Byakugan Grants Abilities

[Hakke]

That technique is just force too, or else all of the string would be destroyed.

still, it isn't a needle-like Chakra. and of course, it needed some force otherwise how would it be injected?

Kidoumaru calls it the opposite ("web-like chakra").

I don't quite understand you're last sentence. It won't be refueled?

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see, Kidomaru's webs were made of two structures. the external structure which is made from his spit (which is not Chakra), and the internal structure which is web-like Chakra that makes it durable.

Neji was destroying it by destroying the internal structure which is a raw Chakra.

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and he channeled Chakra through the external structure which was not made of Chakra, that's why it was not affected

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[HyuugaHeir]

still, it isn't a needle-like Chakra. and of course, it needed some force otherwise how would it be injected?

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see, Kidomaru's webs were made of two structures. the external structure which is made from his spit (which is not Chakra), and the internal structure which is just web-like Chakra that makes it durable.

Neji was destroying it by destroying the internal structure which is a raw Chakra. and he was channeling Chakra through the external structure which is not made of Chakra

This establishes the difference between Jyuuken and ninjutsu that I have been wondering about. So Jyuuken won't render a ninjutsu useless unless it still has raw chakra within and that certain ninjutsu requires that raw chakra.

I just encountered maybe a couple of posts back about Jyuuken vs Fire Ball Jutsu.

 

[Made in Heaven]

That technique is just force too, or else all of the string would be destroyed.



Kidoumaru calls it the opposite ("web-like chakra").



I don't quite understand you're last sentence. It won't be refueled?

Hey, so, from what you said, I take it you believe Gentle Fist can open the 8 Gates?

 

[jamarcusp17]

It doesn't matter what ability you gave nor does it matter if you are speaking in hypotheticals or not. All Sharingan related abilities that Sasuke would be able to showcase immediately after awakening it. I'm going to assume you didn't say the bold just because of how inane an example that is along with the fact this sentence doesn't help your already garbage argument in any way, shape or form.

The Byakugan does not do what you are saying it does. That's why you do not have a statement or a showing or explanation of any kind. The Byakugan itself has barely been implied to require Byakugan to simply channel chakra (not target Tenketsu obviously) and this moron is actually sitting here arguing like he's spitting facts. Meanwhile I have:

-Manga saying you need to train to use these 2 abilities proficiently. Thus nothing is granted.
-Momoshiki, Kinshiki don't use the Gentle Fist. Neither does Ao, but people will make the excuse that he can because he hasn't shown any feats.



What's tiring is your inability to comprehend anything that contradicts your nonsense fantasies. That's why you are masking your ignorance and stupidity with the act of you being the one who is being misunderstood. You post your opinion while ignoring what people post towards you as if anyone gives a damn about your opinion without an argument behind it.

You calling people stupid doesn't help you prove a point. All that does is prove that you're the one incapable of using actual logic to validate your argument. You say you couldn't give even a damn about anything regarding a fanwar, yet, here you are, once again, disputing everything someone says if it is not in your favor, which is the case for anything good related to the Byakugan. You know my name, you know where I stand, so I'm not sure why you even bother reading anything I post on here if you feel everything I say is "inane"--btw, find another word. You own a device that is capable of finding every synonym ever created for a word in every language for the word "stupid," but you can't find another one.

The fact that you continuously read and reply to my threads even though you say that I am stupid/have no idea what I'm talking about means that you care so deeply for what I believe--which is in the Hyuga--that you have no other choice but to refute it. Have an actual, civil conversation with someone with actual facts provided within the media instead of saying someone is incapable of understanding your logic, which cannot be understood. If you don't know how to, take a couple college writing courses. If you already have, retake them.

If you are able to have a civil conversation, then I seriously want you to give me an explanation for Himawari using Gentle Fist, even though you yourself stated that one needs to have training for it as well as training for the Byakugan.

Thanks,
jamarcusp17

 

[Styles]

yeah it is sad sometimes I saw some of tem, maybe they are just trolling or wanking.

:lol Always good to find out there are still some logical members on here.

 

[Holy God]

still, it isn't a needle-like Chakra. and of course, it needed some force otherwise how would it be injected?

The Gentle Fist doesn't require force to inject chakra, hence the name itself and shown by how they fight. Something like that and Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm do not do that, but use force.

see, Kidomaru's webs were made of two structures. the external structure which is made from his spit (which is not Chakra), and the internal structure which is web-like Chakra that makes it durable.

Neji was destroying it by destroying the internal structure which is a raw Chakra.

and he channeled Chakra through the external structure which was not made of Chakra, that's why it was not affected

That explanation doesn't work. In the first example, Neji destroys both structures via cutting. Either way, yes, he does destroy the internal structure. In the second example, however, you say he transfers chakra through just the spit, but that is obviously not the case, as the image you posted shows the chakra filling through the inside of the string. That makes these two contradictory.

 

[Holy God]

Hey, so, from what you said, I take it you believe Gentle Fist can open the 8 Gates?

Probably.

