[Discussion] Cabba Vs. Imperfect cell (first form)

[SixPathsMike101]

Cabba Vs. Cell imperfect cell (first form)

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[EZQ]

SSj cabba? He mops him.

Base Cabba = Base vegeta (not using god power) = Base goku (not using god power) = 3rd form frost < Any form of cell

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Base cabba can probably fight on par, ssj cabba stomps

 

[EZQ]

Base cabba can probably fight on par, ssj cabba stomps

Base cabba is only at Base vegeta level, when the latter is not using god power (basically when they're not in "saiyan beyond god" form, which if you ask me, was retconned since they regretted to make base goku and vegeta god level). Base goku = Base vegeta =3rd form frost = 3rd form frieza on namek, or at least around that level.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Base cabba is only at Base vegeta level, when the latter is not using god power (basically when they're not in "saiyan beyond god" form, which if you ask me, was retconned since they regretted to make base goku and vegeta god level). Base goku = Base vegeta =3rd form frost = 3rd form frieza on namek, or at least around that level.

Base goku or base vegeta from super could one shot any freeza from the namek fights. If cabba was keeping up with base vegeta he should have no problem handling imperfect cell

 

[EZQ]

Base goku or base vegeta from super could one shot any freeza from the namek fights. If cabba was keeping up with base vegeta he should have no problem handling imperfect cell

Base goku and Base vegeta when not being in saiyan beyond god, are the same as their previous base forms (maybe stronger, but no way x50 stronger where they'd be stronger than super saiyan).

This is proven when their super saiyan forms are the same as trunks super sayan forms, who is not a saiyan beyond god.

So, goku and vegeta still need ss1 to beat namek saga frieza

pt: unless you want to say that base trunks is in saiyan beyond god level too, which is impossible since his ss2 form struggled against dabura, the same as a normal ss2 would.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Base goku and Base vegeta when not being in saiyan beyond god, are the same as their previous base forms (maybe stronger, but no way x50 stronger where they'd be stronger than super saiyan).

This is proven when their super saiyan forms are the same as trunks super sayan forms, who is not a saiyan beyond god.

So, goku and vegeta still need ss1 to beat namek saga frieza

pt: unless you want to say that base trunks is in saiyan beyond god level too, which is impossible since his ss2 form struggled against dabura, the same as a normal ss2 would.

Your talking super levels against namek freeza though, ssj trunks one shotted canon timeline full power namek freeza. The dabura he encountered doesn't necessarily equal actual timeline dabura(if you recall 17 and 18 where at diff power then in trunks timeline as well)

Ssj kid trunks and ssj kid goten could each beat namek freeza. That's how far ahead the pl's got in the buu saga, the only person still relevant from before buu saga power wise(enemies anyhow) would be perfect cell and his boosted perfect form. Namek freeza is a clown at this point power wise. Base vegeta one shotted that majin clown in buu saga and his ssj2 power was above ssj2 gohans(if slightly) goku in base in super was able to mess around with hit, and gave frost the business iirc, him and vegeta are close in power. If you think either can't Tsuna flick namek freeza away then our assumptions on their powers are wildly diff