byakugan > sharingan

[ImNoOne]

Don't be tricked by title. It's just meant to be catchy.

I have stumbled on a variety of arguments that seem to imply that the Byakugan was some sort of step down of the Sharingan. Some stated that the sharingan evolved from the Byakugan some stated otherwise.
I couldn't find any scans regarding this, but that's alright as I figured it should be really old material and I didn't felt like digging that deep.

But more recently I read some people saying that it had been stated in the Manga that, just like the Sharingan, the Byakugan had it's origins in the Rinnegan. This must mean it should be a much more recent info and I actually went all the way till the apparition of Rinnegan and could not find any proof of this.

Maybe in both cases it's just that we are reading different translations. But truth be told I find that highly unlikely.

Sooooo.... It's my understanding that these arguments are completely void. No proof to them whatsoever. I reckon that Doujutsos don't all descend from Rinnegan and Byakugan should be an example, most likely it doesn't have anything to do with the Sharingan hence why Kishi doesn't feel the need to give them upgrades. The gap between the two should be further evidence of this.

Can anyone provide evidence that I'm wrong? Or can we all assume that this is the right conclusion?

 

[soulreaper11]

that is all crap yes it was stated in the manga but it is just one of the big FAILS in the manga.

 

[IzunaUchiha2]

dont get u

 

[Zuruzukin]

I agree with you. Although I love the Byakugan, and I wish it got a little more love, I can't see it going any further

 

[ItachiSan03]

You cannot assume that this is the correct conclusion because nobody can prove your argument wrong. Just because you cant prove me wrong when i say that there are aliens does not mean that there are aliens.
You say these arguments are completely void with no evidence behind them but you dont give any evidence to prove your point.
In sum, you said and proved nothing.

 

[Holy Cross]

i suppose so but I love the byakugan and i wish it would get an upgrade

 

[6thpathsage]

where else would they have come from sage gave eyes to a son and body to another....

 

[ImNoOne]

that is all crap yes it was stated in the manga but it is just one of the big FAILS in the manga.

Oh! So it was stated. Could you post the scans? I couldn't find them...

dont get u

What didn't you get?

 

[CJ Mac]

Kakashi states that the Sharingan is said to be decended from the Byakugan in Chapter 78, Page 13.

 

[Alcapone]

i agree

 

[Zuruzukin]

Kakashi states that the Sharingan is said to be decended from the Byakugan in Chapter 78, Page 13.

rep+ for being cool enough to find a source on the spot

 

[Dantee]

I also have the same theory. Byakugan had nothing to do with the Sage of Six Paths

Kakashi states that the Sharingan is said to be decended from the Byakugan in Chapter 78, Page 13.

That is complete utter false garbadge and I explain it all here...

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[Netsui]

If it was stated in the manga, then maybe we would have to assume that. All of the doujutsu could have came from the Rinnegan. We already know that the Sharingan and Rinnegan are related. And just because a doujutsu came from the Rinnegan doesn't have to be strong.

I wanted to see more from the Byakugan, but then a thought struck me. What else could they add to the Byakugan, and still make it the Byakugan?

 

[Abon]

I agree with you. Although I love the Byakugan, and I wish it got a little more love, I can't see it going any further

iDont think it could go any further ethier.

 

[LegendaryAce]

Eternal Byakugan
-Glance Sucks chakra-
-Touch Sucks chakra-
-Disable other dojutsu abilities-
-needed to awaken Spiral rinnegan
-Can get rid of all evil in someone-
-transfer chakra to others-
-Close your eyes and see the whole world-
-Able to cover your whole body with chakra (similar to naruto's KM)-
-Make minions out of chakra-
this eye will be on the manga ...never!

 

[ImNoOne]

You cannot assume that this is the correct conclusion because nobody can prove your argument wrong. Just because you cant prove me wrong when i say that there are aliens does not mean that there are aliens.
You say these arguments are completely void with no evidence behind them but you dont give any evidence to prove your point.
In sum, you said and proved nothing.

Actually what I was stating here is that said theory had no support whatsoever. I'm not making any theory, just making questions about the validity of the other theory.

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I think the active part of Kakashi's statement would be "they say" which the way I see it holds very little value. Kakashi doesn't said it is like that, he only says that someone says that.

 

[ItachiSan03]

Actually what I was stating here is that said theory had no support whatsoever. I'm not making any theory, just making questions about the validity of the other theory.

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I think the active part of Kakashi's statement would be "they say" which the way I see it holds very little value. Kakashi doesn't said it is like that, he only says that someone says that.

I see. As of now nobody can really say anything about the byakugan, we know next to nothing, and all we've really heard about its history is kakashi who's obviously not all that reliable.

 

[soulreaper11]

Oh! So it was stated. Could you post the scans? I couldn't find them...

it surpass the sharingan when it comes to sight as in seeing charka and reading charka.

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[svladcjelli42]

The Byakugan has enough power already. It's the best doujutsu in the series in terms of actual visual acuity, and Jyuuken is very powerful in the hands of a skilled user. It's better than most sensor abilities at 2-3 miles distance.
Note that Kakashi says, "They say the Uchiha clan's origins lie with the Hyuuga clan." In this case, "they" seem to have been wrong, as it seems more likely now that the Sharingan descended more or less directly from SO6P. Perhaps "they" got it backwards, and Byakuugan is the offshoot.

 

[ImNoOne]

I see. As of now nobody can really say anything about the byakugan, we know next to nothing, and all we've really heard about its history is kakashi who's obviously not all that reliable.

Precisely. That's why I made this thread. I'm not saying that we can conclude that the Byakugan is not Sage related or Sharingan related. All I'm saying is that the info we have is not enough to say that it does.

So we shouldn't take it as a fact that they do. Some people have been throwing around this argument for so long that I see others taking it as a proven fact when all they actually have to back it up is a issue 78 Kakashi saying that it's said that Sharingan came from Byakugan.. We already know what the origin of Sharingan is and we also know that apart from Madara, Tobi and maybe Orochimaru and Kabuto no one else did. And neither Tobi nor Madara said anything about Hyugas.

Another argument that could be made would be. If the Hyugas were the origins of Uchihas how come that the Stone that was entrusted with the secrets about the ES heritage were passed down to a newer branch? If the Hyugas had come first down the succession line shouldn't it had stayed with them?