Byakugan? Necessary?

[kaka96]

1. sasukes sharingan was 2 tomoe then
he activated his 3 tomoe during the fight with naruto

2. Speed can NOT be copied dude
where tf you heard that shit?
he only copied his taijutsu art and his speed has increased during the training with kakashi

you are comparing 2! Tomoe Sharingan with Byakugan not 3Tomoe Sharingan

If you read properly, you'll see that i mentioned that.

And I know that the first comparison was with 2tomoe, that's why I made the second one, where Sasuke did have 3 tomoe, and not only that, he had help from the curse mark and a speed improvement by copying lee's taijutsu and gaining his speed

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

byakugan is for stalker and pervert

 

[GofOfNothing]

If you read properly, you'll see that i mentioned that.

And I know that the first comparison was with 2tomoe, that's why I made the second one, where Sasuke did have 3 tomoe, and not only that, he had help from the curse mark and a speed improvement by copying lee's taijutsu and gaining his speed

"Sasuke had a huge speed boost given to him by copying Lee's Taijutsu..."
that is what you wrote
you clearly say that his speed boost comes from lees taijutsu
sasuke only copied one jutsu from him and that was "kage buyo" and with this taijutsu he made "shishi rendan"
he never got a speed boost by copiying lees taijutsu

and the curse seal gives you a power boost not a speed boost (thats how i understand it)

lets take 2 genius ninjas
one from the uchiha clan with 3 T sharingan , here we take sasuke16 years old when he fought itachi or sasuke when he fought naruto
and one from the hyuuga clan with byakugan, here we take neji 16 years old or neji when he fought against naruto
which one do you see wins this fight?

i say
Sasuke as a 16 years old wins
when they were 14 im not sure

" a sword is only as good as his wielder"
so it doesnt depend on the eyes
it depends on the people which are using these eyes
but if you take the exact same shinobi
one with 3T sharingan and the other one with Byakugan
the Sharingan user will win this

 

[kaka96]

"Sasuke had a huge speed boost given to him by copying Lee's Taijutsu..."
that is what you wrote
you clearly say that his speed boost comes from lees taijutsu
sasuke only copied one jutsu from him and that was "kage buyo" and with this taijutsu he made "shishi rendan"
he never got a speed boost by copiying lees taijutsu

and the curse seal gives you a power boost not a speed boost (thats how i understand it)

lets take 2 genius ninjas
one from the uchiha clan with 3 T sharingan , here we take sasuke16 years old when he fought itachi or sasuke when he fought naruto
and one from the hyuuga clan with byakugan, here we take neji 16 years old or neji when he fought against naruto
which one do you see wins this fight?

i say
Sasuke as a 16 years old wins
when they were 14 im not sure

" a sword is only as good as his wielder"
so it doesnt depend on the eyes
it depends on the people which are using these eyes
but if you take the exact same shinobi
one with 3T sharingan and the other one with Byakugan
the Sharingan user will win this

Taking the comparison of them at 16 breaks the entire purpose that my post originally was of taking 2 shinobis of more or less equivalent level by taking 2 shinobis that are now on completely different level

How the hell do you expect a comparison of a Kage level shinobi with a Jonin level Shinobi to be relevant of the bonus granted by their eyes?

As for the copying only the "dancing leaf shadow", Kakashi himself said that he profited the fact that Sasuke copied Lee's taijutsu to use it in training to master this combat style and we both said, earned the speed

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And... LOL at : the cute Lee xd
Edit: even better, here it says the entire purpose was the speed

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[AbukariDogMan]

its pretty useful being able to see 360 degrees within a square mile radius, nobody can sneak up on you, but it pales in comparison with the others.

 

[GofOfNothing]

Taking the comparison of them at 16 breaks the entire purpose that my post originally was of taking 2 shinobis of more or less equivalent level by taking 2 shinobis that are now on completely different level

How the hell do you expect a comparison of a Kage level shinobi with a Jonin level Shinobi to be relevant of the bonus granted by their eyes?

