Can everyone just stop arguing about Madara and Sasuke

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Sasuke surpassed Madara as soon as he manipulted the bijuus chakara on a hagoromo level. Oh and was fighting Kaguya who is clearly stronger than Madara. Oh and sliced madara in half and stabbed him. The only thing Madara has on Sasuke his his regeneration. Madara would be dead like 5 times already. Just like 8 gates guy is completley stronger than madara but even madara said it was up to FATE WHO WON, meaning madara couldn't do shit and needed to pray the gates timed out.
 

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Sasuke wouldn't "fodderstomp" him, a battle between them would be comparable to the one Itachi and Sasuke had, which was epic.
Sasuke would defeat Madara with high difficulty if we REALLY look at this realistically.

EDIT: JJ Madara wins mid to high difficulty.

Just saw your edit, and here is where your first paragraph crumbles.

If JJ Madara can mid/high diff Sasuke (which I agree with) then there is no reason that a non JJ Madara is bringing his fights withSasuke to a high diff to. I think you are severely underestimating just how big of a power up JJ is.
 

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Well I officially resign from the battling doesn't get anyone no where anyway it's a waste of space on the forum page.
 

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take it from the kyuubi's mouth

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Just saw your edit, and here is where your first paragraph crumbles.

If JJ Madara can mid/high diff Sasuke (which I agree with) then there is no reason that a non JJ Madara is bringing his fights withSasuke to a high diff to. I think you are severely underestimating just how big of a power up JJ is.

Please read again, I said that Sasuke might beat a non JJ Madara high diff at this point, but would lose to JJ Madara mid-high diff and that would probably just mean that Madara might have a hard time trying to hit him, since Sasuke seems to be faster than him.

Sorry if my grammar is a little bit hard to understand, but I am trying my best.
 

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Please read again, I said that Sasuke might beat a non JJ Madara high diff at this point, but would lose to JJ Madara mid-high diff and that would probably just mean that Madara might have a hard time trying to hit him, since Sasuke seems to be faster than him.

Sorry if my grammar is a little bit hard to understand, but I am trying my best.
I understand you perfectly, your grammar is fine, but I don't think you are understanding me.
 

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No not even. As a great debater in the Versus Colsseum once said: "Comparing characters without Rikodou/JJ power ups against characters without will always be a stomp match" There is nothing in Madara's arsenal that is bringing this match to even mid diff
I would like to remind you that Rinnegan Madara has Rikudo chakra since he has the Rinnegan... The Sage himself said in the Manga that Madara has his chakra which led in the awakening of the Rinnegan...
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Madara Rinnegan not have the same chakra of Sasuke Rinnegan, because Sasuke has had the Rinnegan and chakra from Rikudou along with other power up.

Madara has awakened rinnegan alone, it's different.

however:

Madara JJ >> Sasuke Rinnegan
Sasuke Rinnegan >> Madara Rinnegan
Madara EMS >> Sasuke EMS
 

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I understand you perfectly, your grammar is fine, but I don't think you are understanding me.

How I am underestimating JJ Madara? I know that he gets a lot stronger and I am also sure that he could even beat both Naruto and Sasuke at the same time, but he might as well lose to them, it just depends on the situation. I didn't mean to say that Sasuke could win against him, even if the seal wasn't required, but Madara might take sometime to deliver the finishing blow since Sasuke would at least try to fight him off and evade his attacks. And as far as speed feats go, Sasuke is superior to Madara, but this doesn't mean that he could actually win against him.
 
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I believe that Sasuke might be able to overwhelm JJ Madera but he does not have the means to seal Madera (unless he can trap him in one of kaguya's dimensions which is unlikely assuming that Madara can use dimension shifting as well with his rinne sharingan )

so Sasuke is fighting an unwinable battle.
 

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Sasuke trumps Madara on Chakra control alone. Not sure what debate is left there.
 

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Please read again, I said that Sasuke might beat a non JJ Madara high diff at this point, but would lose to JJ Madara mid-high diff and that would probably just mean that Madara might have a hard time trying to hit him, since Sasuke seems to be faster than him.

Sorry if my grammar is a little bit hard to understand, but I am trying my best.
lol stop, non jj madara gets casually one shotted. he needs to be a jj with both eyes to even think of beating sasuke.

I would like to remind you that Rinnegan Madara has Rikudo chakra since he has the Rinnegan... The Sage himself said in the Manga that Madara has his chakra which led in the awakening of the Rinnegan...
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you are not implying that rinnegan madara would challenge sasuke? i hope not
 

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I thought u need sage mode to defeat a JJ..like when obito was one

Does sasuke has sage mode??

Plus madara has truth seeking balls which negate ninjutsu so any ninjutsu sasuke throws at him are useless

Plus we never saw Madaras full power with PS in rikudo mode
 
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