Did they battle against each other under these conditions?....No did kishimoto state BSM Naruto>PS Sasuke no. Therefore it is your opinion. All you did what speculate and favor every way in naruto's favor. Again its your opinion nothing more.
Wrong. Kishimoto doesn't need to state things for them to be true. We can conclude things by ourselves. Did kishimoto state naruto> konohmaru? No, but based on manga logic, it's safe to say that.
For the rest, I just keep what I said.
If its the next chapter couldn't Hashi have grown it back or created another one? If you are going to say that these events happened in sequence it has to be both ways
Looking at the picture it seems the slash was directed towards the arm. Most likely it regrew and grabbed the PS
There is no evidence nor hint that the goubi was destroyed and hashi made another. In fact, that panel shows the goubi recieving the hit, so it should show him getting sliced or destroyed. Yet, it didn't.
So it's more likely that goubi tanked it.
This is very important: after entering SM, the atributes of the user get a serious power up(strength, durability, speed, etc)
Now, let's understand what happens in BSM. Naruto is in BM, and then, he enters sage mode. Kurama's chackra can sync perfectly with senjutsu chakra. Naruto enters BSM.
In this situation, it's easy to see that, for BSM, Naruto BM acts as a base form. What does this mean? It means that BSM is an amplified version of the BM, all the atributes were increased, as it is how the SM works.
SM was portrayed as a multiplier, increasing the user's atributes in proportions. In this case:
Naruto BSM/ Naruto BM= Naruto SM/ Naruto base form= X. X is the constant of multiplication of the SM, the multiplying factor of the SM.
So you multiply by X thr atributes of the base form, in this case, naruto BM is a base form to BSM.
As kurama's chakra managed to sync perfectly with the SM, being in BM doesn't prevent the multiplying factor to be applied.
Another thing people say is: "Ah, but kurama comes from juubi, so it's natural energy, so it doesn't increase the power". That's a mistake. The bijuu chakras clearly changed from when they were the juubi, and from when they were natural energy. Bijuu chakra=/= natural energy and =/= senjutsu chakra.
The proof is that naruto needed to enter SM to affect obito, even while in KCM and BM. And even juugo's sage chakra from his sage transformation, that is an incomplete SM, could do it. And let's remember that juugo's senjuutsu was mixed with susanoo So, kurama's chakra is very different from senjutsu chakra and from natural energy.
Another thing is that: "NO, because BM is more powerful, so SM wouldn't make a diference". This is false. When naruto enters SM in BM, naruto is in sync with all of kurama's chakra. BM acts like a base form to BSM. Naruto gathers natural energy to make the balance with all that chakra, his plus kurama's. That's why his power would get amplified either way, because he is balancing natural energy with his BM, and not just with his chakra.
That means that the multiplier is still aplied.
With BSM, compared to BM, naruto is stronger, is faster, more resistant, more durable can heal himself faster and better, is more powerful, has better reflex, and has better sensor abilities
Sasuke doesn't even have PS. Naruto and Sasuke just mixed their power together. Hell, he might not even truly have Legged Susanoo, he still had Kurama's chakra cloak on when he first unleashed it.
Sasuke doesn't even have PS. Naruto and Sasuke just mixed their power together. Hell, he might not even truly have Legged Susanoo, he still had Kurama's chakra cloak on when he first unleashed it.
Wrong. Kishimoto doesn't need to state things for them to be true. We can conclude things by ourselves. Did kishimoto state naruto> konohmaru? No, but based on manga logic, it's safe to say that.
For the rest, I just keep what I said.
There is no evidence nor hint that the goubi was destroyed and hashi made another. In fact, that panel shows the goubi recieving the hit, so it should show him getting sliced or destroyed. Yet, it didn't.
So it's more likely that goubi tanked it.
It was a single scene from long distance NO DETAILS!!!
Wolfus you honestly can't be serious you serious believe that Mokuton can stop a PS slash when the sword has already cut through shuushinjuu a technique>>> Goubi. It even rocks the Goubi as a crown dude. Naruto was able to break one by speed blitzing for christ's sake!
Sasuke doesn't even have PS. Naruto and Sasuke just mixed their power together. Hell, he might not even truly have Legged Susanoo, he still had Kurama's chakra cloak on when he first unleashed it.
Sasuke has PS. Kurama's chakra wouldn't take his susanoo one lvl above, it would just make the current version more powerful.
Sasuke covering kurama with his susanoo has nothing to do with him borrowing naruto's power. In fact, he would only be able to cover it using PS. His armor had all the PS patterns.
