[VS] BSM Naruto vs Double MS Obito [No Rikudou chakra]

[KCMNaruto]

Location: Where Hashirama fought Madara

Restrictions: Obito can not use PS, only up to Final Susanoo. Obito can not snipe while phasing[manga facts], Naruto can not use summons.

Intel: full

Intent: To Kill

Distance: 50 meters

Conditions: Both are fully restored, 100% health.

Who will win ?!

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[Draphsin]

Obito wins, naruto has absolutely no way of touching him.

 

[Raykyryn]

Location: Where Hashirama fought Madara

Restrictions: Obito can not use PS, only up to Final Susanoo. Obito can not snipe while phasing[manga facts], Naruto can not use summons.

Intel: full

Intent: To Kill

Distance: 50 meters

Conditions: Both are fully restored, 100% health.

Who will win ?!

Please post only with reasons

He can and for that very reason he wins.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Naruto already blitzed 1 MS Obito in BM, couldn't even touch even

 

[KCMNaruto]

Obito wins, naruto has absolutely no way of touching him.

Same can be said about Obito. How can he hurt Naruto in BSM when his avatar is not restricted.

The only weapon against him would long range Kamui, but it make him open to attack so Naruto would takes him out with clones utilising super speed along with great reaction time.

Without clones although, Obito takes this.

He can and for that very reason he wins.

scan of him doing it please ? no scan then stop argue with manga scans

Naruto already blitzed 1 MS Obito in BM, couldn't even touch even

good answe, it is possible but DMS Obito is not pushover and his variety of Kamui ability makes him much more hax and hard to deal with .

 

[Draphsin]

Same can be said about Obito. How can he hurt Naruto in BSM when his avatar is not restricted.

Warps inside the avatar & snipes him. Not to mention naruto's avatar takes much more of a toll than obito's kamui does, meaning naruto will run out of chakra first, so obito can outlast if he can't hit.

The only weapon against him would long range Kamui, but it make him open to attack so Naruto would takes him out with clones utilising super speed along with great reaction time.

Lol long ranged kamui warped the arm off the gedo before it could teleport to madara, no amount of footspeed is surpassing this feat, therefore he gets warped, & clones get phased through.

Without clones although, Obito takes this.

Clones don't change much when they can't hit him.

 

[Apêx1]

Warps inside the avatar & snipes him. Not to mention naruto's avatar takes much more of a toll than obito's kamui does, meaning naruto will run out of chakra first, so obito can outlast if he can't hit.



Lol long ranged kamui warped the arm off the gedo before it could teleport to madara, no amount of footspeed is surpassing this feat, therefore he gets warped, & clones get phased through.



Clones don't change much when they can't hit him.

He can't focus on something within the avatar, he ends up warping in front of the avatar similarly to how you can't focus on this air. The avatar will be in his LoS, not Naruto, similarly to how he can't warp within a human body and explode it from inside out even though he can see the chakra networks inside.

Though I agree, Obito wins.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Warps inside the avatar & snipes him. Not to mention naruto's avatar takes much more of a toll than obito's kamui does, meaning naruto will run out of chakra first, so obito can outlast if he can't hit.

Lol long ranged kamui warped the arm off the gedo before it could teleport to madara, no amount of footspeed is surpassing this feat, therefore he gets warped, & clones get phased through.

Clones don't change much when they can't hit him.

I agree about outlasting him.
Well it was showing Gedo Mazou being ripped from Obito's stomach so it would be delayed just second or two seconds which was enough for Kamui. I don't deny it would be just Kamui being such hax case but don't you think summoning something out of someone takes a little more time then summoning something from nowhere ?

He can not do both at the same time(phasing && snipping), so if Clones interrupt him with attack before he finish warping Naruto then Kamui will canceled.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

However I agree Naruto is the best match for Obito, shadow clone is nearly as haxxed as Kamui and will keep Obito on the run for sure. Even though BM Naruto couldn't di anything to Obito, if the fight dragged on that time Naruto would given serious trouble to Obito

Just imagine if Somebody could use both shadow clone and kamui at the same time with much chakra drainage Lol

 

[Raykyryn]

scan of him doing it please ? no scan then stop argue with manga scans

He can do it as Kakashi could use raikiri while he was phasing, fail to see your point.

