[VS] BSM Naruto vs None Jin revived Madara

[KCMNaruto]

Location: Juubi arc battlefield
Intel: Full (Naruto knows about Limbo)
Restrictions: Gedo Mazou
Distance: 50 meters
Intent: Kill

Scenario 1: Half Kurama BSM Naruto vs One-RG Madara (No SM)
Scenario 2: Half Kurama BSM Naruto vs One-RG SM Madara
Scenario 3: Complete Kurama BSM Naruto(The last the movie) vs One-RG SM Madara
Scneario 4: Complete Kurama BSM Naruto(The last the movie) vs Double RG Madara(no SM)
Scenario 5: Complete Kurama BSM Naruto(The last the movie) vs Double RG SM Madara

If Naruto still looses then give him ability to sense Limbo, only this NOT all power of six paths sage mode or NOT Senjutsu of six paths

Who takes this hard battle ?

 

[Bronze]

Rinne Tensei Madara > Edo Madara > EMS Madara > BSM Naruto > BM Naruto.

 

[Xlad]

Location: Juubi arc battlefield
Intel: Full (Naruto knows about Limbo)
Restrictions: Gedo Mazou
Distance: 50 meters
Intent: Kill

Scenario 1: Half Kurama BSM Naruto vs One-RG Madara (No SM)
Scenario 2: Half Kurama BSM Naruto vs One-RG SM Madara
Scenario 3: Complete Kurama BSM Naruto(The last the movie) vs One-RG SM Madara
Scneario 4: Complete Kurama BSM Naruto(The last the movie) vs Double RG Madara(no SM)
Scenario 5: Complete Kurama BSM Naruto(The last the movie) vs Double RG SM Madara

If Naruto still looses then give him ability to sense Limbo, only this NOT all power of six paths sage mode or NOT Senjutsu of six paths

Who takes this hard battle ?

I say Naruto in both scenarios. Madara's biggest advantages are Limbos. But since they aren't Six Paths-enhanced, they aren't be as fast or powerful as Juudara's Limbos (even if SM enhanced). Naruto can sense them and block and subdue them since he was able to track and hit V2 Juubito. Madara was only noted to be far superior to Juubito when he was a Juubi Jin. So no reason to believe that Naruto couldn't handle this Madara. Plus, he took in an attack (Juubi's laser) far more powerful than PS's sword slashes and has more destructive feats enough to breach PS, which is Madara's strongest technique.

Bold: Scenarios are immeasurable for me.

 

[Transcendence]

Rinne Tensei Madara > Edo Madara > EMS Madara > BSM Naruto > BM Naruto.

Clowns will be clowns.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Rinne Tensei One RG SM Madara >= Half Kurama BSM Naruto > Edo Madara >= BM Naruto > EMS Madara.

^^ fixed for you

I say Naruto in both scenarios. Madara's biggest advantages are Limbos. But since they aren't Six Paths-enhanced, they aren't be as fast or powerful as Juudara's Limbos (even if SM enhanced). Naruto can sense them and block and subdue them since he was able to track and hit V2 Juubito. Madara was only noted to be far superior to Juubito when he was a Juubi Jin. So no reason to believe that Naruto couldn't handle this Madara. Plus, he took in an attack (Juubi's laser) far more powerful than PS's sword slashes and has more destructive feats enough to breach PS, which is Madara's strongest technique.

Bold: Scenarios are immeasurable for me.

Yeah, I concur

Ah, sorry I thought that from this leaked 11 minutes long clip of the last the movie, you can gauge Complete BSM Naruto power...

 

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Naruto wins 1 and 3. Madara can win 2 if he gets Shin Senju. Can't tell how the other scenarios would go.

BSM Naruto > BM Naruto > Edo Madara > EMS Madara

 

[Bronze]

^^ fixed for you

You wish.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Naruto wins 1 and 3. Madara can win 2 if he gets Shin Senju. Can't tell how the other scenarios would go.