As for the copying only the "dancing leaf shadow", Kakashi himself said that he profited the fact that Sasuke copied Lee's taijutsu to use it in training to master this combat style and we both said, earned the speed

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And... LOL at : the cute Lee xd
Edit: even better, here it says the entire purpose was the speed

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probably i forgot that he said something like this xd

with the comparison i only wanted to make clear that it doesnt depend on the eyes it depends on the one who is using it
we can not say that sharingan is better than byakugan or byakugan is better than sharingan because sasuke is better than neji or neji was better than sasuke

 

[Kirin Rei]

It's necessary, yes, but I sometimes wonder why Kishi put something like that in when all he does now is focus on the Sharingan and the Rinnegan.

Kishi is an Uchiha fanboy?:shrug:

I don't think he imagined that he would make Sharingan and Rinnegan so OP at first. At the chuunin exams during Neji's fight Kakashi was praising the Hyuuga and Byakugan like he had a crush on the clan. Now look at them, they'd be considered fodder against Naruto or Sasuke.

 

[NLee]

Rinnegan = Best at Ninjutsu
Sharingan = Best at Genjutsu and Taijutsu
Byakugan = Best at ???

There are 3 techniques, Ninjutsu, Genjutsu and Taijutsu. And Byakugan isn't best at any of them.

Sharingan > Byakugan in Taijutsu because Sharingan allows the user to predict their movement.

So basically I don't see the point of Byakugan. It doesn't have anything unique like the Sharingan and the Rinnegan.

The Byakugan allows for Konoha's strongest taijutsu style - Jyuken.

Taijutsu goes to the Byakugan, not the Sharingan.



The Sharingan is more tuned for genjutsu.
That's what it's known for.



Rinnegan = Ninjutsu
-Mastery of all 6 elements
-Absorbing any type of chakra-based attack
-Summoning numerous types of animals without limit
-Gravity/Repulsion Manipulation
-Removal of souls upon contact
-Reading minds upon contact

Sharingan = Genjutsu
-The power to put whoever looks into the Sharingan into a genjutsu
-High caliber genjutsu techniques such as the Tsukiyomi and Koto Amatsukami when you reach the MS
-The Sharingan also has skills in certain Taijutsu via muscle prediction, but when it comes down to it the Sharingan is known for it's genjutsu - even the basic 3-tomoe Sharingan.
-When facing an Uchiha, you don't worry about what ninjutsu attack they'll use or how they'll approach you with taijutsu. You worry about looking into their eyes because you fear their genjutsu.

Byakugan = Taijutsu
-Ability to see the chakra network and the tenketsu
-Enhanced vision to neutralize almost any surprise attack
-Ability to use Jyuken - Konoha's most powerful form of taijutsu - to directly damage the internal organs
-The Hyuuga themselves are taijutsu specialists who are close-combat fighters. This in itself supports the fact
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I know there are areas in which the skills of these eyes cross over. The Sharingan can be proficient in taijutsu, the Byakugan can be used to sense genjutsu, and the Rinnegan is practically the daddy of both eyes. What I'm emphasizing is the areas in which these eyes particularly specialize. Not all of the things they can do.

 

[Frozenstein]

The Byakugan allows for Konoha's strongest taijutsu style - Jyuken.

Taijutsu goes to the Byakugan, not the Sharingan.



The Sharingan is more tuned for genjutsu.
That's what it's known for.



Rinnegan = Ninjutsu
-Mastery of all 6 elements
-Absorbing any type of chakra-based attack
-Summoning numerous types of animals without limit
-Gravity/Repulsion Manipulation
-Removal of souls upon contact
-Reading minds upon contact

Sharingan = Genjutsu
-The power to put whoever looks into the Sharingan into a genjutsu
-High caliber genjutsu techniques such as the Tsukiyomi and Koto Amatsukami when you reach the MS
-The Sharingan also has skills in certain Taijutsu via muscle prediction, but when it comes down to it the Sharingan is known for it's genjutsu - even the basic 3-tomoe Sharingan.
-When facing an Uchiha, you don't worry about what ninjutsu attack they'll use or how they'll approach you with taijutsu. You worry about looking into their eyes because you fear their genjutsu.

