BSM Naruto vs Nagato

[KidGamer65]

Then it means he uses Preta Path to absorb Jutsu's and uses separate technique to release. Nowhere in the movie it states he used a separate absorption, so he used Preta Path like all Rinnegan users.

They are the same technique. :lol The movie doesn't distinguish between his jutsu. If you want to prove there are two jutsu I'll just sit right here and wait for you to do so. I'll also wait for you to show me any Preta Path user absorbing:

-People (Kinshiki)
-Shadow Clones.
-Shadow Techniques (Nara Clan)

All being sucked into the eye itself and not the body or a barrier made by the technique. Please get me some proof this time, cause your assumptions aren't cutting it.

Your logic:

-Momoshiki uses an absorption technique that aesthetically has no similarities with Preta Path, and technically has more capabilities than Preta PAth.

-He must be using Preta Path.

:lol Logic. Then we have the fact there's no reason Preta Path wouldn't work if only one of his eyes were stabbed, but in the movie one eye was stabbed and his absorption was rendered useless. But of course you didn't watch the movie so you wouldn't know what you were talking about anyway.

You sound very salty here.

Well, for starters, the manga doesn't say anything; the character does. You need to differentiate between manga and character.

The character is in the Manga. The character is informed on Nagato's abilities, more informed than you are obviously considering this is still going on. No reason for Kishimoto to throw that in there for it to be a lie when you can't bring a single piece of evidence to actually prove your point. That's what the rest of this nonsensical post below me is.

-Obito knows Nagato's abilities.
-Obito said his binding is stronger.
-Nothing in the Manga contradicts that statement or even lets you hint at the opposite.
-Thus Nagato doesn't get Obito's feats and he gets the feats that he's proven to be capable of performing. How hard is this to understand? Am I typing in a foreign text? Or are you just not capable of comprehending something this simple?

There is nothing more than that. Don't type paragraphs of text if in the end it all amounts to nothing.

What official proof that Nagato can use Chakra Chains on Obito's level? There are sufficient proofs: Nagato is a superior Rinnegan user than Obito - able to handle two Rinnegan from childhood without any side-effects, whereas Obito self-admitted that he could barely handle one; Nagato is confirmed to be Outer Path user, and Outer Path: Chakra Chains derive from the said Jutsu, means Nagato can use them.

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The Manga disagrees. Don't come here talking about proof when you don't have anything but your words. Get me those panels of Nagato being proven to use these chains and then get back to me.

-Nagato can handle 2 eyes.
-Yet Obito's binding is still stronger.

Naruto can shoot more TBB if he desires to by your premise, but to do that he needs to go to BM, then he gets shot with black rods and Chakra Chains suppressing his Biju's power, rendering it useless.

Addressed. Typical NB member tbh. Couldn't read the Manga even if it was to save your life.

 

[LoZelda101]

I don't get why everyone forgets about human path. Forget chibaku tensei, randomly calling it the strongest jutsu of Nagato's, human path is the real deal. Since it appears to drain power.

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As it apparently takes "power" to the point where KCM Naruto can't overpower Nagato (he should be able to), I think that's a real threat. I think Nagato could win if he can grab Naruto which shouldn't be hard, but this is Naruto with SM as well. That means he will be able to sense the invisible animal summon this time around. I feel like if grabbed, he wouldn't have many options to get out of it since Nagato has all of the paths in him. He can negate with deva path or absorb with preta (obviously not too much SM chakra). What about the soul-stealing instant-death jutsu Nagato used against Hanzo?

I think that the odds are in Naruto's favor overall because he has speed and awesome sensory in this form, not to mention a Kurama avatar and by extension, the bijuu bomb. He will for sure be able to get out of CT if Nagato has not learned from his past mistake and does not "just make it bigger" like he stated he could previously. I do however believe Nagato is a greater threat than some will have you believe. Answers shouldn't come down to "can he break out of CT" because that's not all that's in his arsenal.

would never work on naruto again, the only reason it did the first time is because he lacked intel of it and he rushed at nagato because he thought his limitations were the same as his peins. plus like you said, it required a his invisible salamander thingy to capture and hold naruto in place to proceed with his human path. I can't see that happening again against naruto, regardless which form he's in. plus, him being able to resist and pull back his soul like that, I wonder what would happen if he tried that with full kurama mode.

 

[Edogawa]

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You sound very salty, kiddy. I'll just let you think that if you want. I have other things to do than argue with buffoon . Later

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[LoZelda101]

They are the same technique. :lol The movie doesn't distinguish between his jutsu. If you want to prove there are two jutsu I'll just sit right here and wait for you to do so. I'll also wait for you to show me any Preta Path user absorbing:

-People (Kinshiki)
-Shadow Clones.
-Shadow Techniques (Nara Clan)

All being sucked into the eye itself and not the body or a barrier made by the technique. Please get me some proof this time, cause your assumptions aren't cutting it.

Your logic:

-Momoshiki uses an absorption technique that aesthetically has no similarities with Preta Path, and technically has more capabilities than Preta PAth.

-He must be using Preta Path.

:lol Logic. Then we have the fact there's no reason Preta Path wouldn't work if only one of his eyes were stabbed, but in the movie one eye was stabbed and his absorption was rendered useless. But of course you didn't watch the movie so you wouldn't know what you were talking about anyway.




The character is in the Manga. The character is informed on Nagato's abilities, more informed than you are obviously considering this is still going on. No reason for Kishimoto to throw that in there for it to be a lie when you can't bring a single piece of evidence to actually prove your point. That's what the rest of this nonsensical post below me is.

-Obito knows Nagato's abilities.
-Obito said his binding is stronger.
-Nothing in the Manga contradicts that statement or even lets you hint at the opposite.
-Thus Nagato doesn't get Obito's feats and he gets the feats that he's proven to be capable of performing. How hard is this to understand? Am I typing in a foreign text? Or are you just not capable of comprehending something this simple?

There is nothing more than that. Don't type paragraphs of text if in the end it all amounts to nothing.

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The Manga disagrees. Don't come here talking about proof when you don't have anything but your words. Get me those panels of Nagato being proven to use these chains and then get back to me.

-Nagato can handle 2 eyes.
-Yet Obito's binding is still stronger.



Addressed. Typical NB member tbh. Couldn't read the Manga even if it was to save your life.

hey, can you clean up your PM space so i can ask a private debate question.

 

[TheSages456]

Nagato probably wins and on what scale one thinks that Preta path's abilities can operate changes the difficulty.

Preta path could serve as a counter to standard Bijudama, but Shinra tensei would blow it back into Naruto's direction damaging him instead, making it a better counter here.

I don't think that Kurama has a way to put down Cerebrus either unless it launches it away from the battlefield with a super charged Bijudama, otherwise Cerebrus will just keep multiplying from the damage that Kurama gives it.
Naruto can summon Gamabunta or Gamakichi to try to stall them, but Nagato can just counter with more summons or one shot one Shinra tensei like he already did prior, or blow them away with Asura path's missles.

When it comes to counter a super charged Bijudama, Nagato can just counter with CT.
The gravity would pull Naruto and his Bijudama towards the core, effectively making him nuke himself with his own Bijudama.

 

[KidGamer65]

hey, can you clean up your PM space so i can ask a private debate question.

Aight. No problem.

You sound very salty, kiddy. I'll just let you think that if you want. I have other things to do than argue with buffoon . Later

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Thanks for saving my brain cells you ingrate.

 

[Kyle storm]

Aight. No problem.



Thanks for saving my brain cells you ingrate.

Lol , way to go man , you destroyed his argument .