BSM Naruto > BM Naruto > Edo Madara > EMS Madara

thanks and yeah I could see that the same way

 

[KidGamer65]

Scenario 1: Half Kurama BSM Naruto vs One-RG Madara (No SM)

Naruto loses. Limbo smacks him around and Gedo applies the chain.

Scenario 2: Half Kurama BSM Naruto vs One-RG SM Madara

Same as above, or this time SS takes him out, assuming Madara can use it.

Scenario 3: Complete Kurama BSM Naruto(The last the movie) vs One-RG SM Madara

Same.

Scneario 4: Complete Kurama BSM Naruto(The last the movie) vs Double RG Madara(no SM)
Scenario 5: Complete Kurama BSM Naruto(The last the movie) vs Double RG SM Madara

Same. The fact he can't see Limbo means he can't counter it, and that means Madara will be able to apply the Gedo Chain 100% of the time. Give him the ability to sense Limbo though:

Naruto wins S1.

Loses S2.

Stomps S1:

Wins S2 and S3.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Naruto loses. Limbo smacks him around and Gedo applies the chain.

^^ wouldn't lack of SM makes difference in how heavy blows from Limbo are ?, I mean let' say limbo still is not seen or not sensed but if does not pack as much punch as with SM then it wouldn't be game over for Naruto. Having int about Gedo Naruto can try to escape this or attack from distance...

Same as above, or this time SS takes him out, assuming Madara can use it.

^^ Well not gonna argue with this. although one Limbo I am not sure it would enough...

Same.

^^ I do not get it you said same as below latter one put Naruto stomps Scenario 3, what the hell that mean ?
Anyway I lean more towards Naruto's victory.

Same. The fact he can't see Limbo means he can't counter it, and that means Madara will be able to apply the Gedo Chain 100% of the time. Give him the ability to sense Limbo though:

However Complete Kurama BSM Naruto should be much more durable and arguably faster. Couldn't Naruto escape from it's grip if caught I wonder...

Naruto wins S1.

Loses S2.

Stomps S1:

Wins S2 and S3.

What why didn you use S1 two times and S2 too lol

Did you mean

Stomps: S3

Wins S4 and S5 ?

 

[KCN]

What is the difference between Manga BSM Naruto and Movie BSM Naruto?

 

[KidGamer65]

^^ wouldn't lack of SM makes difference in how heavy blows from Limbo are ?, I mean let' say limbo still is not seen or not sensed but if does not pack as much punch as with SM then it wouldn't be game over for Naruto. Having int about Gedo Naruto can try to escape this or attack from distance...

Yeah, it wouldn't pack as much of a punch.

^^ Well not gonna argue with this. although one Limbo I am not sure it would enough...

It smacked around the Avatar, what's changed?

^^ I do not get it you said same as below latter one put Naruto stomps Scenario 3, what the hell that mean ?
Anyway I lean more towards Naruto's victory.

Without the ability to sense Limbo, Naruto loses S3, with it, he wins.

However Complete Kurama BSM Naruto should be much more durable and arguably faster. Couldn't Naruto escape from it's grip if caught I wonder...

Lol, manga already made it pretty clear that if a Bijuu gets caught there is no escaping.

What why didn you use S1 two times and S2 too lol

Did you mean

Stomps: S3

Wins S4 and S5 ?

Lol, this is what I meant.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

thanks and yeah I could see that the same way

Why do understamate EMS Madara and Edo Madara so much? EMS Madara unstabilised PS tanked a Bijuu bomb from Kurama like nothing and half of it was destroyed by SM Hashirama most powerful tech! Edo Madara with regular Wood dragon put BM Naruto down without trying... Imagine wood dragon with SM would be stronger too. Also Edo Madara's PS was destroyed by Juubito's 4 charged Juubi Dama. Has BSM Naruto power like that to destroy Edo Madara's PS? BSM Naruto is powerful but Madara has the techs to put him down.

 

[KCMNaruto]

What is the difference between Manga BSM Naruto and Movie BSM Naruto?

