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1. Uchihas have avatars, it's called Susanoo

2. Senju rarely get avatars. Out of all of Ashura's descendants Naruto was the only one to use one

3. Nature Energy IS Cosmic Energy, it's the energy surrounding everything from life forms to elements
 

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1. Uchihas have avatars, it's called Susanoo

2. Senju rarely get avatars. Out of all of Ashura's descendants Naruto was the only one to use one

3. Nature Energy IS Cosmic Energy, it's the energy surrounding everything from life forms to elements

Nope. They're not the same. Nature energy is from life forms around you.(grass and shit). Cosmic energy is basically spiritual energy in its rawest form or allowing your body to be the host for a spiritual form such as the Phoenix force or Avatar who can call upon past avatars and use their strength.

Nature energy can be created or destroy. Cosmic energy can't really be destroy. It can return to the spirit world, travel until it find a host, or reform.
 
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So you want a clan with all the freebies to have more freebies so that you can ride their D better ?
Fudge man they can cheat death twice. Wtf do you want ?

I did said call me a fanboy or whatever.

What I really want is to see a few fights of Uchiha members not being nerfed. Only Lord Itachi soloed nerfed and plot!
 

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Nope. They're not the same. Nature energy is from life forms around you.(grass and shit). Cosmic energy is basically spiritual energy in its rawest form or allowing your body to be the host for a spiritual form such as the Phoenix force or Avatar who can call upon past avatars and use their strength.

Nature energy can be created or destroy. Cosmic energy can't really be destroy. It can return to the spirit world, travel until it find a host, or reform.

NE is everything including water and rocks and those aren't life forms they're elements, which are made of star matter just like every life form on Earth.

The avatar or Pheonix force you're talking about already exists in the shape of Susanoo. It's a guardian deity that's manifested by the user's spiritual energy.

On top of that the Rinnegan has control over souls, can't get any more cosmic than that :p
 

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1. Uchihas have avatars, it's called Susanoo

2. Senju rarely get avatars. Out of all of Ashura's descendants Naruto was the only one to use one

3. Nature Energy IS Cosmic Energy, it's the energy surrounding everything from life forms to elements

2. Is wrong. How did you not know Ashura's avatar, is his avatar.
Hashirama's avatar is mokuton: mokujin no jutsu

Shoulda known that from their VOTE fight dude. :|
 

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NE is everything including water and rocks and those aren't life forms they're elements, which are made of star matter just like every life form on Earth.

I'll give you the X men example. NE is everything on planets. CE is the raw energy in space.

Itachi's spiritual weapons....They're made of NE?

That rinnegan shit is the flukest eye out of all of them. I rather have a pair of EMS than rinnegan.
 
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2. Is wrong. How did you not know Ashura's avatar, is his avatar.
Hashirama's avatar is mokuton: mokujin no jutsu

Shoulda known that from their VOTE fight dude. :|

Compare the amount of Susanoo users with the amount of Chakra Avatar users. Ashura is an exception because he was Hago's son. But the Uchiha were able to use Susanoo if they had DMS.

Madara, Sasuke, Itachi, Obito had the chakra to use Susanoo. Hashirama didn't even have an avatar he used Mokuton to make a Buddha Statue. Naruto only had one because of the bijuu in him.

In the span of 1000 years, Ashura only had one descendant capable of using an avatar. Meanwhile Indra had 3 descendants capable of using Susanoo in the span of only 100 years or so. (Madara, Itachi, Sasuke)
 
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Compare the amount of Susanoo users with the amount of Chakra Avatar users. Ashura is an exception because he was Hago's son. But the Uchiha were able to use Susanoo if they had DMS.

Madara, Sasuke, Itachi, Obito had the chakra to use Susanoo. Hashirama didn't even have an avatar he used Mokuton to make a Buddha Statue. Naruto only had one because of the bijuu in him.

Susanoo is the user's special chakra produce from the brain. No unlimited supply of chakra like them senji folks. Them senji have access to unlimited NE as long they body can handle it.

Kish failed to explain how them eyes transplant work. Some saying it gave them more chakra or just remove the blindness. If this is all true, when did Indra went blind and shit?
 
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I'll give you the X men example. NE is everything on planets. CE is the raw energy in space.

Itachi's spiritual weapons....They're made of NE?


NE isn't only on Earth because Naruto was able to use RSM in different dimensions and also used it on the Moon when he fought Toneri.

The Toneri fight might not be canon but Kishi allowing Naruto to absorb NE on the moon would signify that NE is a universal energy.
 

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Compare the amount of Susanoo users with the amount of Chakra Avatar users. Ashura is an exception because he was Hago's son. But the Uchiha were able to use Susanoo if they had DMS.

Madara, Sasuke, Itachi, Obito had the chakra to use Susanoo. Hashirama didn't even have an avatar he used Mokuton to make a Buddha Statue. Naruto only had one because of the bijuu in him.

:| Wood Golem Is His avatar Its his version of it, since Hashirama uses his KKG for pretty much everything.

Just because it's not translucent like Naruto's Kurama avatar, does not mean that it isn't Hashirama's avatar.
As Hashirama is a really special case in this manga.
 
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Right and they're nerfed the most. It is like always plot that never let them have it their way. Only Lord Itachi soled Plot!

Madara. Obito and kamui. amaterasu. Susano, described as the ultimate defence. Genjutsu that solo'd Kurenai. Izanagi & izanami. Pre cog abil.

Shhhh.

I thought you were an Uchiha fapper/hyper ,when I remember your avvy *shrug*

Senju barely got any attention compared to the Uchiha.
 

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I disagree with everything except the last part. It is kinda unfair you go blind after gaining MS. It's like the Uchiha were taught to rely on their eye powers but they go blind if they use their strongest power.
 

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Madara. Obito and kamui. amaterasu. Susano, described as the ultimate defence. Genjutsu that solo'd Kurenai. Izanagi & izanami. Pre cog abil.

Shhhh.

I thought you were an Uchiha fapper/hyper ,when I remember your avvy *shrug*

Senju barely got any attention compared to the Uchiha.

Izanagi & izanami are one time jutsu.

Obitio was able to spam kamui due to half of his body made with 1st hokage DNA. take that shit away from him, he would've gone blind while fighting the 1st hokage.

amaterasu.....That shit failed EVERY TIME!!!

Susano.....The only thing that have been legit throughout the series.
 

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I will call you 'whatever'

Didn't read OP this is my respond to title.
 

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I will call you 'whatever'

Didn't read OP this is my respond to title.

That's stupid. You know you read it. If It had been something positive about your favorite character, you would've like it and shit. So therefore you had to read it to say that BS.
 
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