[VS] BSM Naruto vs Hashirama

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S1- This is Last Naruto with Full Kurama but obviously I am excluding any Rikudo or other Bijuu Influence.

S2- Same as S1 but this 700 Adult Naruto with Shunshin no Jutsu(That thing he used to get to Bolt)

Location - V.O.T.E
Intel - Manga

IMO Naruto wins S2. He and his clones can quickly teleport to Hashirama and bash his skull with a Rasengan.

Not sure about S1 though.
 
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Naruto was already near Hashirama's level as a teenager with 50% Kurama. 2 years of training plus the other half of Kurama means he stomps Hashirama. Btw, your second scenario is erroneous, as Naruto used nothing more than ordinary shunshin speed to get to Bolt. He obviously wins 2 as well.
 
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Naruto was already near Hashirama's level as a teenager with 50% Kurama. 2 years of training plus the other half of Kurama means he stomps Hashirama. Btw, your second scenario is erroneous, as Naruto used nothing more than ordinary shunshin speed to get to Bolt. He obviously wins 2 as well.

Oh really? Damn I thought it was some FTG type thing but without Kunai
 

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War-Arc BM Naruto surpassed Hashirama in my eyes. This Naruto should be a good deal stronger than that one.

Hashirama has never been shown fighting someone with his speed, and while he's dealt with TBBs before, if Kurama just keeps firing them at him he's not got much of a chance(not sure he has the feats to catch Naruto and restrain Kurama's abilities, either), and if nothing else, Naruto summons Fukasaku and Shima and Gama Rinsho ends it as Naruto/Kurama buys them time.
 

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Lol at war arc BM Naruto surpassing Hashirama

Ot- The last Naruto stomps
 

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Hashirama has no answer for his speed or Kurama spamming TBBs. He would get overwhelmed.

Shinsuusenju catches any TBB and deflects it back genius. It's not rocket science. BM Naruto isn't getting past SS.
 

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Shinsuusenju catches any TBB and deflects it back genius. It's not rocket science. BM Naruto isn't getting past SS.

Exactly. If Wood golem in base could catch, the Buddha which is tiers above it, should be able to catch several. That and chojo kebutsu would break through Naruto's avatar. Although, I believe Hashirama would lose to war arc BSM Naruto without SS.
 

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Exactly. If Wood golem in base could catch, the Buddha which is tiers above it, should be able to catch several. That and chojo kebutsu would break through Naruto's avatar. Although, I believe Hashirama would lose to war arc BSM Naruto without SS.

Yup. Hashirama needs SS to win, but it's a win nonetheless.
 

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Shinsuusenju catches any TBB and deflects it back genius. It's not rocket science. BM Naruto isn't getting past SS.

The Shinsuusenju that has..what speed/reaction feats that is going to allow it to react to Naruto's attacks? Or prevent Naruto from just attacking Hashirama(who also lacks any feats to deal with that kind of speed) before the arms can even do anything?

The arms of it aren't indestructible, and with Naruto's speed, he could easily get behind the slow statue and attack it before it even knew what hit it.

And again, this isn't even using any of Naruto's SM feats or any assistance from Fukasaku/Shima, who again, given protection long enough, just ends this with Gama Rinsho.
 

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The Shinsuusenju that has..what speed/reaction feats that is going to allow it to react to Naruto's attacks? Or prevent Naruto from just attacking Hashirama(who also lacks any feats to deal with that kind of speed) before the arms can even do anything?

The arms of it aren't indestructible, and with Naruto's speed, he could easily get behind the slow statue and attack it before it even knew what hit it.

And again, this isn't even using any of Naruto's SM feats or any assistance from Fukasaku/Shima, who again, given protection long enough, just ends this with Gama Rinsho.

Oh for crying out loud Lol

Mokujin already caught a TBB that was fired right in front of Hashirama, and Hashirama created it near instantly from Jukai kotan

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That same Mokujin sits at the head of SS which completely dwarfs 100% Kurama which is bigger than BM Naruto's avatar. The sizes of the hands are considerably larger than Mokujin's as well

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And nice try, but no getting behind the statue isn't going to do shit because its backpack of arms are located in the rear. So any TBB is useless. Chojo Kebetsu will plow through Kurama avatar and kill Naruto.

Summoning Ma and Pa will be a waste of time, how the hell will Hashirama hear Frog Song when he sits hundreds pf miles in the sky? Haven't even mentioned FTW, Hotel hands, wood dragon and Gracious Deity Gates.

Don't know why you're trying to argue BM Naruto is getting past SS, its really sort of ridiculous.
 

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Oh for crying out loud Lol

Mokujin already caught a TBB that was fired right in front of Hashirama, and Hashirama created it near instantly from Jukai kotan

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That same Mokujin sits at the head of SS which completely dwarfs 100% Kurama which is bigger than BM Naruto's avatar. The sizes of the hands are considerably larger than Mokujin's as well

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Yes, he caught a TBB. I'm not arguing he lacks the ability to stop the TBBs themselves, I'm arguing he lacks the abilities to stop rapid fire TBBs coming from someone going Naruto's speed. He doesn't have the reaction feats for it.