In the last the movie Naruto has complete Kurama, so 100% Kurama mode(databook IV name for BM) Naruto or Complete Kurama mode- that is the name of it.

while in manga (Half/Incomplete) Kurama mode Naruto

Yeah, it wouldn't pack as much of a punch.

It smacked around the Avatar, what's changed?

Without the ability to sense Limbo, Naruto loses S3, with it, he wins.

Lol, manga already made it pretty clear that if a Bijuu gets caught there is no escaping.

Lol, this is what I meant.

so in S1 Naruto would have chance right ?, not saying he win from get go with no problem as this would be bullshit.

S2 ok, but bijuu were staying in one place, Could Naruto do the same, aslo Naruto is much faster then Tailed beasts and as much smaller object especially in human form Kurama mode...

S3 yeah, Really ? wouldn't Complete Kurama mode be more durable and actually tank them taking no lethal damage so he could blitz Madara and end him as Gedo Mazou is restricted here ?

@ bold part, do you mean Limbo or Gedo mazou outerpath chains ?, if latter one it is restricted.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol........I just realized that Gedo Mazo is restricted in every scenario. Let's try this again.

Scenario 1: Half Kurama BSM Naruto vs One-RG Madara (No SM)

Naruto wins mid diff. SM greatly increases Madara's, and thus the clone's, physical strength. Pretty sure Base Madara can't smack around a Bijuu, so Limbo is tanked and Madara is wiped off the map with Bijuu Dama barrage.

Scenario 2: Half Kurama BSM Naruto vs One-RG SM Madara

Madara wins since SS can take Naruto out. Mid-High diff. Limbo being accessible only makes it easier, since SM Madara's Limbo can smack Naruto around.

Scenario 3: Complete Kurama BSM Naruto(The last the movie) vs One-RG SM Madara

Naruto stomps. SS can't take out War Arc Full Kurama BSM Naruto. (if it happened) The Last Naruto is stronger than the Naruto in the manga, so apply that BSM boost and you come the conclusion that Madara stands no chance, at all.

Scneario 4: Complete Kurama BSM Naruto(The last the movie) vs Double RG Madara(no SM)

Naruto wins.

Scenario 5: Complete Kurama BSM Naruto(The last the movie) vs Double RG SM Madara

Naruto wins again.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Why do understamate EMS Madara and Edo Madara so much? EMS Madara unstabilised PS tanked a Bijuu bomb from Kurama like nothing and half of it was destroyed by SM Hashirama most powerful tech! Edo Madara with regular Wood dragon put BM Naruto down without trying... Imagine wood dragon with SM would be stronger too. Also Edo Madara's PS was destroyed by Juubito's 4 charged Juubi Dama. Has BSM Naruto power like that to destroy Edo Madara's PS? BSM Naruto is powerful but Madara has the techs to put him down.

@ bold part, Simple: Perfect Jinchurki use of Tailed beasts > Jinchurki full potential use of Tailed beasts > Full potential use of free roaming Tailed beasts.

That considering + Naruto's mobility > giant beasts makes Naruto formidable enemy and BM Naruto is capable of beating down EMS Madara.

Edo Madara didn't put Naruto down for long in the end, as Naruto created clones which escaped and with sunshin speed would actually force Madara to cancel it or caught him off guard.

Yeah but Edo Madara can not absorb SM and get profits from it as edo body removes any effect added to it.
That doesn't mean anything with less of force could not accomplish the same.

Nope, but BSM Naruto massive charged Senjutsu TBB make Juubi Jin Obito shit in pants and forcing to bring God Tree, it shows that Obito treated Naruto as serious danger to him.

and Juubi jin Obito v2 > anything less then double RG SM none Jin alive Madara

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

@ bold part, Simple: Perfect Jinchurki use of Tailed beasts > Jinchurki full potential use of Tailed beasts > Full potential use of free roaming Tailed beasts.

That considering + Naruto's mobility > giant beasts makes Naruto formidable enemy and BM Naruto is capable of beating down EMS Madara.

