[VS] BSM Naruto vs Double MS Obito .

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

BSM Naruto vs Double MS Obito (Poll)

Bijuu Sage Mode Naruto vs Double MS Obito .

Intel : Manga . Naruto knows about his kamui because of Kakashi , Obito knows about his speed and BM as he already fought him in kcm .
Intent :to kill
Location valley of death , only restrictions are ma&pa .

Who wins ?? Please develop .

 

[TRE MERCER]

Dual Kamui Obito stomps any Naruto bar current.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Damn its crazy how bad Obito sh*ts on this Naruto. BM Naruto was getting neg diff my Obito with a slower kamui and kakashi had a counter to it. if anyone thinks Naruto wins they need to go to emergency room and get checked out to see if they're suffering from the disease: Bulluss Shittus

 

[ARGUS]

Naruto wins this

--He has the sensing skills to sense the chakra built up for obitos long range kamui, and would have enough time to act prior to the warp ,along with his quick speed to evade the warp

--obito still has to manifest physically in-order to attack naruto and with the latter having intel on his kamui,, he can send out many KB (which obito cant decipher) which would outnumber obito and can disrupt his kamui based moveset

--obito is vastly outnumbered here, and the moment he becomes tangible to attack,, he would be attacked by the other KB

--naruto can also prep frog song,

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Naruto wins this

--He has the sensing skills to sense the chakra built up for obitos long range kamui, and would have enough time to act prior to the warp ,along with his quick speed to evade the warp

--obito still has to manifest physically in-order to attack naruto and with the latter having intel on his kamui,, he can send out many KB (which obito cant decipher) which would outnumber obito and can disrupt his kamui based moveset

--obito is vastly outnumbered here, and the moment he becomes tangible to attack,, he would be attacked by the other KB

--naruto can also prep frog song,

if it was that easy, how come naruto couldn't land a valid hit on Obito? I mean, obito had to focus on Gai, Bee, Kakashi and Naruto. Obito has both MS here. naruto loses indefinitely.

 

[ARGUS]

if it was that easy, how come naruto couldn't land a valid hit on Obito? I mean, obito had to focus on Gai, Bee, Kakashi and Naruto. Obito has both MS here. naruto loses indefinitely.

1. Because that naruto was BM,, this iis BSM,, theres a big difference here,, seeing how naruto at that time hhad no sensing skills to act prior to the warp,, not to mention that obito as well failed to warp naruto,,

2. Naruto also had no intel on Obitos kamui throughout most of the battle so your point is already moot there and once they got intel, on his kamui, obito wouldve lost rather easily

3. having both MS doesnt help obito since he still has to become tangible in-order to attack naruto and with the latter now having intel as well as having the right diversions to attack him effectively, and the sensing skills/reflexes to evade the warps,,
obitos dual kamui is countered quite well,

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

1. Because that naruto was BM,, this iis BSM,, theres a big difference here,, seeing how naruto at that time hhad no sensing skills to act prior to the warp,, not to mention that obito as well failed to warp naruto,,

2. Naruto also had no intel on Obitos kamui throughout most of the battle so your point is already moot there and once they got intel, on his kamui, obito wouldve lost rather easily

3. having both MS doesnt help obito since he still has to become tangible in-order to attack naruto and with the latter now having intel as well as having the right diversions to attack him effectively, and the sensing skills/reflexes to evade the warps,,
obitos dual kamui is countered quite well,

1. perhaps, but dual kamui snipe is quicker than kakashi's

2. only success Naruto and the trio had against obito was kakashi attacking him from kamuiland. if there is more, mind to pull up scans?

3. KAMUI SNIPE WAS FAST ENOUGH TO WARP A SUSANOO ARROW POINT BLANK. imagine dual kamui snipe. any rasengan variant gets warped, and clone gets his head warped, ma and pa gets their head warped. don't underestimate Dual Kamui.

 

[ARGUS]

1. perhaps, but dual kamui snipe is quicker than kakashi's

2. only success Naruto and the trio had against obito was kakashi attacking him from kamuiland. if there is more, mind to pull up scans?