Byakugan = Taijutsu
-Ability to see the chakra network and the tenketsu
-Enhanced vision to neutralize almost any surprise attack
-Ability to use Jyuken - Konoha's most powerful form of taijutsu - to directly damage the internal organs
-The Hyuuga themselves are taijutsu specialists who are close-combat fighters. This in itself supports the fact
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I know there are areas in which the skills of these eyes cross over. The Sharingan can be proficient in taijutsu, the Byakugan can be used to sense genjutsu, and the Rinnegan is practically the daddy of both eyes. What I'm emphasizing is the areas in which these eyes particularly specialize. Not all of the things they can do.

not bad. first time I'd be owned if I had any disagreement...

 

[toviasrepier]

It's necessary, yes, but I sometimes wonder why Kishi put something like that in when all he does now is focus on the Sharingan and the Rinnegan.

Simple he obviously doesn't care about Byakugan though if you think of it logically it's Byakugan who should be more resistant to Genjutsu & should have better predication than Sharingan coz:

1. it sees Chackra & its flow a lot better than Sharingan
2. can see through solid objects
3. nearly has no blind spot

Yet Kishi wants us to forget it all by overhaxing Sharingan & Rinnegan

 

[toviasrepier]

Kishi is an Uchiha fanboy?:shrug:

I don't think he imagined that he would make Sharingan and Rinnegan so OP at first. At the chuunin exams during Neji's fight Kakashi was praising the Hyuuga and Byakugan like he had a crush on the clan. Now look at them, they'd be considered fodder against Naruto or Sasuke.

Agree I even got a feeling that the only reason why he still give screen time (w/c is very littel & insignificant) to Byakugan is either for the fans or to degrade it even more.

 

[tristan]

In terms of the eyes actual abilities and nothing like techniques learned

The Rinnigan works like a camera with linked vision and it is assumed to see some sort of nature chakara; thus one has the potential to learn any nature type of ninjitsu. (AKA great for monitoring and securing an area/learning and defending against ninjitsu)

The Sharingan can process rapid movements, can copy enemy ninjitsu, tiejitsu, and genjitsu, can see the color of chakara, and has an hypnotic ability to suggest movments/control anothers mind. (AKA the best for hand to hand combat)

The Buykugan allows one gain the most information at one time, 360/x-ray/in-depth chrakara network/binocular vision. (AKA Data gathering, coordinating, and trap removal)

this would be the point of each of these eyes

rinnegan works like a camera and allows user to use any ninjutsu element that they wish to use...5 basic elements...

 

[Jim Rider]

Sharingan can read hand signs - Gentle fist doesn't need signs.
64 strikes and sharingan = usless

 

[KingHashirama]

Byakugan is better suited if your a Taijutsu fighter.... not the Sharingan. This is the reason why Neji was ahead of Lee in Taijutsu.

 

[Meowazziel]

Rinnegan = Best at Ninjutsu
Sharingan = Best at Genjutsu and Taijutsu
Byakugan = Best at ???

There are 3 techniques, Ninjutsu, Genjutsu and Taijutsu. And Byakugan isn't best at any of them.

Sharingan > Byakugan in Taijutsu because Sharingan allows the user to predict their movement.

So basically I don't see the point of Byakugan. It doesn't have anything unique like the Sharingan and the Rinnegan.

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Sup .

Anyway, byakugan has better insight than both Rinnegan and Sharingan.
None of them can see the tenketsus, none of them have a 360 vision. Rinnegan and Sharingan cant see several km ahead either.Byakugan works great with gentle fist. The taijutsu style that attacks the inside of your body, your organs (which you cannot train, unlike the outside of your body). Byakugan is pretty boss and I believe Kishi will give them the attention they need and deserve in the near future.

 

[Omnipotent]

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Sup .

Anyway, byakugan has better insight than both Rinnegan and Sharingan.
None of them can see the tenketsus, none of them have a 360 vision. Rinnegan and Sharingan cant see several km ahead either.Byakugan works great with gentle fist. The taijutsu style that attacks the inside of your body, your organs (which you cannot train, unlike the outside of your body). Byakugan is pretty boss and I believe Kishi will give them the attention they need and deserve in the near future.

True, but no Kishi won't.