 

[KidGamer65]

You calling people stupid doesn't help you prove a point. All that does is prove that you're the one incapable of using actual logic to validate your argument. You say you couldn't give even a damn about anything regarding a fanwar, yet, here you are, once again, disputing everything someone says if it is not in your favor, which is the case for anything good related to the Byakugan. You know my name, you know where I stand, so I'm not sure why you even bother reading anything I post on here if you feel everything I say is "inane"--btw, find another word. You own a device that is capable of finding every synonym ever created for a word in every language for the word "stupid," but you can't find another one.

The fact that you continuously read and reply to my threads even though you say that I am stupid/have no idea what I'm talking about means that you care so deeply for what I believe--which is in the Hyuga--that you have no other choice but to refute it. Have an actual, civil conversation with someone with actual facts provided within the media instead of saying someone is incapable of understanding your logic, which cannot be understood. If you don't know how to, take a couple college writing courses. If you already have, retake them.

If you are able to have a civil conversation, then I seriously want you to give me an explanation for Himawari using Gentle Fist, even though you yourself stated that one needs to have training for it as well as training for the Byakugan.

Thanks,
jamarcusp17

I've made my argument and you haven't addressed it, which is why you typed up all this drivel that has not a damn thing to do with the thread. Either you address it or you do what trolls do best and stop posting.

Thanks,
Not a fanboy.

 

[jamarcusp17]

Yes, Himawari used Gentle Fist after awakening the Byakugan. With the Byakugan activated, she automatically sees the pressure points and would naturally attack them directly. It in no way means the Byakugan "awakens" Gentle Fist, because Gentle Fist is a fighting style which isn't just automatically learned shown by how Hyuuga have to train vigorously.

Okay. So I can probably accept that. But what do you say about the ability to release chakra like Hyugas do? Do you believe that it is an inherited KKG, being able to release chakra like she did? If not, what do you believe that was?

 

[Holy God]

Okay. So I can probably accept that. But what do you say about the ability to release chakra like Hyugas do? Do you believe that it is an inherited KKG, being able to release chakra like she did? If not, what do you believe that was?

The Hyuuga's ability to control their chakra is definitely special to their clan through genetics, but I wouldn't say it's necessarily a bloodline limit.

 

[Misо]

Yes, Himawari used Gentle Fist after awakening the Byakugan. With the Byakugan activated, she automatically sees the pressure points and would naturally attack them directly. It in no way means the Byakugan "awakens" Gentle Fist, because Gentle Fist is a fighting style which isn't just automatically learned shown by how Hyuuga have to train vigorously.

So she magically learned how to apply a perfect amount of chakra to her fingers and release it, right?

 

[Made in Heaven]

The Hyuuga's ability to control their chakra is definitely special to their clan through genetics, but I wouldn't say it's necessarily a bloodline limit.

That's what a bloodline limit is.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

That's what a bloodline limit is.

lowkey laughing when HG posted that.

 

[Holy God]

That's what a bloodline limit is.

So I guess you think that hair color is a bloodline limit too? I guess you must also think the Uzumaki's strong life force and chains are bloodline limits as well, despite them not being so?

 

[Holy God]

So she magically learned how to apply a perfect amount of chakra to her fingers and release it, right?

You don't need a specific, perfect amount of chakra. It's pretty obvious she was so angered she was naturally exerting chakra, unless you're saying the Byakugan magically gives you a tutorial on the Gentle Fist.

 

[Made in Heaven]

So I guess you think that hair color is a bloodline limit too? I guess you must also think the Uzumaki's strong life force and chains are bloodline limits as well, despite them not being so?

Abilities =/= Hair color. Chains are likel a KKG considering Karin awakened them. You dont awaken Hidens.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

so you're saying Byakugan automatically grants the user the ability to use GF. Now explain Ao not being a GF user, even though he's had a Byakugan for years

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Not a hyuga

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Exactly..i had this discussion with one of the better Neji fans on here before. We know for a fact that

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through Kidomaru's thread to make it tougher but when Neji sends Jyuuken into it, the Jyuuken chakra has a darker tint to it.

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I always felt gentle fist chakra was different since it makes no sense how it can destroy organs by inserting chakra into the opponent when chakra was already flowing around said organs in the first place but it can't be proven thanks to kishi completely relegating them to the sidelines.

That would make sense because all of the four Clans got special chakra

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Damagin internal organs are only an added effect, I think since the chakra circulatory system is kind of intertwined with the many blood vessels and vital organs of the human body.

God, being a Hyuuga fan requires smarts.



Maybe because ninjutsu is created by kneading chakra to connect the inner spiritual and physical energies unlike the Jyuuken which exploits raw chakra, or chakra itself. It all comes down to chakra and how it is manufactured, produced and channeled. Chakra destroys chakra. But chakra destroys ninjutsu, hmmmm the only thing we have seen is that fight against Kidomaru, so it is hard to tell if it applies to everything.

If not hard to understand everything made from Chakra is held together by chakra and by destroying the bond that is chakra a Jutsu would unravel just like the webs of that Spider Guy it was held together by chakra

 

[unknownvillain1254]

My point exactly. Why should it damage internal organs by channeling chakra into a chakra circulatory system that already has chakra flowing in it? The gentle fist seems to be like a poison type chakra imo but yeah like i said..no way to prove it.

That reminds me of a theory I made a long time ago where I said the hyuga chakra is special

And that is there chakra that destroys other chakra so basically they have different chakra like all the other for Clans that came from kayua