can danzo defeat minato ..:)

[Kakashi Fang]

Danzo wins!
Unless you have absolute defense such as susanoo then your lunchmeat for Danzos Izanagi and jutsu.
Kotoamatsukami is not needed really.

 

[Necron]

Minato wins... Danzo was never a kage...

 

[MangekyouJ]

You guys are seriously overlooking the situation....what has Danzo done to prove he's even worthy of winning?? Just because he has stolen sharingan?? Just because he has several forbidden jutsu's?? I've said it once, and I'll say it again....just as Sasuke told Itachi....a jutsu is only as powerful as the user, in the right hands even a pebble can beat a shuriken. Minato proved he can beat anyone you pit him against. Danzo struggled against Sasuke, had all those forbidden jutsu and still ended up dying. Can't say plot no jutsu was a factor. Sasuke only used Susanoo and a regular genjutsu to make him think he saw one more eye for izagani....Danzo is a loser and so are any of you if you think the 4th wouldn't have picked up on it and beated him just as easy.......just sayin.......

 

[ajpn920]

You guys are seriously overlooking the situation....what has Danzo done to prove he's even worthy of winning?? Just because he has stolen sharingan?? Just because he has several forbidden jutsu's?? I've said it once, and I'll say it again....just as Sasuke told Itachi....a jutsu is only as powerful as the user, in the right hands even a pebble can beat a shuriken. Minato proved he can beat anyone you pit him against. Danzo struggled against Sasuke, had all those forbidden jutsu and still ended up dying. Can't say plot no jutsu was a factor. Sasuke only used Susanoo and a regular genjutsu to make him think he saw one more eye for izagani....Danzo is a loser and so are any of you if you think the 4th wouldn't have picked up on it and beated him just as easy.......just sayin.......

I agree. Even if Danzo has 1000 powerful jutsus, he still can't use everything because the chakra is limited. For example, if a ninja can use 10 powerful jutsus in a battle before he depleted his chakra, the chakra reserve will not increase even if you add another 100 jutsus in his arsenal.

Minato displayed his signature jutsus because it give him the advantage in speed and chakra usage. People underestimated him because he always use FTG and rasengan without even thinking that his two jutsus when combine is very dangerous. Add his sealing mastery and summoning then you have an unbeaten ninja.

Uchiha uses sharingan because it is their advantage over the others. Pain uses his rinnegan because it is his advantage. It is normal that people uses whatever advantage they have in every battle. This is what Minato is doing, so don't underestimate him if he only used few jutsus. I don't see how Danzo is winning this battle.

 

[301flip]

minato

 

[MangekyouJ]

I agree. Even if Danzo has 1000 powerful jutsus, he still can't use everything because the chakra is limited. For example, if a ninja can use 10 powerful jutsus in a battle before he depleted his chakra, the chakra reserve will not increase even if you add another 100 jutsus in his arsenal.

Minato displayed his signature jutsus because it give him the advantage in speed and chakra usage. People underestimated him because he always use FTG and rasengan without even thinking that his two jutsus when combine is very dangerous. Add his sealing mastery and summoning then you have an unbeaten ninja.

Uchiha uses sharingan because it is their advantage over the others. Pain uses his rinnegan because it is his advantage. It is normal that people uses whatever advantage they have in every battle. This is what Minato is doing, so don't underestimate him if he only used few jutsus. I don't see how Danzo is winning this battle.

Thank you....finally someone that sees reasoning.

 

[NLee]

Minato is no fool. He's much much much smarter than Sasuke. He would have figured out Izanagi by Danzo's 2nd use, if not 1st.

Minato would walk away from the battle. Not Danzo

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Minato is no fool. He's much much much smarter than Sasuke. He would have figured out Izanagi by Danzo's 2nd use, if not 1st.

Minato would walk away from the battle. Not Danzo

I agree, the only game-changer is KA. If Danzo has it, he auto-wins against anyone who is not Killer Bee or anyone who has Samehada (also Killer Bee), oh and anyone who is not already in Sage mode (fused sage mode w/ Ma and Pa).

Stupid KA, being an auto-win against so many people.

 

[MangekyouJ]

I've said it in previous post where people doubt the Kages....They are the Kages for a reason, meaning they've proved themselves and the people in their village as the #1 in their village. We can't readily tell what they know just because it's a forbidden jutsu. I mean come on...if you're ranked as number one, what's the first thing you're gonna want to know about.....that's right....say it with me: Forbidden Jutsu....and I mean thoroughly search this kinda stuff.....not to learn it, or you'll be in the same boat as Oro, but I mean know what's it's been used in, where it came from......

How do you think Jiraiya immediately recognized the sealing seal on Naruto's stomach, AND the seal that Oro put on top of it....they study on things like that......just saying...

 

[ajpn920]

Until proven, we can say that Minato can't be trapped by a genjutsu. Take his fight with Tobi as an example. Why would a proficient genjutsu user like Tobi failed to use his sharingan on Minato? He failed not once but many times. He was planning to destroy Konoha but why didn't he use his advantage? It doesn't make sense.

