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BSM = V3 susanoo + SM or PS. That how kishi portrayed it.
 

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Naruto using TBB and combining it with sage chakra could break through Juubi jinchuuriki's 4 elemental shield.

Enough said, good luck Susanoo.

Time required to prepare such attack is similar to starting and stabilizing PS.
 

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I guess kcm naruto = ems sasuke too since they did a combo attack in those modes too.

Yeah ems sasuke could fight kcm with just a rib cage. As far i recall kcm nardo was owned here and there alot.
 

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Yeah ems sasuke could fight kcm with just a rib cage. As far i recall kcm nardo was owned here and there alot.

considering he has been fight 10 times longer then sasuke. your one of those people that fap sasuke a lot.
 

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considering he has been fight 10 times longer then sasuke. your one of those people that fap sasuke a lot.
You neglecting that nardo had his chakra refilled times over makes you his fapper then.
 

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Yeah ems sasuke could fight kcm with just a rib cage. As far i recall kcm nardo was owned here and there alot.

Nope, read again. You said bsm naruto= ems sasuke by portrayal because they are using a combo attack( even then sasuke's Ps was only sitting in naruto's cloak while naruto control the rasengan to break juubito's defence and swing sasuke's sword to cut juubito, all while still maintaining the cloaks on the alliance). By that logic kcm naruto equals ems sasuke by portrayal because they use a combo attack. The only scan of kcm getting beat is when he splits his clones among the battlefield that he can't make any clone again. Ems sasuke can't replicate naruto's feat in this war, his feat are far below what naruto achieved, I don't get people trying to compare them.
 
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Nope, read again. You said bsm naruto= ems sasuke by portrayal because they are using a combo attack. By that logic kcm naruto equals ems sasuke by portrayal because they use a combo attack. The only scan of kcm getting is when he splits his clones among the battlefield that he can't make any clone again. Ems sasuke can't replicate naruto's feat in this war, his feat are far below what naruto achieved, I don't get people trying to compare them.
Thats some ****ed up logic you have.
I dont say they are equal cuz they made a combo but cuz kishi says they are. Seeing how kishi displayed BSM nardo and SM v3 susanoo by his side means that kishi sees them equal in these modes. Later SM v3 was replaced by PS.

BM is just a chakra projection like susanoo = equal except firepower.
SM+BM =V3 susanoo+SM.
PS is larger and stabilized chakra something BSM doesnt have. A mere strength of PS creates a shock wave that cuts mountains, BSM needs TBB (ninjutsu) for that.
I find it fair to say that PS=BSM
chakra and fatigue are two different things. nope I just know that BSM>EMS
Chakra refill removes fatigue U_U
 

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Thats some ****ed up logic you have.
I dont say they are equal cuz they made a combo but cuz kishi says they are. Seeing how kishi displayed BSM nardo and SM v3 susanoo by his side means that kishi sees them equal in these modes. Later SM v3 was replaced by PS.

BM is just a chakra projection like susanoo = equal except firepower.
SM+BM =V3 susanoo+SM.
PS is larger and stabilized chakra something BSM doesnt have. A mere strength of PS creates a shock wave that cuts mountains, BSM needs TBB (ninjutsu) for that.
I find it fair to say that PS=BSM
Chakra refill removes fatigue U_U

or maybe that's the best sasuke had at the time. your jumping to conclusions when you say that.
 

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BM Naruto -> = EMS SASUKE

BSM -> EMS Sasuke.
 

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Thats some ****ed up logic you have.
I dont say they are equal cuz they made a combo but cuz kishi says they are. Seeing how kishi displayed BSM nardo and SM v3 susanoo by his side means that kishi sees them equal in these modes. Later SM v3 was replaced by PS.

BM is just a chakra projection like susanoo = equal except firepower.
SM+BM =V3 susanoo+SM.
PS is larger and stabilized chakra something BSM doesnt have. A mere strength of PS creates a shock wave that cuts mountains, BSM needs TBB (ninjutsu) for that.
I find it fair to say that PS=BSM

Kishi never said that, that is your interpretation and bsm doesn't need ninjutsu to bust mountain it tail can bust mountains.
 

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or maybe that's the best sasuke had at the time. your jumping to conclusions when you say that.
Nah, sasuke had PS as he displayed it right afterwards and even orochimaru said sasuke held off.
Kishi never said that, that is your interpretation and bsm doesn't need ninjutsu to bust mountain it tail can bust mountains.
I would love to see a scan of it GG
 
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Nah, sasuke had PS as he displayed it right afterwards and even orochimaru said sasuke held off.

doesn't mean kishi displayed them as equals do you know his mind no. unless he said it himself don't go throwing stuff out there unless you got prove.
 

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After seeing what Madara used for Perfect Susanoo, I'll say they are about even.

Instead of looking at the user, look at its feats and what it was able to handle.

TTB
Tenpachi
Etc
 
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