Calculation of Goku's punching strength (Pre Super Saiyan/Late Namek Saga.).

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So how strong is goku know cause I remember when bobbity compared his power level to earth and it was something like earth was like 300 and goku at I think normal or super saiyan mode was like 3000 or something like that but that was in the anime not too sure in the manga

Pretty damn strong.
 

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Lets look at it this way, Vegeta's power level when he was going to lay waste to the earth with his galick gun was 24,000.
Goku as a SS3 has a powerlevel of 80,000,000. That means by comparison that SS3 Goku could destroy earth with 0.03% of his power. That should put an end to any Naruto > Goku argument.
 

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Exactly man. Goku's kick in base at the end of DBZ at least should be a normal nuke compared to this. Kid Goku is more than anyone in Naruto can handle on a good day. Goku at his peak is just madness for anyone to try and handle outside of the DBZ universe, I hope lurkers see this thread and realize just how futile it is to compare Naruto characters to the DBZ universe. It's just unfair

No. A nuke is pretty darn big bomb. It would bomb a city.
In Bills fight, Goku's SSJ3 punch made a big hole in King Kai's planet. But wait. The planet. It's f*cking small.
Now SSJ times your strength by 50x (fact).
Imagine SSJ3. It's pretty darn OP. And it was WAY over Buu-Saga.
Now Base Goku's kick would at the hardest break an island in half. He's not that OP FFS.
Besides. Goku was able to lift at HARDEST 40 tons while FIGHTING. 40 tons of hit power is below a nuke.
 

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Ki has the potential to be of energy of a small nuke, as with the resource of ki doing such things is not plausible at all. One is able to melt things at above 100 celsius and make shape take form with such and so forth. However the latter of the attack could not even destroy the islandary structures on namek.
Wikipedia on Thermonuclear Explosions said:
A thermonuclear weapon weighing little more than 2,400 pounds (1,100 kg) can produce an explosive force comparable to the detonation of more than 1.2 million tons (1.1 million tonnes) of TNT. Thus, even a small nuclear device no larger than traditional bombs can devastate an entire city by blast, fire, and radiation. Nuclear weapons are considered weapons of mass destruction, and their use and control have been a major focus of international relations policy since their debut.
The attack clearly had at least that amount of weight behind it, but while it is evident as you pointed out that the attack IS indeed powered by both the velocity and the speed of where goku kicked, however frieza was kicked across one, if not several islands before landing. Frieza flying through that structure at mach 93 is just furthermore adding on to this. The point of this?

Well, read. One weighing 2,400 can produce an explosion of approximately 1.2 million tons, which can devastate an entire city by the blast, fire and radiation. Meaning if the attack had the power of a small nuke, which is around 2,000-2,400 pounds, the islandary structure would have vanished from the energy scale of the attack. The only thing where applying physics here works is the weight and speed.

What I am trying to say..? Does it have the weight? Yes, easily. DBZ had this type of weight in Piccolo Daimao. However, does it have the energy, scale, radiation, width or anything of the sort? Not even remotely close.
 

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Lets look at it this way, Vegeta's power level when he was going to lay waste to the earth with his galick gun was 24,000.
Goku as a SS3 has a powerlevel of 80,000,000. That means by comparison that SS3 Goku could destroy earth with 0.03% of his power. That should put an end to any Naruto > Goku argument.


There are many who can destroy goku but Naruto is not even close. Those were arguments by unintelligent 4th graders when naruto was popular on toonami and their parents let them get ahold of a computer. lol. Also, goku was officially 150,000,000 at Frieza SSJ. 80,000,000 was 75% frieza, pfft.

Goku at 0.03 to destroy earth? Lmao don't even get me started but that's too casual. 0.03 is like an omnipotent wiping out 50 trillion multiverses colliding upon eachother. Kid Buu, who is on the level or somewhat stronger than SSJ3 goku, had to power up for his strongest attack, which according to goku, could destroy the earth 10 times. The sun is a casual star, compared to most of the shit we have seen in fiction, it's not big at all, not even the biggest in our galaxy. The sun can fit 100 earths around and 10 billion inside of it. LOL.

So galick gun was going to destroy all of earth huh? Yeah? Then why did SSJ Vegeta's final flash make a planet sized explosion? The distance of strength between SSJ vegeta and Scouter Vegeta is like not even close. He'd beat him with one punch in BASE. It's just a slaughter. Furthermore, when goku's kamehameha overcame his, I didn't see a planet busting. Are you implying scouter vegeta, who gets hurt by punches and kicks from Goku and the Ginyu force, can tank a planet sized attack?
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DBZ wasn't casual planet until Buu saga. Lmao.
 
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There are many who can destroy goku but Naruto is not even close. Those were arguments by unintelligent 4th graders when naruto was popular on toonami and their parents let them get ahold of a computer. lol. Also, goku was officially 150,000,000 at Frieza SSJ. 80,000,000 was 75% frieza, pfft.

Goku at 0.03 to destroy earth? Lmao don't even get me started but that's too casual. 0.03 is like an omnipotent wiping out 50 trillion multiverses colliding upon eachother. Kid Buu, who is on the level or somewhat stronger than SSJ3 goku, had to power up for his strongest attack, which according to goku, could destroy the earth 10 times. The sun is a casual star, compared to most of the shit we have seen in fiction, it's not big at all, not even the biggest in our galaxy. The sun can fit 100 earths around and 10 billion inside of it. LOL.

He meant by the statistics. It's called math, which you just used in your own calculations.
 

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Scouter Power Level doesn't equal destruction level in DBZ, dude. Daizenshuu said that vegeta can NOW destroy a planet when he got big bang and final flash, but he was supposed to be able to when he was immensely weaker? Shouldn't Spirit Bomb from Namek Goku (way stronger than base frieza), be able to easily destroy namek and not make it a wasteland? There are no statistics. Scouter Power Levels ARE accurate, but they don't come in handy when referring to destruction level. It determines ki level, body and mind strength as stated early on. That is the concept of ki in the first place, which it reads. Ki level doesn't equal destruction.
 

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Trying to use real world physics to describe DBZ power levels is a waste of time. The writer didn't have physics in mind when writing it, so its not going to match up properly.
 

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Trying to use real world physics to describe DBZ power levels is a waste of time. The writer didn't have physics in mind when writing it, so its not going to match up properly.

I'm doing no such thing. It's not a good way of refuting the thread's premise on your part.

Physics wasn't ever considered in this manga? What a joke, please leave and never come back, moron.
 

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Best thread I've ever seen in my lyyyyyyfe :/

Ignore that Sasukeekun guy, he's an alt and a moron.
 
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