3. KAMUI SNIPE WAS FAST ENOUGH TO WARP A SUSANOO ARROW POINT BLANK. imagine dual kamui snipe. any rasengan variant gets warped, and clone gets his head warped, ma and pa gets their head warped. don't underestimate Dual Kamui.

1. Doesnt matter since naruto has the sennsing abilities to sense the chakra built up well before the warp is executed and has more than enough speed to evade it rather easily

2. and that was the moment they recieved intel on obitos kamui,, they also managed to break obitos mask which was right after the moment kakashi found out that obiito has the same jutsu as him

3. susanoo arrow is no way near as fast as even Amaterasu, which V2 A evaded with ease, and KCM Naruto alone was faster than V2 A, now this BM naruto buffed even more with SM,,
naruto can evade alll the warps of kamui and through his KB he will outnumber obito completely,,, and MA&PA would be on narutos shoulders meaning that they would be safe

P.S - I am not underestimating dual kamui, nor am i overrating naruto in this thread,

 

[RustledJimmies]

Lol, wtf ? Obito shits on him.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

1. Doesnt matter since naruto has the sennsing abilities to sense the chakra built up well before the warp is executed and has more than enough speed to evade it rather easily

2. and that was the moment they recieved intel on obitos kamui,, they also managed to break obitos mask which was right after the moment kakashi found out that obiito has the same jutsu as him

3. susanoo arrow is no way near as fast as even Amaterasu, which V2 A evaded with ease, and KCM Naruto alone was faster than V2 A, now this BM naruto buffed even more with SM,,
naruto can evade alll the warps of kamui and through his KB he will outnumber obito completely,,, and MA&PA would be on narutos shoulders meaning that they would be safe

P.S - I am not underestimating dual kamui, nor am i overrating naruto in this thread,

1. Well Obito will be on the defensive side and counter everything Naruto throws at him.

2. Because of kakashi's access to kamui that isn't the problem anymore. so how does naruto even land a hit?

3. proof that which is faster than the other? sasuke could've easily resorted to amaterasu to attack kabuto, but instead he used the arrow, that can indicate that the arrow is faster than amaterasu.
ma & pa are restricted, not that they would be a factor anyway.

 

[ARGUS]

1. Well Obito will be on the defensive side and counter everything Naruto throws at him.

Well, with Obito being on the defensive, (as admitted by you), he doesnnt stand a chance,

--With the clones being able to evade the kamuii warp,, they would not only outnumber him, but the moment obito solidifies to attack (which he cant decipher the KB from real), he is literallly left open for over 10 KB and Naruto to attack,

--@bold - you say counter everything but you havnt given me any counters at all,

2. Because of kakashi's access to kamui that isn't the problem anymore. so how does naruto even land a hit?

--Kakashis kamui is evaded, since Naruto can sense the chakra built up prior to the warp and has more than enough speed and time, to counter the warp,

--naruto has intel now, and with his near FTG level speed along with SM reflexes, that would allow him to counterattack once obito solidifies to attack,, he can also use his KB and create over 10 of them, which would vastly outnumber obito and once he is attacking one of the clones/naruto, the other 10 or so clones would have the opportunity to land hitts on obito,, on top of the fact that obito using short range kamui (right eye) on KB would mean that the clone can attack obito from the other dimension,,,

3. proof that which is faster than the other? sasuke could've easily resorted to amaterasu to attack kabuto, but instead he used the arrow, that can indicate that the arrow is faster than amaterasu.
ma & pa are restricted, not that they would be a factor anyway.

