BSM Naruto and KCM Minato vs. Hashirama

[adeshina365]

Konoha Crater (Naruto vs. Pain) & 150 meters distance
Intel: Full intel for both teams
Restrictions: SM for Hashirama

Scenario 2: Minato can use full BM

 

[KidGamer65]

-In close combat Mokujin rapes as Mokujin=Full Kurama>>Half Kurama, and a simple tap on the forehead equals GG due to Kakuan Nitten Suishu. Not to mention Mokujin as Mokuryu attached to it and we already saw how Naruto struggled with that alone in canon.

-Standard Bijuu Dama are slapped away or caught and thrown right back at Naruto. Or simply tanked with Mokuton Hobi. Based on the damage BD did to Hobi despite Hashirama being at the center of the blast none of Naruto's attacks would destroy it in a single shot. Not even Naruto's own Avatar would take a direct hit from a BD and be completely unscathed so Hobi is just as durable as the main body of his Avatar.

-The Bijuu Sized Bijuu Dama suffers the same fate as above.

-Super Bijuu Dama can be redirected w/ Jukai Kotan and Rashomon as an earth wall(s) + Jukai Kotan from a clone was going to redirect all 4 Perfect Susanoo sized Juubidama to sea.

Naruto's other offenses are useless.

Hiraishin is the only thing KCM Minato offers here so I'm not even going to address the rest of his arsenal. Markings need to be placed if they want to teleport attacks right to Hashirama, or themselves for that manner, and Mokuton can be used to simply drag/block/move all Kunai and markings away from Hashirama's immediate area thus no teleportation strikes.

So match ends with Kunai being buried or dragged into one place then Mokujin engages Naruto in close combat, beats him down and suppresses Kurama w/ Kakuan Nitten Suishu and ends their lives shortly afterwards.

Naruto and Minato definitely win scenario 2 though.

 

[ARGUS]

Hashirama wins S1
Loses S2

 

[Dizzldot]

Hashi solos these fodder with multiple wood dragon and pollen forest cmon

 

[TRE MERCER]

Naruto and Minato wins. Kurama gets teleported out of Hoti gates if he's ever caught. Or KM clones use chakra hands to rip them apart.

-In close combat Mokujin rapes as Mokujin=Full Kurama>>Half Kurama, and a simple tap on the forehead equals GG due to Kakuan Nitten Suishu. Not to mention Mokujin as Mokuryu attached to it and we already saw how Naruto struggled with that alone in canon.

-Standard Bijuu Dama are slapped away or caught and thrown right back at Naruto. Or simply tanked with Mokuton Hobi. Based on the damage BD did to Hobi despite Hashirama being at the center of the blast none of Naruto's attacks would destroy it in a single shot. Not even Naruto's own Avatar would take a direct hit from a BD and be completely unscathed so Hobi is just as durable as the main body of his Avatar.

-The Bijuu Sized Bijuu Dama suffers the same fate as above.

-Super Bijuu Dama can be redirected w/ Jukai Kotan and Rashomon as an earth wall(s) + Jukai Kotan from a clone was going to redirect all 4 Perfect Susanoo sized Juubidama to sea.

Naruto's other offenses are useless.

Hiraishin is the only thing KCM Minato offers here so I'm not even going to address the rest of his arsenal. Markings need to be placed if they want to teleport attacks right to Hashirama, or themselves for that manner, and Mokuton can be used to simply drag/block/move all Kunai and markings away from Hashirama's immediate area thus no teleportation strikes.

So match ends with Kunai being buried or dragged into one place then Mokujin engages Naruto in close combat, beats him down and suppresses Kurama w/ Kakuan Nitten Suishu and ends their lives shortly afterwards.

Naruto and Minato definitely win scenario 2 though.

How does he counter flash BD? or blast Bijuudama?

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto and Minato wins. Kurama gets teleported out of Hoti gates if he's ever caught. Or KM clones use chakra hands to rip them apart.


How does he counter flash BD? or blast Bijuudama?

I addressed that. Super BD refers to Flash BD. Rashomon and Jukai Kotan redirect it. What is Blast Bijuu Dama? The wave form? Because that's just standard BD but probably weaker, so Hobi tanks with zero damage like in canon.