Tobi was able to control the fox, yagura (one of the few people mentioned by Danzo to have achieved full control over their respective beast). From these feats, we can say that Tobi is a proficient genjutsu user. It was said that Madara uses his EMS to control the fox. Tobi was able to control the fox. What does this mean?

Tobi failed to use his sharingan before the battle. He took naruto as a hostage instead. It doesn't make sense why he was unable to do that when all he wants is konoha's destruction. He could put Minato in a genjutsu like what he did to Yagura and the fox and order him to destroy the village.

Is Kishi telling us that Minato is this powerful? My so called common sense tells me that he can't be controlled by a genjutsu by an unknown reason. This is the most logical reason why Tobi failed to use his advantage during his battle against Minato. Just don't tell me that Tobi didn't intend to use it...

 

[Necron]

I've said it in previous post where people doubt the Kages....They are the Kages for a reason, meaning they've proved themselves and the people in their village as the #1 in their village. We can't readily tell what they know just because it's a forbidden jutsu. I mean come on...if you're ranked as number one, what's the first thing you're gonna want to know about.....that's right....say it with me: Forbidden Jutsu....and I mean thoroughly search this kinda stuff.....not to learn it, or you'll be in the same boat as Oro, but I mean know what's it's been used in, where it came from......

How do you think Jiraiya immediately recognized the sealing seal on Naruto's stomach, AND the seal that Oro put on top of it....they study on things like that......just saying...

Hey, young man, don't steal my catchphrase... I'm the one who says "just sayin'" around here... just sayin'

 

[Lt Iceman]

Danzo no debate needed

 

[opticsnm]

minato can defeat danzo

 

[Lt Iceman]

minato can defeat danzo

Elaborate gentleman...remember tough that you need to state with manga panels that Minato is getting past Kotoamatsukami...if you can't then your assessment is utterly invalid

 

[Orochimaruwantsyourbody]

Danzō can teleport when using Izanagi, but isn't restricted to seals. His Baku can also suck up all of the seals laying around the battlefield. Eventually, Danzō will certainly place his paralyzing seal on Minato and then it ends.

Or Shisui's Genjutsu wins it.​

 

[zChidori]

With Minato's speed....... no. U_U

 

[MangekyouJ]

Danzō can teleport when using Izanagi, but isn't restricted to seals. His Baku can also suck up all of the seals laying around the battlefield. Eventually, Danzō will certainly place his paralyzing seal on Minato and then it ends.

Or Shisui's Genjutsu wins it.​

Danzo can't teleport you moron. Where on what fight have you seen him teleport....Izagani on bends reality to the user. I guaruntee Danzo will misuse Izagani, just as he did with Sasuke...a rookie move even Konahomaru could and probably wouldn't make.

Elaborate gentleman...remember tough that you need to state with manga panels that Minato is getting past Kotoamatsukami...if you can't then your assessment is utterly invalid

What makes you think that he'll fall victim to it?? Danzo misused KA just as he did with Izagani...that's why he'd lose. You think Danzo is the only person with sealing techniques?? Minato's wife taught him sealing tech's....sealing tech that only the Uzimaki clan knows....so next poor excuse....just saying....

 

[SADAO UCHIHA]

no minato is 2 fast plus danzo is mad old

 

[Orochimaruwantsyourbody]

Danzo can't teleport you moron. Where on what fight have you seen him teleport....Izagani on bends reality to the user. I guaruntee Danzo will misuse Izagani, just as he did with Sasuke...a rookie move even Konahomaru could and probably wouldn't make

Yes, he can,logically.

And Minato doesn't use clone,genjutsu or any utility that guarantees him feigning Danzō

Your opinion contributes nothing.​

 

[MangekyouJ]

Until proven, we can say that Minato can't be trapped by a genjutsu. Take his fight with Tobi as an example. Why would a proficient genjutsu user like Tobi failed to use his sharingan on Minato? He failed not once but many times. He was planning to destroy Konoha but why didn't he use his advantage? It doesn't make sense.

Tobi was able to control the fox, yagura (one of the few people mentioned by Danzo to have achieved full control over their respective beast). From these feats, we can say that Tobi is a proficient genjutsu user. It was said that Madara uses his EMS to control the fox. Tobi was able to control the fox. What does this mean?

Tobi failed to use his sharingan before the battle. He took naruto as a hostage instead. It doesn't make sense why he was unable to do that when all he wants is konoha's destruction. He could put Minato in a genjutsu like what he did to Yagura and the fox and order him to destroy the village.

Is Kishi telling us that Minato is this powerful? My so called common sense tells me that he can't be controlled by a genjutsu by an unknown reason. This is the most logical reason why Tobi failed to use his advantage during his battle against Minato. Just don't tell me that Tobi didn't intend to use it...

I have to agree...if Tobi was this such great genjutsu master....why didn't he kill Minato to get to Kushina....that would have been the best logical thing to do.......just sayin.....