Can an uchiha control rinnegan

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can a full blooded uchiha control the rinnegan. SO FAR THE RINNEGAN HAS BE USED by

nagato uzumaki

madara + 1st dna= not full blooded

and i still thing tobi is not an uchiha

i don't think a full blooded uchiha can control it


and to prove my point why was the rinnegan given to nagato and not to an uchiha?
 

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Anyone can use it if they get it somehow but they have to have a large chakra base in order to do all of the techs that require a lot of chakra to do.

lets just face it the Uchiha do not have as much chakra as Senju or Usumaki but they do have a "sinister" kind of chakra and are gifted with eyes.

Madara needed the first Hokages DNA to unlock it....that comes with chakra

A regular Uchiha would not have enough chakra to fight at a high level because the techs require a huge chakra base

to answer your question Tobi probably looked for someone who had a huge chakra base and gave it to them......he found Nagato....
 

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Anyone can use it if they get it somehow but they have to have a large chakra base in order to do all of the techs that require a lot of chakra to do.

lets just face it the Uchiha do not have as much chakra as Senju or Usumaki but they do have a "sinister" kind of chakra and are gifted with eyes.

Madara needed the first Hokages DNA to unlock it....that comes with chakra

A regular Uchiha would not have enough chakra to fight at a high level because the techs require a huge chakra base

to answer your question Tobi probably looked for someone who had a huge chakra base and gave it to them......he found Nagato....
wat stfu madara was full blooded uchiha when he unlocked it he did not hav the 1st dna yet reread the manga.
 

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no1 really knows i guess. so far only person considered to have mastered the rinnegan was so6p himself. as tobi puts it (cause we cant trust that plant for nething) he gave madara's eye's to nagato when he was young. prob in hopes that he can master it b4 dieing (or at least gauge its power) so when the real madara gets back he will rule with unparalleled power with the knowledge on how he can use his eyeballs. but nagato died young, and we saw that it was much to tobi's dismay (even if it was for multiple reasons)


my point is unless the limit of the rinnegan has already been shown in practice already (w/ tobi, madara, nagato) which i really hope it hasnt. no1 can really say if any1 has fully mastered the eyeballs.


n back to earlier on this post. Tobi was mad that nagato died b4 he could use the 'ultimate bring ppls back to life as if they never died no jutsu' on himself? tobi expected to die? or is he dead already? WTFFFFFFF T_T
 

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Madara is still an Uchiha. He fought the 1st Hokage and obtained his Senju cells. He didn't die in his battle with Hashirama. Tobi said to Konan something about the real winner of the battle being the one who chose to focus on the future and that he fought that battle to obtain Hashirama's cells. Lived long enough to give Nagato the Rinnegan (perhaps because he had a large chakra supply so he would be able to use it effectively)
He awakened the Rinnegan shortly before he died and was later ressurected via Edo Tensei but for a moment thought that Nagato had revived him and said something about Nagato managing to grow.

I'm pretty sure Madara was always a full blooded Uchiha. He just obtained Hashirama's cells to gain Hashirama's powers. It's still unsure whether you need Senju and Uchiha to obtain the Rinnegan but if so, Madara either knew that he would gain it so he aimed for acquiring Hashirama's cells, or to his surprise, he unexpectedly awakened it. (not sure whether "unexpectedly" is even a word or not but you know what I mean.)

These are my opinions about the whole thing.
 

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wat stfu madara was full blooded uchiha when he unlocked it he did not hav the 1st dna yet reread the manga.
I think you need to read the manga. It was said that through that fight he gain a portion of the first power (his DNA duh!) and with that shortly before his death he unlocked the rinnegan.

And as far as we know you only need the DNA of a Senju (that is if your an Uchiha already) to unlock the eyes for your self.

But if you already have a set of eye's all you need is to transplant them and hope you have enough chakra to use all the tech's and not kill yourself in the process.

You my friend need to check your fact's before you try to flame someone because if your wrong you will have a whole bunch of people flame you back.
Have a nice day and enjoy the base. ;)
 

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I think you need to read the manga. It was said that through that fight he gain a portion of the first power (his DNA duh!) and with that shortly before his death he unlocked the rinnegan.

And as far as we know you only need the DNA of a Senju (that is if your an Uchiha already) to unlock the eyes for your self.

