Can Healthy Itachi beat SM Hashirama?

[Joseph Gomes]

I love how you have said absolutely nothing on Itachi's stamina. He's at full health, right? I doubt he can outlast Hashirama. Besides, Tsukuyomi? Ever heard of chakra dissipation?

Chakra dissipation can't be helped against Tsukuyomi, if you're not an Uchiha with sharingan you're screwed

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[UltimateDeadpool]

Tsukoyomi one shots Hashirama, Yata Mirror blocks all of Hashirama's attacks, Totsuka blade cuts through Hashirama's buddha statue, Amaterasu burns mokuton

Hashirama's clones can't do anything to Yata Mirror

Hashirama has to stare directly into Itachi's eyes for Tsukiyomi to even be an option.

Hashirama launches Mokuton at Itachi, they hit Yata... but then they keep ground around Yata and Susanoo can't move it.

Buddha grabs Susanoo's arm and rips it off.

Congratulations, now Itachi can't use Amaterasu to burn Hashirama.

Don't need to do anything to Yata, that's the point.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Hashirama has to stare directly into Itachi's eyes for Tsukiyomi to even be an opyion.

Hashirama launches Mokuton at Itachi, they hit Yata... but then they keep ground around Yata and Susanoo can't move it.

Buddha grabs Susanoo's arm and rips it off.

Congratulations, now Itachi can't use Amaterasu to burn Hashirama.

Don't need to do anything to Yata, that's the point.

Itachi cuts down Mokuton with Totsuka Blade. Mokuton isn't doing anything to Itachi. This is not Madara we're talking about, Madara didn't have Totsuka or Yata.

 

[TyrionUchiha]

Chakra dissipation can't be helped against Tsukuyomi, if you're not an Uchiha with sharingan you're screwed

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*sigh* I'll just stop arguing with you and keep my opinion to myself - but still, as long as you're aware of Itachi not being the most powerful, we're good.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

*sigh* I'll just stop arguing with you and keep my opinion to myself - but still, as long as you're aware of Itachi not being the most powerful, we're good.

Totsuka still solos anybody in NV, according to the databook

 

[lanakui8]

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I guess Kakashi's raikiri > Yaata

And since Shinsuusenjuu barrage >> PS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Shinsuusenjuu destroys Yaata with utmost ease. And that's why ladies and gentlemen, no one should take limitless databook hype at face value.

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Shinsuusenjuu barrage = 13 bijuudamashurikens >>>>>>> kyuubi bijuudama > Sandaime raikage (strongest shield) > Yaata (not strongest shield).

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shinsuusenjuu barrage = 13 bijuudamashurikens >>> kyuubi bijuudama >> SM FRS >>> danzou's fodder fuuton blades > Yaata.

 

[TyrionUchiha]

Totsuka still solos anybody in NV, according to the databook

Well according to manga facts, that shit ain't gonna work on Kaguya.

 

[Ashura San]

I'm not saying Hashirama would lose to Itachi but he is so overhyped it's ridiculous.

People are meant to be surpassed. In no way is Itachi stronger than Hashirama but the assets he own, yes I'm talking about Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade, give him the ability to defeat Hashirama.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Itachi cuts down Mokuton with Totsuka Blade. Mokuton isn't doing anything to Itachi. This is not Madara we're talking about, Madara didn't have Totsuka or Yata.

Over-glorified sword and shield, shit compared to Hashirama.

 

[Genjin]

By the time Hashi realizes he can't do anything to Yata Mirror, Hashirama is already under Tsukuyomi

Cool fanfic. Tell us more.

 

[TyrionUchiha]

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I guess Kakashi's raikiri > Yaata

And since Shinsuusenjuu barrage >> PS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Shinsuusenjuu destroys Yaata with utmost ease. And that's why ladies and gentlemen, no one should take limitless databook hype at face value.

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Shinsuusenjuu barrage = 13 bijuudamashurikens >>>>>>> kyuubi bijuudama > Sandaime raikage (strongest shield) > Yaata (not strongest shield).

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shinsuusenjuu barrage = 13 bijuudamashurikens >>> kyuubi bijuudama >> SM FRS >>> danzou's fodder fuuton blades > Yaata.

That reminds me - how the hell is the Yata Mirror supposed to repel a ****ing bijuudamashuriken? Let alone a NORMAL bijuu bomb?

...smfh.

 

[Ashura San]

How do you beat anyone with a shield? Either get around it, or get it away from them.
1. Sage Hashirama likely has the strength to pull it away from Itachi, Wood Man should, and Buddha definitely does.
2. Hashirama uses Mokuton to wrap around Susanoo and make it so Susanoo can't move, that way it can't block anything.
3. Hashirama attacks Itachi from behind, and has several options for doing so: Wood Clone, Wood man, Wood Dragon, etc.
4. Hashirama makes Mokuton grow beneath Itachi's feet inside of Susanoo and completely bypass Yata.