So sasuke has PS. It's probably not as powerful as madara's, but he has PS.
Wolfus you honestly can't be serious you serious believe that Mokuton can stop a PS slash when the sword has already cut through shuushinjuu a technique>>> Goubi. Naruto was able to break one by speed blitzing for christ's sake!
Well, discuss with the scan. It's one of hashirama's mos powerful jutsus. And PS slash didn't cut shinsuusenju. The 20+ bijuu damas had a great part in destroying it's hands.
Sasuke has PS. Kurama's chakra wouldn't take his susanoo one lvl above, it would just make the current version more powerful.
Sasuke covering kurama with his susanoo has nothing to do with him borrowing naruto's power. In fact, he would only be able to cover it using PS. His armor had all the PS patterns.
So sasuke has PS. It's probably not as powerful as madara's, but he has PS.
Well, discuss with the scan. It's one of hashirama's mos powerful jutsus. And PS slash didn't cut shinsuusenju. The 20+ bijuu damas had a great part in destroying it's hands.
This is froma thread I made a while back, would either of you care to counter it?
People are saying Sasuke is the solo king, but he had to mix his chakra with Kurama/Naruto's to get PS. Hence when Kishi notes "Two Powers Mixing"
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Then Naruto opened Sasuke's PS so that the leaf rookies could get inside of Kurama's tails. He even went through and gave everyone Kurama cloak, expressing the fact that he can still, just as easily, control Kurama.
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Not to mention his "sword of solokings" was weilded by Kurama , who Naruto was still in control of, so it was actually wielded by Naruto in a sense. Everyone's neglecting the fact the Naruto was indeed with Sasuke the entire time. Notice that the both of them thrust to break the tip of the SO6P sword. And tbh, Kishi actually only drew Naruto while breaking the SA6P's sword.
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It seems that Naruto was the one still controlling Kurama's movement, as he is the one that made the final thrust.
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He may have it, but he ultimately needs Naruto/Kurama's help.
Sasuke has PS. Kurama's chakra wouldn't take his susanoo one lvl above, it would just make the current version more powerful.
Sasuke covering kurama with his susanoo has nothing to do with him borrowing naruto's power. In fact, he would only be able to cover it using PS. His armor had all the PS patterns.
So sasuke has PS. It's probably not as powerful as madara's, but he has PS.
Well, discuss with the scan. It's one of hashirama's mos powerful jutsus. And PS slash didn't cut shinsuusenju. The 20+ bijuu damas had a great part in destroying it's hands.
TBB GET PALMED BY MOKUTON DUDE! It's their freaking counter. The TBB aren't even shown exploding. They just spin and let the blade cut. Ugh, you know I thought you had more sense than this man, whether it's your fav or not when debating logic always comes first. I am out! Holla at me next time you visit Earth.
This is froma thread I made a while back, would either of you care to counter it?
People are saying Sasuke is the solo king, but he had to mix his chakra with Kurama/Naruto's to get PS. Hence when Kishi notes "Two Powers Mixing"
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Then Naruto opened Sasuke's PS so that the leaf rookies could get inside of Kurama's tails. He even went through and gave everyone Kurama cloak, expressing the fact that he can still, just as easily, control Kurama.
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Not to mention his "sword of solokings" was weilded by Kurama , who Naruto was still in control of, so it was actually wielded by Naruto in a sense. Everyone's neglecting the fact the Naruto was indeed with Sasuke the entire time. Notice that the both of them thrust to break the tip of the SO6P sword. And tbh, Kishi actually only drew Naruto while breaking the SA6P's sword.
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It seems that Naruto was the one still controlling Kurama's movement, as he is the one that made the final thrust.
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Hr may have it, but he ultimately needs Naruto/Kurama's help.
I totally agree with your thread. But this is not what we're saying.
It's obvious for anyone(except for stupid sasuke fapboys) and PS covered kurama was being controlled by both, with naruto playing a big part, as he was controlling the body under the armor.
There is no "sword of solo kings" Nor "sasuke soloed obito". This is pure fanboyism. It was naruto and sasuke, both together, as you said.
But that's not what we're saying. We're simply saying sasuke has PS, which he displayed in those scans.
TBB GET PALMED BY MOKUTON DUDE! It's their freaking counter. The TBB aren't even shown exploding. They just spin and let the blade cut. Ugh, you know I thought you had more sense than this man, whether it's your fav or not when debating logic always comes first. I am out! Holla at me next time you visit Earth.
