Can bad people be good in the right circumstances?

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And if so, what does that say about morality?
For example, maybe someone wants to blow up a school.
But if his requirements are met, like maybe he is bullied so people stop bullying him and they respect him instead, then he won't do it.
You could argue counter measures like this are good, cus they prevent people from doing bad things.
But you could also argue they are bad, because people who will do bad things don't deserve to have their will met.

But what if a lot of people are just good cus their requirements for being good are met daily? Maybe they don't know what those things are, or other people don't know either, but maybe if they lost their loved ones, their economy, their political system or whatever, then maybe they would be horrible people too, you never know.

So basically, are we all just pretending to be good? Is the reason we are good simply that we have the proper love and education from our parents and we would all kill each other in a heartbeat if civilization around us fell?

I just find it strange thinking, like if I met a criminal, who then was really nice to me, like maybe he is in jail and we would speak somehow, and he would be really kind, like am I allowed to like him back?

I just don't really understand how people can be good and bad at the same time, and what counts and what doens't count, like in Naruto Verse, Orochimaru or Sasuke, or Obito, etc etc all have moments where they are decent people, like would we be able to allow people to behave decently, in the real world? If they could? Despite them having done terrible things?
 

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what right is to you?

People are always changing the bar of approval or just...

Whatt ever majority rules is just.... but people are sheep , lost in a dark cave with only shadows made from those with power as their guidance. So you asked if bad people could be good? Well someone needs to get their hands dirty cuz people like Naruto who ant willing to do what's nessary ,then ultimately the recycle of hate will run wild on the opposing side. Kill or be killed.. or as naruto sees it you kill me i take you with me
 

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If you decide to look at it this way, can we really say that "right" is right? Anything can become right if the majority approves but, what is the real right anyway?

In my opinion, there are no bad people just, people that act accordingly to their own experience and their value of what's right and wrong simply differs from the majority.
 

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The question is "what is a bad person?"

Any person is capable of making bad decisions - of doing bad or destructive things. Good people, who have been told wrong things, can set off to do horrible things in the belief that they are doing good.

Some of the world's most evil people do things that appear, on the surface, to be very good and righteous. They set up massive charities with grandiose names about helping children and the like. They give speeches about empowerment and yadda-yadda. Yet... as you begin to look, each becomes a hollow and vacuous affair, if not downright used to sponsor the opposite of what it suggests. Socialists take six figure payments to show up and talk to impressionable teenagers about how horrible capitalism is and how their lives are ruined unless they go out and vote for socialists. "Defense of children" charities pay to have human traffickers bailed out of court and lobby to continue policies used by pedophile cults to smuggle children around the world. .... Churches take public money to 'safeguard' trafficked people and turn them over to organ traffickers........ wait-we-havent-gotten-to-that-part-yet.

Generally speaking most people define "good" as "favorable." An immediately favorable and pleasurable experience was given to me, therefor the person handing that to me is a good person. Yippee.

This is the simple thinking of an animal, however. A drill instructor, for example, will subject people to all manner of uncomfortable and even painful experiences, abusive treatment, etc... yet will immediately throw away the regard for his or her own life to protect the lives of their recruits and/or those around them, in general.

Still, however, we are defining good/bad(evil) based on the outcome of actions, rather than what a person's true intent is. A good person does what they do in the belief that it is helping the world around them. It may not, in reality. The action and its results, however, are separate from the person and their intent.
Now... this does carry with it some caveats. A good person will, generally, be interested in assessing the outcome of their attempts. When they encounter evidence that their behavior has been destructive, rather than constructive - or that their understanding of things was incomplete/wrong - then they should generally seek to make amends or to otherwise 'repent' for carrying out an action that was ultimately wrong.
An evil person sets out, generally, to destroy and subvert. Different from the drill instructor who is proud to see his charges overcome his assault, an evil person genuinely wants to destroy and harm people around him/her.

But, there are more than just good/evil people, or good/evil intent. Some people are simply selfish and want to do what they want to do, not really caring much one way or the other how it impacts others. Most would assert that this is more closely aligned with evil, but I would argue that those people have never truly encountered evil - or if they have, never fully processed what it was they were seeing.
 

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no matter what kind of life u live there will be a day where your requirements aren't met what u do then shows your nature, life hurts everybody people shouldn't be labelled evil just cos the lose their shit when life hurts them, its human nature on the other hand there are people who carry on without hurting others even when life hurts them which is also something that makes us special as humans
 

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No one is absolutely evil or absolutely good, we humans are usually selfish and greedy... the world is not black and white and neither is peoples moral characters, most people are "gray"
 
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I'm a believer in GOD so I follow his moral values and decide what is right and wrong from his perspective which is and imo should be the universal opinion but of course people have Free will so some may not even believe in morals and pass off their actions as simply just whether it's a good or a bad action.
 
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