Edo Madara didn't put Naruto down for long in the end, as Naruto created clones which escaped and with sunshin speed would actually force Madara to cancel it or caught him off guard.

Yeah but Edo Madara can not absorb SM and get profits from it as edo body removes any effect added to it.
That doesn't mean anything with less of force could not accomplish the same.

Nope, but BSM Naruto massive charged Senjutsu TBB make Juubi Jin Obito shit in pants and forcing to bring God Tree, it shows that Obito treated Naruto as serious danger to him.

and Juubi jin Obito v2 > anything less then double RG SM none Jin alive Madara

I understand what you say about the Bijuu bomb but PS defences are no joke! As for what you said about the Wood dragon Gai stopped him because he used Hindora and Madara was pushed and lost control of mokuton.

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Mokuton is quite handy against BM Naruto. And Madara has reacted against BM Naruto speed. He can also make Mokuton clones.
Juubito was worried because a Bijuu Bomb with senjutsu could hurt him. Juubito's durability is not greater than PS's. A directed him from the bomb could be dangerous and he didn't have the time to do anything else but to call the God Tree. His Gudoma may not be enough to withstand the senjutsu bomb too. Again Juubito's firepower >> BSM Naruto's. And this is about BSM Naruto and Edo Madara and not about Madara and Juubito. (I just said about Juubito's firepower and it's destructive capabilities and compared them to BSM Naruto's)

 

[KCMNaruto]

I understand what you say about the Bijuu bomb but PS defences are no joke! As for what you said about the Wood dragon Gai stopped him because he used Hindora and Madara was pushed and lost control of mokuton.

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Mokuton is quite handy against BM Naruto. And Madara has reacted against BM Naruto speed. He can also make Mokuton clones.

Ok, sure the grip of the Mokuton techniques loosen after Madara was taken out by Gai's Hirudora, but even before that Naruto managed to make two BM Naruto clones which are capable of blizting Edo Madara with sunshin speed.

Actually Edo Madara only managed to react to no sunshin BM naruto's speed and BM naruto's clone jumping at him from above.

Sure Madara can counter Naruto's clones with wood clones but If Naruto make it as in the manga then Madara may be caught off guard and met unpleasant wake up blow.

Juubito was worried because a Bijuu Bomb with senjutsu could hurt him. Juubito's durability is not greater than PS's. A directed him from the bomb could be dangerous and he didn't have the time to do anything else but to call the God Tree. His Gudoma may not be enough to withstand the senjutsu bomb too. Again Juubito's firepower >> BSM Naruto's. And this is about BSM Naruto and Edo Madara and not about Madara and Juubito. (I just said about Juubito's firepower and it's destructive capabilities and compared them to BSM Naruto's)

Truth, althoigh not sure about Juubito'durability not being greater then PS...

Of course Juubito's fire power > BSM Naruto's fire power, I am not even doubting it.
Exactly.

Well as I said, Naruto making clones almost instantly and make them use sunshin speed would be very had trick to Edo Madara to find way around or find counter to it.

 

[Kenjamin Bing]

In order to surpass Madara, you need exact powers like Hagoromo. Madara's power:

Possess Indra's Chakra and Ashura's Chakra = Hagoromo's Chakra.
The original wielder of the Rinnegan and only he can access to its full potential.


Madara wins low diff.

 

[KCMNaruto]

In order to surpass Madara, you need exact powers like Hagoromo. Madara's power:

Possess Indra's Chakra and Ashura's Chakra = Hagoromo's Chakra.
The original wielder of the Rinnegan and only he can access to its full potential.

Madara wins low diff.

Madara is in NO Jin state, so please bother to read before posting next time.

Yeah Original Wielder of the Rinnegan is powerfull, but so is Kurama and especially Complete Kurama as Sage of six paths put big emphasis at both of them.

Actually they seems equal by portreyal:

Kurama- the biggest but still weaker part of Ten tails's body power
Rinnegan- The biggest but still weaker part of Ten tails's eye power