Bye Bye Hurizen hype

[Thane]

No matter what, it doesn't change the fact that he was able to fight both on them in his condition...

Ssh...you're not supposed to remember important stuff from part one! Either blame it on Orochimaru or just ignore it completely!

 

[MorphyRulez]

Well i just here to came dat, Not talking about fanboyz. Real Debaters don't say it. Iruka called him Hiruzen > Hashirama. it's kinda funny.
He fought against 3 v 1 , 2 edo hokage & orochimaru. It's really big deal. I don't know what to say nd care about they don't use jutsu. Cuz rly part1 and part2 power scale is rly different. It's going to worse too. Wait next chapters it would be going to DBZ. well, i'm not here to say Hiruzen > Hashirama but Suigetsu isn't brilliant mind and i believe his opinion is not important as Orochimaru. But in other way, he captured by Orochimaru, Maybe Suigetsu hear from Kabuto or Orochimaru in some way. And It's just Orochimaru's opinion too. We don't know it clearly. But just wait 1-2 chapter too. Kishi would show us i believe. Just Don't rush ^^

 

[silmarill]

Kishi even mentioned it 2 times in this chapter "god of shinobi"
maybe he wanted to make up for a past mistake?

 

[OnPoint]

This was possibly the funniest chapter i've ever read, for multiple reasons.

 

[MrLukyso]

No matter what, it doesn't change the fact that he was able to fight both on them in his condition...

That is so wrong.. How can you even count that fight ? Don't you realize that if that fight would take place now, after what Madara showed us, told us and stuff Hiruzen would get 1 shot with either Wood Dragon or Flower Tree World.

Some facts that completely denies that statement of Hiruzen vs Oro, Tobirama and Hashira.

1. At first lets recap of what they've done in that fight ( Hashirama and Tobirama ).
Hashirama - 1 Wood Style Jutsu that is much weaker than of Madaras.
Tobirama - 1 Water Jutsu which is weaker than Meis.
2. And now how about we think what they can do ?
Hashirama - Wood Dragon which is superior to Kyuubi, Flower Tree World which amazed all 5 Kages and almost killed them, Mokuton Jukai Koutan which took tons or even all of Kyuubis chakra and houndreds of Odama Rasengans to stop, just to stop it, Hashirama is known as the man who can heal his wounds without seals - the best healing Jutsu, Hashirama inheritates the power of Senju clan, the Body and Life Force, Wood Clones theyre very powerul, so that only Madara can see trough them plus those clones almost killed 5 Kages. There's Hashiramas secret scroll which contains tons of forbidden/s rank jutsus, also other mokuton jutsus by Hashirama, plus his battle experience and knowledge.
Tobirama - Space Time Ninjutsu, Edo Tensei, he can create Tsunamies in the place where is no water ( The strongest Water style ), also he has knowledge and battle experience.

So in overall recap Previous Hokages when summoned where at maximum of Jounin level, you can't take that fight into debate, that was long time ago, power levels were different, plot was different, everything was different and Kishimoto changed his mind, Hashirama is strongest Hokage, strongest Shinobi.

 

[Lentz]

Hashirama was a god of shinobi in his time.
Hiruzen was a god of shinobi in his time.

I mean, seriously, what the fu*k is so hard to get here?

 

[LegendaryAce]

Hashirama was a god of shinobi in his time.
Hiruzen was a god of shinobi in his time.

I mean, seriously, what the fu*k is so hard to get here?

i really think kishi should have just said... hashirama was the strongest of his time and hiruzen was the strongest of his time... and not add the god of shinobi thing..