False, false so false. Bijuu damas didn't explode? Really? Wow, now you're just taking stuff out of your ass here. Most bijuu damas hit shinsuusenju and exploded. It's obvious that they exploded. Now you're just denying basic logic.
It was a single scene from long distance NO DETAILS!!!
Wolfus you honestly can't be serious you serious believe that Mokuton can stop a PS slash when the sword has already cut through shuushinjuu a technique>>> Goubi. It even rocks the Goubi as a crown dude. Naruto was able to break one by speed blitzing for christ's sake!
I totally agree with your thread. But this is not what we're saying.
It's obvious for anyone(except for stupid sasuke fapboys) and PS covered kurama was being controlled by both, with naruto playing a big part, as he was controlling the body under the armor.
There is no "sword of solo kings" Nor "sasuke soloed obito". This is pure fanboyism. It was naruto and sasuke, both together, as you said.
But that's not what we're saying. We're simply saying sasuke has PS, which he displayed in those scans.
Wrong. Kishimoto doesn't need to state things for them to be true. We can conclude things by ourselves. Did kishimoto state naruto> konohmaru? No, but based on manga logic, it's safe to say that.
For the rest, I just keep what I said.
There is no evidence nor hint that the goubi was destroyed and hashi made another. In fact, that panel shows the goubi recieving the hit, so it should show him getting sliced or destroyed. Yet, it didn't.
So it's more likely that goubi tanked it.
Correction, I was right because it's still your OPINION. Just because I say Sakura>Goku and list ways she can beat him (Being Bias) does not mean I am right. See what I did there? That would be an opinion because we've never seen them fight one another. Feats and Speculations only go so far. As I said before it's your opinion until kishi makes them fight and we have a definite winner.
Correction, I was right because it's still your OPINION. Just because I say Sakura>Goku and list ways she can beat him (Being Bias) does not mean I am right. See what I did there? That would be an opinion because we've never seen them fight one another. Feats and Speculations only go so far. As I said before it's your opinion until kishi makes them fight and we have a definite winner.
It's simple. Opinions are irrelevant. In a debate, you'll gather evidences, you'll use logic(manga logic, for exemple), facts and evidences to back up your main idea. The other debater will do the same. If one runs out of argument and becomes unable to disprove the other side, then the one who "won" is more likely to be closer to the truth, so his statements stands.
Stop the opinion "argument", because it's not. If you say sakura> Goku, someone will come with evidences to disprove you, and if you can't counter his arguments, you're more likely to be wrong.
It's about time people stopped the "it all opinion" BS and grew up a little bit to learn to debate.
It's simple. Opinions are irrelevant. In a debate, you'll gather evidences, you'll use logic(manga logic, for exemple), facts and evidences to back up your main idea. The other debater will do the same. If one runs out of argument and becomes unable to disprove the other side, then the one who "won" is more likely to be closer to the truth, so his statements stands.
Stop the opinion "argument", because it's not. If you say sakura> Goku, someone will come with evidences to disprove you, and if you can't counter his arguments, you're more likely to be wrong.
It's about time people stopped the "it all opinion" BS and grew up a little bit to learn to debate.
It's not an opinion alone. I didn't write a giant wall of text with opinions. I wrote it with evidences and logic, facts and arguments. By simply using this, it becomes more than "an opinion".
It's not an opinion alone. I didn't write a giant wall of text with opinions. I wrote it with evidences and logic, facts and arguments. By simply using this, it becomes more than "an opinion".
Everything you say on this site, unless backed by Kishi's OWN words, are opinion.
Don't get mad at me, I'm just telling you. No-one here wins an argument unless Kishi decides to intervene. So let's just remember that eh?
Everything you say on this site, unless backed by Kishi's OWN words, are opinion.
Don't get mad at me, I'm just telling you. No-one here wins an argument unless Kishi decides to intervene. So let's just remember that eh?
Wow, people really don't have a mind on their own in here, do they?
In a debate, you'll gather evidences, you'll use logic(manga logic, for exemple), facts and evidences to back up your main idea. The other debater will do the same. If one runs out of argument and becomes unable to disprove the other side, then the one who "won" is more likely to be closer to the truth, so his statements stands.
Stop the opinion "argument", because it's not. If you say sakura> Goku, someone will come with evidences to disprove you, and if you can't counter his arguments, you're more likely to be wrong.
It's about time people stopped the "it all opinion" BS and grew up a little bit to learn to debate.
Evidences and logic, facts and arguments. By simply using this, it becomes more than "an opinion".
Maybe you should read what hirudora, the proof guy, usually says about proof, evidences, possbility, etc.
