But Sasuke and Madara...

[SenseiSama]

because naruto and anyone else would get negged if they had to contend with not only madara and sasukes susanoo and sharingan abilities, top tier taijutsu and (at least in madaras case) earth shattering regular ninjutsu, but also the 6 paths jutsus.

naruto barely beat the 6 paths and had to be saved by hinata and kurama and then after gaining all that intel and having bee backing him up he still got negged by negate who couldn't even move. imagine if a fully functioning healthy madara and sasuke were using those jutsu

You forgot to add copy tech to Sasuke's arsenal and Ashura-level Mokuton for Madara :yeah:

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Nagato can only use shinra tensei sasuke has ameno madara has limbo

You're quite a bit detached off your brain. Someone who has access to the full power of the Rinnegan he awakened can't use a jutsu of the same eye that someone with an implanted version of it used? How the hell is that possible?

 

[Omar19992010]

Madara's didn't get enough time with both Rinnegan and we haven't seen much of Adult Sasuke.

 

[Angelic.]

bc nagato has to look special with the combinations :[

 

[Liquid Snake]

You're quite a bit detached off your brain. Someone who has access to the full power of the Rinnegan he awakened can't use a jutsu of the same eye that someone with an implanted version of it used? How the hell is that possible?

Did madara use shinra tensei? No so stfu did madara use soul Dragon? No so stfu apparently it doesn't matter who awakened the rinnegan it depends on the user of the eyes. No one has even used the summons nagato had or his metal arms . And when uchihas transplant eyes the don't have the same powers as the one who awakened the sharigan they had their own powers . Hence why sasuke doesn't have yata mirror or anything even with itachis eyes

 

[Liquid Snake]

because naruto and anyone else would get negged if they had to contend with not only madara and sasukes susanoo and sharingan abilities, top tier taijutsu and (at least in madaras case) earth shattering regular ninjutsu, but also the 6 paths jutsus.

naruto barely beat the 6 paths and had to be saved by hinata and kurama and then after gaining all that intel and having bee backing him up he still got negged by negate who couldn't even move. imagine if a fully functioning healthy madara and sasuke were using those jutsu

Naruto didn't fully master sm when he fought nagato and was caught off guard the second time and Naruto doesn't have all sm jutsus at his disposal if Naruto had sound genjutsu he'd*shit on madara and sasuke so they don't have all rinnegan techs Naruto doesn't have all sm techs and the fact Naruto has rsm he should use all elements he's nerfed there too u fanboys act like ur faves are the only ones lacking power they should have so stfu

 

[Omar19992010]

Did madara use shinra tensei? No so stfu did madara use soul Dragon? No so stfu apparently it doesn't matter who awakened the rinnegan it depends on the user of the eyes. No one has even used the summons nagato had or his metal arms . And when uchihas transplant eyes the don't have the same powers as the one who awakened the sharigan they had their own powers . Hence why sasuke doesn't have yata mirror or anything even with itachis eyes

Bold. I think your forgetting Kakashi.

The transplanting of Sharingan that gives the user EMS doesn't equal Rinnegan.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Bold. I think your forgetting Kakashi.

The transplanting of Sharingan that gives the user EMS doesn't equal Rinnegan.

Kakashi had a different power tho his kamui was different he couldn't phase either also he had the copy effect kakashi unlocked different powers 2

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Did madara use shinra tensei? No so stfu did madara use soul Dragon? No so stfu apparently it doesn't matter who awakened the rinnegan it depends on the user of the eyes. No one has even used the summons nagato had or his metal arms . And when uchihas transplant eyes the don't have the same powers as the one who awakened the sharigan they had their own powers . Hence why sasuke doesn't have yata mirror or anything even with itachis eyes

Who cares if he didn't use Shinra Tensei? That doesn't mean he can't use it when/if he wants. And who cares if he didn't use Soul Dragon? And what the f*** is "soul dragon"? Human Path? Okay, but same argument. Doesn't mean he can't if he wishes.

How does it depend on the user? Eyes have the power, not the user. This ain't the Byakugan, kid. It's Rinnegan, the power of which lies in the eyes. And of course who awakened the Rinnegan matters. Because only the original owner has access to the full power of the eyes.

And again, it doesn't matter who used what or who didn't. If Nagato could do it with Madara's Rinnegan, so can Madara who had access to its complete power and range of abilities.

@bold This statement contradict with your argument, buddy. You don't know what you're talking about.