 

[TRE MERCER]

I addressed that. Super BD refers to Flash BD. Rashomon and Jukai Kotan redirect it. What is Blast Bijuu Dama? The wave form? Because that's just standard BD but probably weaker, so Hobi tanks with zero damage like in canon.

Redirecting it won't happen when Minato can teleport it on Hashirama through ftg.

Fair enough but he has no counter for spawn Bijuudama.

 

[KidGamer65]

Redirecting it won't happen when Minato can teleport it on Hashirama through ftg.

Fair enough but he has no counter for spawn Bijuudama.

And I already addressed that too. :lol

 

[Eng nawashi]

Minato and Naruto stomps both scenarios .

 

[sixpaths15]

bsm naruto alone is stonger sm hashirama let alone base hashirama

 

[Unorthodox]

-In close combat Mokujin rapes as Mokujin=Full Kurama

Failed right here SM is restricted meaning its the basic Mokujin that got vaporized from a standard BD SO it gets negged.

I addressed that. Super BD refers to Flash BD. Rashomon and Jukai Kotan redirect it. What is Blast Bijuu Dama? The wave form? Because that's just standard BD but probably weaker, so Hobi tanks with zero damage like in canon.

Flower world is not redirecting a Flash BD its blows clean through it. Rashomon gets warped away by Minato. and clones holding their Kunai and extened their arms like this

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To warp flash BD anywhere. Non SM Mokujin strength does not >>>> 5 Bijuu which BM Kurama snatched up like nothing let alone BSM he mowed down. Furthermore BD barrage consist of 4 bijuu damas while Mokujin only has 2 hands. Hobei is not tanking anything about the standard BD.

Naruto solos adding Minato makes this a stomp.

 

[KidGamer65]

Failed right here SM is restricted meaning its the basic Mokujin that got vaporized from a standard BD SO it gets negged.

SM being restricted is irrelevant. DB stated that Mokujin was on par with Kurama during his fight against Hashirama, meaning Mokujin=Full Kurama in physical power as Hashirama never used a giant Mokujin like he did against Madara as an Edo. Says nothing about SM Mokujin.

Flower world is not redirecting a Flash BD its blows clean through it. Rashomon gets warped away by Minato. and clones holding their Kunai and extened their arms like this

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Hashirama's clone was canonically going to redirect 4 Bijuu Dama that dwarf Naruto's with Earth Walls and Jukai Kotan, thus all of Naruto's BD suffer the same fate. Whether or not he warps Rashomon away is irrelevant because it'll be used when the BD is fired. He doesn't need it afterwards. :lol

To warp flash BD anywhere. Non SM Mokujin strength does not >>>> 5 Bijuu which BM Kurama snatched up like nothing let alone BSM he mowed down. Furthermore BD barrage consist of 4 bijuu damas while Mokujin only has 2 hands. Hobei is not tanking anything about the standard BD.

Do you just post nonsense and expect anyone with sense to believe it? Databook states that Mokujin and Full Kurama are on par. Full Kurama>>BM Naruto in physical power as BM Naruto's Avatar is an Avatar made using Half Kurama, and BSM isn't significantly stronger than BM's Avatar so bringing up the enhancement is pointless.

And Mokujin having only 2 hands is irrelevant. BM Naruto slapped away 5 Bijuu Dama. Mokujin is far stronger thus he slaps away any BD Naruto makes that is the standard size. And I've already addressed why Hobi survives Bijuu Dama.


And when you reply please don't blow a gasket.

 

[PhantomSage]

Hashirama should win this, albeit with a bit of difficulty. Jukai Koutan was said to be able to move Juubidama to the ocean iirc, so it should protect from Bijuudama, or Hashirama forms Hobi and tanks it like in canon.

Mokuryu rapes Naruto's avatar.
Kajukai Korin will eventually come up and take the duo down I think

 

[Jhin]

Father and Son duo take this mid difficulty

 

[Steinbiz]

IMO, either can solo Hashirama. Hashirama is strong, but overhyped as hell. He has many flaws. Minato is stupid fast and it's only a matter of time until he tags Hashirama. Naruto is a ridiculous power house that can blast through most of Hashirama's wood. Thousand-hands justu poses a threat to Naruto, but with sage sensing and nine tails speed and sensing, he should be able to dodge without much effort. Minato? He laughs at the wood while teleporting.