That reminds me - how the hell is the Yata Mirror supposed to repel a ****ing bijuudamashuriken? Let alone a NORMAL bijuu bomb?

...smfh.

If you'd read, it never states that it repels jutsu, it renders all jutsu ineffective; turns it into to nothing; loses it's meaning.

 

[TyrionUchiha]

If you'd read, it never states that it repels jutsu, it renders all jutsu ineffective; turns it into to nothing; loses it's meaning.

Except like, ya know... Kamui... hell, even Obito's Kamui would do the trick.

 

[LustyLover]

Are people really falling for this thread?

+Rep for attracting so many idiots Lol

 

[mishoa]

Totsuka still solos anybody in NV, according to the databook

yeah no your a troll and you act like Tsukuyomi is the end all be all attack when we know for a fact that shisui's Kotoamatsukami is the best genjutsu (im not counting infinate Tsukuyomi because it seems to just be a slightly more powerful version with a huge area of effect) and just for clarification if you want to take everything from the databooks as none arguable facts than heres one for you it states that ALL susanoo are just physical manifestations of the users chakra...they have special properties but chakra is still chakra and HELLO Hashirama can absorb What now? OH yeah Chakra!! the mirror can deflect attacks but absorbing the chakra that makes the mirror up is not a direct attack and cant be defended aganist.... this whole thread was stupid and people need to stop feeding the fanboys

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

If you'd read, it never states that it repels jutsu, it renders all jutsu ineffective; turns it into to nothing; loses it's meaning.

So Yamata no Orochi's heads disappeared when they headbutted Yata? Sasuke's exploding kunais still exploded. What are you trying to say, exactly?

Looks like you're adding stuff:

"-The Mirror of Yata
The substance-less spiritual shield. Endowed will all Nature Alterations, it changes its own attributes in response to the attacks it receives, making the jutsu ineffective."

In layman's terms, it blocks stuff. It blocked Yamata no Orochi's headbutts, it blocked the exploding kunais, but it just has a magical explanation on how it blocks things. Hashirama's Mokuton will just grow around Yata.

 

[Zen Uchiha]

Hashi wins

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

Hashirama is full of health and a lot of Wood. Itachi can't solo that

 

[mishoa]

If you'd read, it never states that it repels jutsu, it renders all jutsu ineffective; turns it into to nothing; loses it's meaning.

yeah you must not know how the mirror works.....it has all five chakra types combined inside of it and when an attack hits it automatically responds with the best combination to negate it weather it be a psychical or spiritual chakra attack ....when an attack hits it disperses it....it doesn't make the attack nothing or make it disappear it just nullifies it... and as I said in another reply Susanoo is just condensed chakra the way around the mirror is not to attack it but to absorb the chakra that makes it up (Hashirama can absorb Chakra) the mirror has special properties but if your just adsorbing it than your not making a direct attack against it than there would be no way for it to defend itself because no matter what it does it's still made up of chakra (unless it magically turns into something other than chakra)

 

[xxSAGExx]

Itachi has Susanoo activated by default. Hashirama starts in sage mode. Itachi has no sickness

Can Itachi beat Hashirama? Will Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade solo once again?

Hashirama doesn't need SM to beat Itachi, base Hashirama was fighting EMS Madara+full Kurama just fine for a good while, he wasn't trying to fight Madara seriously but stop the fight, when he got serious and went SM, he easily pulled PS off of Kurama and put Kurama down. Base Hashirama stopped PS sword, he can do the same with totsuka blade

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Hashirama canattack Itachi from within Susanoo as while since the wood would come from underground. Hashirama's wood can also blind Susanoo and absorb its chakra. Hashirama can also use water and earth jutsus since that's what makes wood jutsus. Hashirama can make 25 wood clones and attack Itachi constantly from all sides (Madara easily made 25 wood clones against the 5 kages and he has less chakra than Hashirama). Itachi can't stay in Susanoo for too long or else he would be suffering from it's side effects which aches every cell in his body as it did Sasuke

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and Sasuke has more chakra than Itachi so keeping it up takes chakra.

Don't count on Genjutsus, Hashirama has been fighting skilled Uchihas all his life. Madara's genjutsu is so strong that he can control Kurama with only his 3 tomoes sharingan when Itachi stated you need the MS for such feat and Itachi praised Madara on taming Kurama like a pet

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. Madara mastered every aspect of the sharingan and he couldn't beat Hashirama, even as a edo tensei with upgrades lost to edo Hashirama. Itachi is skilled but he's not on Madara level, Sasuke was said to have the potential to pass Itachi eyes since part 1 by Orochimaru

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