Can Amenotejikara counter Kamui?

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What Kakashi did there is disrupting, canceling and closing Kaguya's S/T portal that work similar like Sasuke's portal gate.

Give Kamui user much/enough power, they can close Sasuke's portal like nothing.

How naive is you Sasuke the last Uchiha.

Edit: Spiral shape or not, Kamui snipe will nullify it. Not that it gave some advantages to that portal.:nefer::nefer::nefer::nefer:
Kaguya was weakened from using amenominaka, she got blitzed by fodder Naruto and KAKASHI.

And her portal is not spiral so it doesn't work the same, it has it's own advantages and disadvantage.

Obito's S/T is called Kamui cuz it's linked with that dimension and it can be used to send part's of your body to it so you can go through objects.

There are many S/T jutsus that sucks you to the portal like Shin's.
 
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Kaguya was weakened from opening portals, she got blitzed by fodder Naruto and KAKASHI.
And her portal is not spiral so it doesn't work the same.
I tell you the difference in mechanism bcus you're too shallow to understand.

-Sasuke's S/T portal.

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He open up the portal by causing a turbulence/rift between two S/T dimensions walls. Thats how his portal opening works but it not suck anything inside naturally.


-Obito Space time dimension hole creation:-

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Obito open up the portal. Similar to what Sasuke did.

It open up from inside to outside. No suction mechanism there.





-Obito's Kamui other abilities.



Kamui Snipe
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Kamui warp
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-Shin's S/T jutsu

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Both S/T jutsus is suction base jutsu. It drag/sucking people into it. It also can initiate the releasing mechanism.

It never created any opening, hole, portal or gate. Its clearly different compare to Sasuke's S/T jutsu there in working mechanism.

It had nothing to do with Kaguya is weaker. Its just your weak excuses.



Open up your mind and eyes and see the differences.
 
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I tell you the different in mechanism bcus you're too shallow to understand.

-Sasuke's S/T portal.

How its works:-

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He open up the portal by causing a turbulence/rift between two S/T dimensions walls. Thats how his portal opening works but it not suck anything inside naturally.


-Obito Space time dimension hole creation:-

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Obito open up the portal. Similar to what Sasuke did.

It open up from inside to outside. No suction mechanism there.





-Obito's Kamui other ability.



Kamui Snipe
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Kamui warp
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-Shin's S/T jutsu

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Both S/T jutsus is suction base jutsu. It drag/sucking people into it.

It never created any opening, hole, portal or gate. Its clearly different compare to Sasuke's once S/T jutsu there in working mechanism.

It had nothing to do with Kaguya is weaker. Its just your weak excuses.



Open up your mind and eyes and see the differences.
Are you telling me that a fodder ms S/T jutsu is stronger than a Rinnegan and a Rinne Sharingan S/T jutsu???

And your reasoning is retarded.

I already said what is special about Kamui.

In storm 4 Kaguya can move her portal which means it can take fodder Kamui with it, she was just weakened.
 
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Are you telling me that a fodder ms S/T jutsu is stronger than a Rinnegan and a Rinne Sharingan S/T jutsu???

And your reasoning is retarded.
Debate dude and not asking me about fodder or whats not.

Your perception here about this matter is vilify. Sometime not all in fiction follow ABC logic especially for HAX base technique. The user is fodder or not, but the tech can be on anyone be it a fodder or master class.

Learning dude

Edit: I see, what you can do here just telling me my reasoning is retard but not try to counter it.

It look retard to you only bcus your are a troll or hater for the most part. But not for literate people around here. They know what they read and the different.

I think you are the retarded one here. Kid Uchiha the last, Please! game mechanism stayed in game and cant be brought into the manga or what already been displayed by the actual characters in the main story.

And no once Kamui take a hold and disrupted other S/T process, it lock it completely.
 
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That jutsu can help the user to escape Kamui before too late like what Minato did before.

Kamui is not instant.
It sure was fast enough for Kakashi to warp away Pein's bullet. Of course it was very small compared to an entire body and Sasuke can surely escape in that case with Amenotejikara.
But say for example instead of the entire body, Obito only Kamuis a part of the body as small as that projectile for example an eye, then his tech becomes far deadlier. I wonder why he never used it that way during his fight with Minato. Maybe because his Kamui always needs physical contact and Kakashi's does not. But it sure would've been an interesting way to use the tech if possible.
 

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Debate dude and not asking me about fodder or whats not.

Your perception here about this matter is vilify. Sometime not all in fiction follow ABC logic especially for HAX base technique. The user is fodder or not, but the tech can be on anyone be it a fodder or master class.

Learning dude

Edit: I see, what you can do here just telling me my reasoning is retard but not try to counter it.