--Sharingan Precog from Kakashi was able to decipher the oncoming susanoo arrow, here is the scan,

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V2 A's linear speed on the other hand was too fast for the sharingan to keep trackk,, which was why sasuke had to resort into using the enton coated susanoo as a shield in-order to prevent himself, here is the scan,,

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i think through this its obvious that amaterasu and V2 A >> Susanoo arrow in terms of speed,

Sasuke used the arrrow because its more effective in damaaging kabuto, that had nothing to do with speed of the two techniques,,
susanoo arrow has the higher DC thats all,, and @Bold - Loll,

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

Well, with Obito being on the defensive, (as admitted by you), he doesnnt stand a chance,

--With the clones being able to evade the kamuii warp,, they would not only outnumber him, but the moment obito solidifies to attack (which he cant decipher the KB from real), he is literallly left open for over 10 KB and Naruto to attack,

--@bold - you say counter everything but you havnt given me any counters at all,

--Kakashis kamui is evaded, since Naruto can sense the chakra built up prior to the warp and has more than enough speed and time, to counter the warp,

--naruto has intel now, and with his near FTG level speed along with SM reflexes, that would allow him to counterattack once obito solidifies to attack,, he can also use his KB and create over 10 of them, which would vastly outnumber obito and once he is attacking one of the clones/naruto, the other 10 or so clones would have the opportunity to land hitts on obito,, on top of the fact that obito using short range kamui (right eye) on KB would mean that the clone can attack obito from the other dimension,,,

--Sharingan Precog from Kakashi was able to decipher the oncoming susanoo arrow, here is the scan,

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V2 A's linear speed on the other hand was too fast for the sharingan to keep trackk,, which was why sasuke had to resort into using the enton coated susanoo as a shield in-order to prevent himself, here is the scan,,

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i think through this its obvious that amaterasu and V2 A >> Susanoo arrow in terms of speed,

Sasuke used the arrrow because its more effective in damaaging kabuto, that had nothing to do with speed of the two techniques,,
susanoo arrow has the higher DC thats all,, and @Bold - Loll,

Truly Interesting . BSM is indeed a beast.

 

[KCMNaruto]

First, I assume it is Obito with full mastery over both Kamui techniques + possesing Senjuu DNA.

If Naruto has no time limit on lasting while in BSM and both have intel on each other then I will see draw.

Naruto can sense any chakra build up in Obito's eyes before he attempt to execute long range Kamui to try to snipe Naruto's head or neck... Also Obito has NO Rinnegan this time so no for BINDING CHAINS CHAKRA which was usefull for Obito against BM Naruto and Killer bee.

If Obito try to warp him from close range then Naruto will sidestep or dodge using super enhanced reflex.

Only intangibility is ability of Obito from his eyes which is very hard for BSM Naruto to pass or go around it. Assuming Obito will act in time then Naruto will have really hard time to impossible to land blow on Obito unless he used perfectly Frog Katas or other attacks infused with nature energy.

If Naruto has time limit in BSM then Naruto looses. Anyway it won't be stomp in Obito's favour but mid diff at least.

 

[Mr SwizZz]

@KCMNaruto
Why would Obito have Hashi DNA? He only has 2x Kamui which, because of not having Hashi dna he cant spam forever.

Whereas Naruto(with Kurama) has amount of chakra comparable to Hashirama's and considering nature energy as well, almost infinite.


Even tough he is faster than full powered Ay in only kcm, i doubt he has the speed of FTG, that is a s/t ninjutsu after all.

In the end BSM takes a dump on Obito's face and his double MS.
Kamui snipe not very useful since Naruto can evade it, Obito's attack moves are basically restricted at this point.
Only obstacle will be Obito's intangibility which can be countered with clones and considering Naruto's destruction power in BSM...gg

 

[KCMNaruto]

@KCMNaruto
Why would Obito have Hashi DNA? He only has 2x Kamui which, because of not having Hashi dna he cant spam forever.

Whereas Naruto(with Kurama) has amount of chakra comparable to Hashirama's and considering nature energy as well, almost infinite.


Even tough he is faster than full powered Ay in only kcm, i doubt he has the speed of FTG, that is a s/t ninjutsu after all.

In the end BSM takes a dump on Obito's face and his double MS.
Kamui snipe not very useful since Naruto can evade it, Obito's attack moves are basically restricted at this point.
Only obstacle will be Obito's intangibility which can be countered with clones and considering Naruto's destruction power in BSM...gg

To answer your first question I just assumed you reffer to Current Obito from manga who is in possesion of double MS with Half of his body made of Senjuu cells but just recovered to full power.