And nice try, but no getting behind the statue isn't going to do shit because its backpack of arms are located in the rear. So any TBB is useless. Chojo Kebetsu will plow through Kurama avatar and kill Naruto.

Well yes, the point is attacking the arms from behind and destroying them before they can react.

You want to explain to me how Chojo Kebetsu is touching someone of Naruto's speed. It's only feat is hitting Madara's susanoo which wasn't even trying to get away. Naruto moves way too fast to be touched by that.

Summoning Ma and Pa will be a waste of time, how the hell will Hashirama hear Frog Song when he sits hundreds pf miles in the sky? Haven't even mentioned FTW, Hotel hands, wood dragon and Gracious Deity Gates.

Don't know why you're trying to argue BM Naruto is getting past SS, its really sort of ridiculous.

Hundred miles in the sky...I'll just hope you're exaggerating with that.

All that has to happen for Gama Rinsho to hit is him be in range to so much as slightly hear it.

The "Toad Confrontation Chant" only has to reach the target's sense of hearing to be a success

Really the only argument I even have to make here is Naruto just dodges around while Fukasaku and Shima prep, then it's over. Hashirama has no feats that can catch him. So really, I don't have to argue against SS, though it's a rather featless jutsu at this point, in terms of being able to combat someone like BM Naruto.
 

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Hashirama defeats War Arc BSM Naruto with med high diff. Dunno about the last. Still did not watched it.
 

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Yes, he caught a TBB. I'm not arguing he lacks the ability to stop the TBBs themselves, I'm arguing he lacks the abilities to stop rapid fire TBBs coming from someone going Naruto's speed. He doesn't have the reaction feats for it

1. Naruto's Shunshin speed is irrelevant for obvious reasons. He can't use his Shunshin while he's in his BM Avatar, nor will his Shunshin speed magically increase the speed of his Bijuu Dama. So they all get caught as they won't be moving any faster than the one he caught in canon.

2. BM Naruto's speed is nothing special here. EMS Sasuke tracked Juubito, who is far far faster than Naruto, and reacted to him with his Susanoo, and forced him to block instead of evading. EMS Madara is at least equal to Sasuke in the reaction speed department, and Hashirama is on par with Madara in Base let alone Sage Mode. He'd track Naruto's speed and easily tag him with Shinsuusenju, which is a physically superior construct to the Sage Kurama Avatar or Senjutsu Susanoo.



Well yes, the point is attacking the arms from behind and destroying them before they can react.

That assumes Hashirama sits on his arse and lets Naruto circle behind his construct, either way. The hands span across it's back, so he can't even do that without getting his attacks slapped away or caught.

You want to explain to me how Chojo Kebetsu is touching someone of Naruto's speed. It's only feat is hitting Madara's susanoo which wasn't even trying to get away. Naruto moves way too fast to be touched by that.
You have to explain to me how Naruto's speed even begins to be a factor if he's in Kurama Mode, and I hope you aren't saying he'll take on SS w/o it...either way, his speed is nothing that can't be handled, so it's irrelevant how he comes at SS. He dies either way.


Really the only argument I even have to make here is Naruto just dodges around while Fukasaku and Shima prep, then it's over. Hashirama has no feats that can catch him. So really, I don't have to argue against SS, though it's a rather featless jutsu at this point, in terms of being able to combat someone like BM Naruto.

Your whole argument is nothing but speed wank for Naruto. Lol. It's unrealistic that you think he'll dodge hundreds of hands that span a Mountain ranges distance and all move as fast or faster than Bijuu Dama from Full Kurama, which crossed a lake in a second.

Forget about Ma and Pa. Not only will he not be alive long enough to call them, he won't be alive long enough to get Gama Rinsho off.


OT: Naruto stomps in both scenarios.
 

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Hashirama would stomp War Arc Naruto, not sure about Naruto from The Last. Maybe Hashirama mid to high diff.
 

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BSM naruto wins hands down:

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By clashing with the six bijuus he was able to exert such explosive power that was bigger than SS itself

He deflected six mountain busting ttb's with his bare hand at BM:

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Madara's Susanoo sword+mini size ttb only shot twelve mountain busting ttb's:

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During the fight with Hashirama, Madara was only able to produce little ttb's because he was already using chakra for Susanoo. So to increase its power he added a Susanoo sword to match up to a regular ttb.

Naruto's ttb>>>> Madara's susanoo sword ttb.

A jinchuuriki can use a lot more power

So bsm naruto would pummel that statue head on, even mokuton can't keep stable around bsm naruto because he's so full of life energy.

BSM naruto mid diffs him
 

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Naruto slaughters both scene's.
 

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With 100% Kurama, his power is basically doubled from the manga BSM. Basically, manga BSM would easily equal or surpass Hashirama in sheer firepower (but chakra absorption is still quite the factor), with that doubled, it far surpasses him, enabling Naruto to win.
 
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