But if you already have a set of eye's all you need is to transplant them and hope you have enough chakra to use all the tech's and not kill yourself in the process.

You my friend need to check your fact's before you try to flame someone because if your wrong you will have a whole bunch of people flame you back.
Have a nice day and enjoy the base. ;)
go reread boy kabuto said i made an upgrade then madara looked in his shirt an said i want to try something an he did a wood style jutsu kabuto put the 1st dna in him.
 

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go reread boy kabuto said i made an upgrade then madara looked in his shirt an said i want to try something an he did a wood style jutsu kabuto put the 1st dna in him.
He just upgraded him beyond even his prime. Exactly like how he said. Beside how do you know he didn't just implant the cells and combine them better with his DNA so he could use wood release? Doesn't mean he didn't use the cells to unlock the rinnegan.
Nice try though.
Shit for all we know he could have been looking at a battle scar. Why have you seen under his shirt?:shrug:

Either way we will find out soon enough when the manga comes out.
 

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He just upgraded him beyond even his prime. Exactly like how he said. Beside how do you know he didn't just implant the cells and combine them better with his DNA so he could use wood release? Doesn't mean he didn't use the cells to unlock the rinnegan.
Nice try though.
Shit for all we know he could have been looking at a battle scar. Why have you seen under his shirt?:shrug:

Either way we will find out soon enough when the manga comes out.
yea in his prime he did not have the 1st dna in him yet thats y he said i upgraded u beyond ur prime i kno wat im talkin bout u dont
 

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no kabuto said after the fight with the 1st u got some of the 1st power right then madara looked in his shirt an said so thats why...u prepared well thats telling u kabuto put the 1st dna in him.
Yeah but that doesn't mean he put the DNA in him in the first place. If he did then how would Madara have known exactly where to look.
Also Kabuto said "I enhanced to beyond that of your prime" So he probly just enhanced the cells already in there using his and oro's research. Does not mean Madara had not put cell's in himself previously.
Plus the whole concept of the Uchiha needing the Senju cell's is to get closer to the sage. You know the whole Uchiha got the Eyes and powerful chakra and the Senju got the body and will.
Lastly how would Madara be able to just do a wood element jutsu right of the back no big deal? Don't say it's because he's a badass or he copied the first. (I'll tell you how he had used it before just probably not on that scale)
Like I said earlier though arguing is pointless because everything you and I say is hearsay till the manga actually comes out that explains it.

Also no you don't know what your talking about because none of use has seen Madara in his prime just heard about it. Unless you somehow mysteriously work for Kishi.
And IMO opinion his prime would have been when he unlocked the Rinnegan. In RL your prime is the point before you start going downhill.
Madara didn't start going down hill till after his fight with the first seeing as he lived past that.
 
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Yeah but that doesn't mean he put the DNA in him in the first place. If he did then how would Madara have known exactly where to look.
Also Kabuto said "I enhanced to beyond that of your prime" So he probly just enhanced the cells already in there using his and oro's research. Does not mean Madara had not put cell's in himself previously.
Plus the whole concept of the Uchiha needing the Senju cell's is to get closer to the sage. You know the whole Uchiha got the Eyes and powerful chakra and the Senju got the body and will.
Lastly how would Madara be able to just do a wood element jutsu right of the back no big deal? Don't say it's because he's a badass or he copied the first. (I'll tell you how he had used it before just probably not on that scale)
Like I said earlier though arguing is pointless because everything you and I say is hearsay till the manga actually comes out that explains it.

Also no you don't know what your talking about because none of use has seen Madara in his prime just heard about it. Unless you somehow mysteriously work for Kishi.
And IMO opinion his prime would have been when he unlocked the Rinnegan. In RL your prime is the point before you start going downhill.
Madara didn't start going down hill till after his fight with the first seeing as he lived past that.
the reason he was able to use the wood style off the back was be cuz he seen the way the first used it thats how he kne the name of it an probly knos everything about it. mabey there is something on madara like there was danzo who also injected himself with the first dna an thats how he knew were to look. an how is madara supposed to kno his cells wer upgraded there would be no reason to look under his shirt if he already knew he had the 1st cells in him. yes his prime is when he unlocked the rinnegan he had not put the 1st cells in him yet.there would have been no point in kabuto even bringing that up if madara already injected him self with the first cells.
 
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