Seeing how I was the one that brought hebi Sauce let clarify. (I only care about he I sauce and above)
If byakugan can't hang with the story's higher tiers then it is irrelevant and Hebi Sauce is where I personally set the bar. Anything below that isn't worth mention
Not only that, but the Senju Clan were matching Uchiha for centuries, during their battles.
Sharingan gives the Uchiha an edge, but as Tobirama explained; most Uchiha drink their own Kool-Aid and think they are stronger than they actually are once they get the sharingan.
Not only that, but the Senju Clan were matching Uchiha for centuries, during their battles.
Sharingan gives the Uchiha an edge, but as Tobirama explained; most Uchiha drink their own Kool-Aid and think they are stronger than they actually are once they get the sharingan.
The Hyuuga clan is winning right now though. One kid doesn't even have the Byakugan and he is crazy talented, to the point where he's already nerfed in the series by being extremely lazy and doesn't train at all, in fact all of his abilities came with no training except shurikenjutsu which was taught in the movie.
Literally meaning he became even more of a threat to his generation after the movie :lol
Then the first hybrid Hyuuga (known to the manga) gets her Byakugan, and she definitely isn't Hinata despite early warnings saying she inherited her gentle personality. She definitely has potential to kick ass. Anything Boruto can do with his body she can most likely do as well; shadow clones, Rasengan, etc.,
Hell Himawari with Sage Mode isn't out of the realm of possibility either since she hasn't been shown to be talented, or talent-less.
Hell no. Uchiha and Senju were known as the strongest clans. No one gave a shit about Hyuga. These were also 3T Uchiha as only Madara and Izuna awakened MS.
And I've already owned Lady Byakugan on this same topic.
Hell no. Uchiha and Senju were known as the strongest clans. No one gave a shit about Hyuga. These were also 3T Uchiha as only Madara and Izuna awakened MS.
And I've already owned Lady Byakugan on this same topic.
Makes you wonder how the hell the Senju kept up with the Uchiha with no KKG, and the Hyuuga clan who actually have a KKG can't kept up with either of two.
I kind of feel like Kishimoto messed up somewhere with that understanding. It would of made more sense if the Senju all had a KKG ability. Right now I just question how the Senju were all able to match Uchiha, outside of Madara who could only fight evenly with Hashirama.
Tobirama is the only one that makes the cut, but given his abilities it isn't that strange. Hell he even had a S/T...
Makes you wonder how the hell the Senju kept up with the Uchiha with no KKG, and the Hyuuga clan who actually have a KKG can't kept up with either of two.
I kind of feel like Kishimoto messed up somewhere with that understanding. It would of made more sense if the Senju all had a KKG ability. Right now I just question how the Senju were all able to match Uchiha, outside of Madara who could only fight evenly with Hashirama.
Tobirama is the only one that makes the cut, but given his abilities it isn't that strange. Hell he even had a S/T...
Agreed. I wish Kishi had expanded more on the Senju. We do know the Senju had the edge in stamina, physical energy, and were known as the clan with a thousand techniques.
But the point still stands Uchiha > Hyuga. People are bringing in Hiashi, but he is the strongest Hyuga out there, so it would only be fair to compare him to the strongest 3T Uchiha out there as well.
It should be noted the Hyuga were known as Konoha's strongest after the Uchiha clan was wiped out. Kid Sasuke was the only Uchiha in the leaf and 1 Uchiha does not equal a clan.
Agreed. I wish Kishi had expanded more on the Senju. We do know the Senju had the edge in stamina, physical energy, and were known as the clan with a thousand techniques.
But the point still stands Uchiha > Hyuga. People are bringing in Hiashi, but he is the strongest Hyuga out there, so it would only be fair to compare him to the strongest 3T Uchiha out there as well.
Right. The Senju were literally the "Jack of all trades, but master of none".
Sad to say none of the Hyuuga were ever given members who could stand equally with the other Clan leaders like Madara/Hashirama, despite also being a "strong clan of the Leaf."
Hinata's feats compared to the K11 are alright, but Sakura low diffs her. Hinata isn't even a strong shinobi to begin with, she was a failure who had to try extremely hard. The other girls aren't really battle ready except Temari (and she isn't even apart of the K11). Hanabi was hyped up to be some kind of Genius too but literally has no feats to back it up.
Neji was the only Hyuuga Clan member to have fought numerous battles, but then his short escapade ended quickly after his match against Kidomaru. Ever since then the Hyuuga's were treated horribly. I mean honestly the strongest person I think Hiashi can defeat by himself would probably be Tsunade, I've seen some pretty legit debating against those two and I can say he can put up a fight and win.
Though no Hyuuga should be capable of defeating a Senju or Uchiha given that the one with the most potential died, the one with hype never showcased it, and the failure remained on the bottom.
But the point still stands Uchiha > Hyuga. People are bringing in Hiashi, but he is the strongest Hyuga out there, so it would only be fair to compare him to the strongest 3T Uchiha out there as well.
It should be noted the Hyuga were known as Konoha's strongest after the Uchiha clan was wiped out. Kid Sasuke was the only Uchiha in the leaf and 1 Uchiha does not equal a clan.
The Mangekyou Sharingan is rare for people who have the sharingan.
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and Susanno is rare for people with MS.
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It's not like being an Uchiha was a guarantee that you would be a badass that no one could f*ck with. Only a handful of Uchiha were ever truly exceptional.
Casual reminder that, before the massacre, 13 year old Itachi and teenage Shisui were considered the strongest elites in the clan. With Fugaku ranking (presumably) high in terms of strength as well.
The Mangekyou Sharingan is rare for people who have the sharingan.
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and Susanno is rare for people with MS.
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It's not like being an Uchiha was a guarantee that you would be a badass that no one could f*ck with. Only a handful of Uchiha were ever truly exceptional.
Casual reminder that, before the massacre, 13 year old Itachi and teenage Shisui were considered the strongest elites in the clan. With Fugaku ranking (presumably) high in terms of strength as well.
in battle ofcoarse sharingan,genjutsu,predicting moves,as well as copying techniques,plus the sharingan can also see chakra and all(though not as good as byakugan)so sharingan for battle