It look retard to you only bcus your are a troll or hater for the most part. But not for literate people around here. They know what they read and the different.
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This proves that the user can manipulate his S/T jutsu to do different abilities, he instantly opened it the same way as Kamui.
 

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I've seen some people here saying that Sasuke's S/T possibly can open a portal to Kamui's dimension too. His portal opening jutsu is derived from his Ameno, that said, he probably has intel on Kamui's dimension as well.
The Sharingan powers originally come from the RinneSharingan so logically Obito's dimension should be linked with Kaguya's. If he can open portals to Kaguya's dimensions then Sasuke should be able to open a portal to Kamuiland.
 

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This proves that the user can manipulate his S/T jutsu to do different abilities, he instantly opened it the same way as Kamui.
Do you really read my previous post. I clearly show you the working mechanism.



I tell you the difference in mechanism bcus you're too shallow to understand.

-Sasuke's S/T portal.

How its works:-

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He open up the portal by causing a turbulence/rift between two S/T dimensions walls. Thats how his portal opening works but it not suck anything inside naturally.


-Obito Space time dimension hole creation:-

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Obito open up the portal. Similar to what Sasuke did.

It open up from inside to outside. No suction mechanism there.




~Read below part. I tell you the mechanism of Kamui other abilities and Shin own S/T jutsu. They are same in function unlike Sasuke S/T jutsu~





-Obito's Kamui other abilities.



Kamui Snipe
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Kamui warp
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-Shin's S/T jutsu

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Both S/T jutsus is suction base jutsu. It drag/sucking people into it. It also can initiate the releasing mechanism.

It never created any opening, hole, portal or gate. Its clearly different compare to Sasuke's S/T jutsu there in working mechanism.

It had nothing to do with Kaguya is weaker. Its just your weak excuses.



Open up your mind and eyes and see the differences.
 
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Do you really read my previous post. I clearly show you the working mechanism.
You said that Shin doesn't have Kamui snipe when his portal looks the same as Kamui.
The way Kamui snipe is supposed to look was changed by Kishi cuz it looked bad.
 
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You said that Shin doesn't have Kamui snipe when his portal looks the same as Kamui.
Dude I tired to tell you Obito and Shin have a similar working mechanism in their S/T jutsu. It just Obito's Kamui can do several thing compare to Shin S/T jutsu e.g Kamui snipe, intangibility.


I never said Shin S/T jutsu is different compare to Obito. Yeah it different bcus Obito have dimension where Shin doesnt but the working mechanism is same. It was suction base S/T jutsus

You know what the meaning of suction?

suc·tion

ˈsəkSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
the production of a partial vacuum by the removal of air in order to force fluid into a vacant space or procure adhesion.


Do I need to go this far to explain?
 
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Dude I tired to tell you Obito and Shin have a similar working mechanism in their S/T jutsu. It just Obito's Kamui can do several thing compare to Shin S/T jutsu e.g Kamui snipe, intangibility.


I never said Shin S/T jutsu is different compare to Obito. Yeah it different bcus Obito have dimension where Shin doesnt but the working mechanism is same. It was suction base S/T jutsus

You know what the meaning of suction?

suc·tion

ˈsəkSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
the production of a partial vacuum by the removal of air in order to force fluid into a vacant space or procure adhesion.


Do I need to go this far to explain?
All 3 are suction based S/T jutsus, they all do the same.
 

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LOL Sasuke and Obito and Shin all have spiral portals so they all should work the same.
Sasuke > Obito > Shin who could do:
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True but when Sasuke used his to open that portal to the dimension where Momo and Kinshiki were hiding it seemed more stable as everyone was kind of talking before jumping in it whereas Shin and Obito's is more like a black hole...

...then again Sasuke may have control over whether it actually can suck someone in or just creating a stable gateway so to speak. If he can do both than that would make his superior in that regard.
 

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True but when Sasuke used his to open that portal to the dimension where Momo and Kinshiki were hiding it seemed more stable as everyone was kind of talking before jumping in it whereas Shin and Obito's is more like a black hole...

...then again Sasuke may have control over whether it actually can suck someone in or just creating a stable gateway so to speak. If he can do both than that would make his superior in that regard.
That is because the movie is not 100% cannon.
In manga his portal can't look the same as the movie, it's not possible.
 

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Yes but not Sasuke S/T jutsu here.

But we are way off topic here. This is not about Sasuke's portal opening jutsu but Amenotajikara VS Kamui.
Don't take the movies too seriously, sometimes they have major plotholes like Sasuke turning off his Rinnegan in the last.
His portal can't look like this in the manga.
 

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Don't take the movies too seriously, sometimes they have major plotholes like Sasuke turniing off his Rinnegan in the last.
I never take any Naruto's movies or even it anime seriously. But try not to use fanfic to give Sasuke S/T jutsu some value added unless canon manga stated it can suck in and release out people like Kamui.
 
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