 

[Draphsin]

I agree about outlasting him.
Well it was showing Gedo Mazou being ripped from Obito's stomach so it would be delayed just second or two seconds which was enough for Kamui. I don't deny it would be just Kamui being such hax case but don't you think summoning something out of someone takes a little more time then summoning something from nowhere ?

Kakashi didn't activate kamui until the gedo was already outside of obito. [

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] There may have been a delay, but the fact that kakashi can still warp the GM before it got the chance to teleport shows that it can keep up with high level speeds.

Kakashi's kamui has always been able to snipe objects quickly, [

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of objects, to some larger ones still get hit.

He can not do both at the same time(phasing && snipping), so if Clones interrupt him with attack before he finish warping Naruto then Kamui will canceled.

Yeah but that doesn't change much, he will still phase through naruto's attacks & even if he can interrupt obito once, he can't do it forever.

He can't focus on something within the avatar, he ends up warping in front of the avatar similarly to how you can't focus on this air. The avatar will be in his LoS, not Naruto, similarly to how he can't warp within a human body and explode it from inside out even though he can see the chakra networks inside.

Though I agree, Obito wins.

Fair point, I guess there's always short ranged kamui or simply sniping the avatar head from the outside.

 

[Demonic.]

Naruto wrecks that clown.Shadow clones make Obito's Kamui worthless:

- he can't warp a clone seeing as how he'll take a raswngan to the face if he does, while dealing with Naruto on the outside.
- His snipe is useless, seeing as how Naruto can always make more clones
- Naruto can easily trick this clown into warping a clone, like he fooled Kaguya, then he wins

Naruto mid diff

 

[Apêx1]

Naruto can't compete without avatar, which doesn't last longer than Obito's Izanagi. Once Izanagi is finished, Naruto has long reverted back into human form and gets Kamui sniped. Or Naruto's entire avatar gets Kamui sniped from the beginning, seeing how Kakashi was able to warp the entire Hachibi and warp him back out with chakra help, but Obito has more than enough chakra to do so himself since he's the original owner of the eye and can spam his abilities as he pleases. Obito low-mid diffs.

 

[KCMNaruto]

He can do it as Kakashi could use raikiri while he was phasing, fail to see your point.

I asked you for scan of Obito using any warp while phasing by it I mean any use of kamui warp while phasing.
I dont deny possibility of using any none kamui attack while phasing although as proved by kamui raikiri.

Kakashi didn't activate kamui until the gedo was already outside of obito. [

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Kakashi's kamui has always been able to snipe objects quickly, [

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Yeah but that doesn't change much, he will still phase through naruto's attacks & even if he can interrupt obito once, he can't do it forever.



Fair point, I guess there's always short ranged kamui or simply sniping the avatar head from the outside.

I agree with this, so Without clones obito wins mid diff
With clones Bsm Naruto looses high to extreme high diff but als has chance to pull off win just less times then loss

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Location: Where Hashirama fought Madara

Restrictions: Obito can not use PS, only up to Final Susanoo. Obito can not snipe while phasing[manga facts], Naruto can not use summons.

Intel: full

Intent: To Kill

Distance: 50 meters

Conditions: Both are fully restored, 100% health.

Who will win ?!

Please post only with reasons

Show me the carfox.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Kamui snipes before he can use clones.

 

[VongolaX]

I agree, Obito cannot kamui snipe and remain intangible.

It hasn't been shown by him, Kakashi, or him and Kakashi together.

So it's not existent....

Obito still wins though

 

[KCMNaruto]

Kamui snipes before he can use clones.

^^ Possible and most likely sadly.

I agree, Obito cannot kamui snipe and remain intangible.

It hasn't been shown by him, Kakashi, or him and Kakashi together.

So it's not existent....

Obito still wins though

At least one who agree

 

[VongolaX]

^^ Possible and most likely sadly.



At least one who agree

No problem

 

[DemonicAvenger]

KCM Naruto could take this.

Its the same as against single MS Obito. He just has another ability that doesn't really help him against Naruto. His "Full Potential" only looks like its opening portals to other dimensions.​

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