know toneri said all you need is otsutsuki chakra & a pure byakugan to awaken it but if that were the case. Then momo, kin & kaguya would have tenseigan. So it goes deeper than that.

Rikudou senjutsu, i originally thought the rinnegan is just a offshoot of the rinnesharingan but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

 

[davidou]

Black zetsu controlled Obito use preform rinne tensei, so he knows how to use them. Some of the ocular techniques also don't require hand seals to use them.

But Kaguya didn't do that.
BZ is smarter than Kaguya, and has way more knowledge than her.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Yes but he has some sort of mutation that allows him to awaken the tenseigan. I know toneri said all you need is otsutsuki chakra & a pure byakugan to awaken it but if that were the case. Then momo, kin & kaguya would have tenseigan. So it goes deeper than that.

Rikudou senjutsu, i originally thought the rinnegan is just a offshoot of the rinnesharingan but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

Well it had to be a certain branch that can awaken the tenseigan. Because the almost all the otsutsuki had byukagans and all of them had otsutsuki chakra. The otsutsuki clan is also a clan with multiple doujutsus ranging from the rinnegan, byukgan, and tenseigan depending on the rarity and branch you come from.

Yeah both Hamura and Hagormoo share the same rikudou senjutsu as the mother but as for you, you believe the doujutsu is off limits right?
So what about the tensei jutsu and absorption jutsu that kaguya was able to use?

 

[Seventh Sama]

Well it had to be a certain branch that can awaken the tenseigan. Because the almost all the otsutsuki had byukagans and all of them had otsutsuki chakra. The otsutsuki clan is also a clan with multiple doujutsus ranging from the rinnegan, byukgan, and tenseigan depending on the rarity and branch you come from.

They probably only awaken byakugan once they gain the ability to use chakra, the databook said kaguya awakened the byakugan when she ate the chakra fruit. The new otsutsuki that came from hamura, Have the potential to awaken the tenseigan since they carry his blood but they seal away their eyes at an early age so that possibility is gone.

Yeah both Hamura and Hagormoo share the same rikudou senjutsu as the mother but as for you, you believe the doujutsu is off limits right?

They inherited her doujutsu or more like got mutation of it . This is the same reason why hagoromo doesn't have MS or ashura's avatar mode. Next generation acquires new abilties/mutations. it's very weird, huh?

So what about the tensei jutsu and absorption jutsu that kaguya was able to use?

Kaguya wasn't dead at all, so idk why you call it "tensei" jutsu, i mean Kaguya is the juubi after all. All BZ did was force madara to absorb chakra from MT and help form kaguya's humanoid body. . Also that's not preta path, Preta path has a barrier around the user while whatever chakra absorber kaguya has. Absorbs jutsu through the body.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

They probably only awaken byakugan once they gain the ability to use chakra, the databook said kaguya awakened the byakugan when she ate the chakra fruit. The new otsutsuki that came from hamura, Have the potential to awaken the tenseigan since they carry his blood but they seal away their eyes at an early age so that possibility is gone.

I thought that the databook said she awakened the rinnesharingan when she ate the fruit?

They inherited her doujutsu or more like got mutation of it . This is the same reason why hagoromo doesn't have MS or ashura's avatar mode. Next generation acquires new abilties/mutations. it's very weird, huh?

That is weird but what I've notice is that some sharingan moves are a spin off of the rinnegan and the same goes vice versa. So I thought Kaguya's sharingan/Rinnesharingan would be the same.

Kaguya wasn't dead at all, so idk why you call it "tensei" jutsu, i mean Kaguya is the juubi after all. All BZ did was force madara to absorb chakra from MT and help form kaguya's humanoid body. . Also that's not preta path, Preta path has a barrier around the user while whatever chakra absorber kaguya has. Absorbs jutsu through the body.

Well kaguya wasn't alive and black zetsu was said in the databook to revive Kaguya. So he needed to absorb a lot of chakra in order to revive kaguya from her shell form (gedo mazou) into her complete form. I know it's not pain's preta but I'm saying that it's a spin off kind of technique. I also notice that Madara and Sasuke didn't have a barrier too.

 

[Seventh Sama]

I thought that the databook said she awakened the rinnesharingan when she ate the fruit?

A great translator said this while translating the db.

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Np~No, it was all one sentence, but I had to split it up in order to make sense in English. Meaning that by eating the Shinjyu fruit, she obtained the both the Rinnesharingan and Byakugan (at the same time).
But if I kept the format, it goes:

両目に”白眼”を宿したカグヤは神樹の実を食べ、額の ”輪廻写輪眼” も開眼。
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• Kaguya, who carried the Byakugan in both eyes, ate the fruit of the Shinjyu, (and) also awakened the "Rinnesharingan" on her forehead.

It's unclear if it truly meant that she had it prior. But I assume not, since the Byakugan is a product of chakra in order to see the chakra point system...she would have no use for it because there would be no chakra to see in the first place before she ate the fruit. Unless she used the Byakugan to find the fruit?
I just assumed that the "also" means they happened to be unlocked simultaneously.

That is weird but what I've notice is that some sharingan moves are a spin off of the rinnegan and the same goes vice versa. So I thought Kaguya's sharingan/Rinnesharingan would be the same.

Nah, It is it's own doujutsu.

Well kaguya wasn't alive and black zetsu was said in the databook to revive Kaguya. So he needed to absorb a lot of chakra in order to revive kaguya from her shell form (gedo mazou) into her complete form. I know it's not pain's preta but I'm saying that it's a spin off kind of technique. I also notice that Madara and Sasuke didn't have a barrier too.

...? Yeah she was. Who do you think it was talking to madara before he absorbed the shinju? :lol

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

A great translator said this while translating the db.

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Np~No, it was all one sentence, but I had to split it up in order to make sense in English. Meaning that by eating the Shinjyu fruit, she obtained the both the Rinnesharingan and Byakugan (at the same time).
But if I kept the format, it goes:

両目に”白眼”を宿したカグヤは神樹の実を食べ、額の ”輪廻写輪眼” も開眼。
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• Kaguya, who carried the Byakugan in both eyes, ate the fruit of the Shinjyu, (and) also awakened the "Rinnesharingan" on her forehead.

It's unclear if it truly meant that she had it prior. But I assume not, since the Byakugan is a product of chakra in order to see the chakra point system...she would have no use for it because there would be no chakra to see in the first place before she ate the fruit. Unless she used the Byakugan to find the fruit?
I just assumed that the "also" means they happened to be unlocked simultaneously.

Okay I see

Nah, It is it's own doujutsu.

I mean that some techniques are similar. I know they're there own doujutsus

...? Yeah she was. Who do you think it was talking to madara before he absorbed the shinju? :lol

The god tree was part of kaguya. Kaguya as a whole was not alive.

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It was kaguya's will

 

[~Ethereal~]

Not sure, she doesn't have a rinnegan does she?

 

[Seventh Sama]

The god tree was part of kaguya. Kaguya as a whole was not alive.

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It was kaguya's will

Inaccurate translation, Here's the offical translation.

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It is her.