And the reason why Sasuke doesn't have Itachi's powers is because sibling's eyes don't give you power, they only enhanced your existing power. Sasuke own powers were upgraded using Itachi's eyes, he didn't receive any of Itachi's powers. He had Amaterasu only because it was HIS power. He didn't have Tsukuyomi, Totsuka and Yata.

 

[Styles]

Nagato can only use shinra tensei sasuke has ameno madara has limbo

Shinra tensei is a path jutsu it's not unique to Nagato it's a six path jutsu.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Who cares if he didn't use Shinra Tensei? That doesn't mean he can't use it when/if he wants. And who cares if he didn't use Soul Dragon? And what the f*** is "soul dragon"? Human Path? Okay, but same argument. Doesn't mean he can't if he wishes.

How does it depend on the user? Eyes have the power, not the user. This ain't the Byakugan, kid. It's Rinnegan, the power of which lies in the eyes. And of course who awakened the Rinnegan matters. Because only the original owner has access to the full power of the eyes.

And again, it doesn't matter who used what or who didn't. If Nagato could do it with Madara's Rinnegan, so can Madara who had access to its complete power and range of abilities.

@bold This statement contradict with your argument, buddy. You don't know what you're talking about.

And the reason why Sasuke doesn't have Itachi's powers is because sibling's eyes don't give you power, they only enhanced your existing power. Sasuke own powers were upgraded using Itachi's eyes, he didn't receive any of Itachi's powers. He had Amaterasu only because it was HIS power. He didn't have Tsukuyomi, Totsuka and Yata.

Dude I know the siblings eyes give u more power what I'm saying is just because u have their eyes doesn't mean u get their moves and why wouldn't madara use shinra tensei if he could wouldn't it have helped against Naruto and sasuke? And soul Dragon is what nagato used on hanzo 's men those are op jutsus why wouldn't madara or sasuke use them if they could I'm jus saying if they haven't shown it they can't use it I'm not goin off assumptions because again like I said u have to give Naruto all sage mode techs like Jiraiya had including sound genjutsu and more but he hasn't shown it so he doesn't have it it's simple dude

 

[Liquid Snake]

Shinra tensei is a path jutsu it's not unique to Nagato it's a six path jutsu.

Limbo and ameno are also but madara never seen ameno b4 even with his immense knowledge of jutsus shinra tensei is unique to nagato because he's the only one to use it

 

[MrLukyso]

Madara used Preta Path and Chibaku. U_U

Nagato is using Madara's eyes and Madara's power, everything he can do Madara can do much better, it's just plot restrictions, and + Madara has much stronger Jutsus like PS, Meteorites, Limbo and etc.. U_U

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Dude I know the siblings eyes give u more power what I'm saying is just because u have their eyes doesn't mean u get their moves

Firstly, Sharingan is different from Rinnegan (in case of EMS). Implanted Sharingan and MS gives the eyes abilities as well, just like Rinnegan does.

Secondly, what you're providing as a correspondence is completely irrelevant because we're talking about Madara taking back his eyes, not Nagato taking Madara's eyes. Nagato is not the original owner of those eyes, Madara is. So Nagato taking his eyes could lose some powers. Madara taking back his eyes won't. This argument could be valid if we were talking about Limbo since Madara's eyes were implanted in Nagato, not the other way around.

and why wouldn't madara use shinra tensei if he could wouldn't it have helped against Naruto and sasuke?

Why you ask? Because maybe he couldn't use them with only one eye. And he was transformed into Kaguya soon after getting two eyes so he didn't get any time to display it.

And soul Dragon is what nagato used on hanzo 's men those are op jutsus why wouldn't madara or sasuke use them

Soul Dragon came from Gedo Mezo. And that was inside Madara's body as the tailed beasts container.

if they could I'm jus saying if they haven't shown it they can't use it I'm not goin off assumptions because again like I said u have to give Naruto all sage mode techs like Jiraiya had including sound genjutsu and more but he hasn't shown it so he doesn't have it it's simple dude

You actually gave a good example, so I'm reversing it back at you. Just because Naruto didn't show Sound Genjutsu, does that mean he can't? No, obviously he can. All he needs is to merge those toads. So just because someone didn't use any ability doesn't mean they can't. Rinnegan has a vast arsenal of abilities, not all of them can be portrayed including the new ones.

 

[Styles]

Limbo and ameno are also but madara never seen ameno b4 even with his immense knowledge of jutsus shinra tensei is unique to nagato because he's the only one to use it

That's not unique to Nagato it's a six paths jutsu. You can't have a unique jutsu from an implanted Rinnegan. If that's the case then animal path is unique to Nagato only too.