If you mean Double MS Obito without Senjuu DNA then he would loose of course as blindness would overtake his eyes also side effects of using MS would remind him how much pain he has to endure.

Well I Think Hashirama compared Naruto his OWN amount of chakra to his own saying it is almost comparable then he sensed Kurama and said no, it is even more...

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Also Hashirama could compare his own chakra in SAGE MODE with Naruto's own in combination of Yang Kurama.

SM Hashirama's chakra = Naruto's own chakra + Yang Kurama's chakra

Obito's Wood release is useless against BSM Naruto, so is anything other then Obito's MS.

Anyway If we took raw Obito with Double MS then he would go blind very short after taking his time to master Kamui.

Only Current Obito from manga who is at full power could win, but most likely due to Senjuu DNA which gives insane stamina, else Obito looses

 

[Voidstep]

only current Nardo can beat a double MS Orbito
all the other Nardo versions lose

 

[Mr SwizZz]

To answer your first question I just assumed you reffer to Current Obito from manga who is in possesion of double MS with Half of his body made of Senjuu cells but just recovered to full power.

If you mean Double MS Obito without Senjuu DNA then he would loose of course as blindness would overtake his eyes also side effects of using MS would remind him how much pain he has to endure.

Well I Think Hashirama compared Naruto his OWN amount of chakra to his own saying it is almost comparable then he sensed Kurama and said no, it is even more...

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Also Hashirama could compare his own chakra in SAGE MODE with Naruto's own in combination of Yang Kurama.

SM Hashirama's chakra = Naruto's own chakra + Yang Kurama's chakra

Obito's Wood release is useless against BSM Naruto, so is anything other then Obito's MS.

Anyway If we took raw Obito with Double MS then he would go blind very short after taking his time to master Kamui.

Only Current Obito from manga who is at full power could win, but most likely due to Senjuu DNA which gives insane stamina, else Obito looses

"He's got almost as much chakra as I" - he was thinking about Naruto
"No, actually this has nine-tails chakra mixed in" - he realised it wasnt only Naruto's chakra, but also Kurama's.
I dont see where he says "even more". He says "almost as much as I".

So Yang Kurama + Naruto = on hashi's level

Even with Hashi's cells, Naruto can just gather natural chakra...
Obito won't be able to last too long.
Naruto still wins.

 

[KCMNaruto]

"He's got almost as much chakra as I" - he was thinking about Naruto
"No, actually this has nine-tails chakra mixed in" - he realised it wasnt only Naruto's chakra, but also Kurama's.
I dont see where he says "even more". He says "almost as much as I".

So Yang Kurama + Naruto = on hashi's level

Even with Hashi's cells, Naruto can just gather natural chakra...
Obito won't be able to last too long.
Naruto still wins.

If Double MS Obito doesn't have Senjuu DNA -> BSM Naruto wins low diff
If Double MS Obito has Senjuu DNA -> Draw or either side barerly win.

 

[Mr SwizZz]

If Double MS Obito doesn't have Senjuu DNA -> BSM Naruto wins low diff
If Double MS Obito has Senjuu DNA -> Draw or either side barerly win.

Yeah with help of Senju DNA its definitely going to be a closer fight but since all Obito can do is defend, his chances of winning aren't that high

 

[KCMNaruto]

Yeah with help of Senju DNA its definitely going to be a closer fight but since all Obito can do is defend, his chances of winning aren't that high

Truth unless Double MS enhance also already Kamui abiltiy which Obito uses. I see (close , long)Kamui wrap being double speed and his itangibility activating even faster. However Naruto's sensing abiltiy would ultimately bring him to win, but he would have to stay on guard all time and fight smart, because if he launches too many TBB while Obito will be in ghost form then Naruto will be doomed. However with intel Naruto has he would most likely use smart instead of spamming raw power.