Bringer-of-Darkness Technique vs Tsukuyomi

[Turson]

Tsukiyomi of course, why is that even question? Bringer of Darkness can be broken like any normal Genjutsu, you cant do that with Tsukiyomi unless you have Uchiha blood and Sharingan.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Tsukiyomi of course, why is that even question? Bringer of Darkness can be broken like any normal Genjutsu, you cant do that with Tsukiyomi unless you have Uchiha blood and Sharingan.

not really, to cancel that genjutsu you have to touch the user

OT: tsukoyomi no question

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Tsukiyomi of course, why is that even question? Bringer of Darkness can be broken like any normal Genjutsu, you cant do that with Tsukiyomi unless you have Uchiha blood and Sharingan.

Actually BOD can only be broken by attacking the caster, which is difficuly since you're blind.

 

[Turson]

not really, to cancel that genjutsu you have to touch the user

OT: tsukoyomi no question

You dont have to touch the user, you just have to disturb your chakra flow. Hiruzen wasnt able to do that, since ha had to hold up Shiki Fuujin, if he disturbed his chakra flow the Shiki Fuujin would be canceled.

Actually BOD can only be broken by attacking the caster, which is difficuly since you're blind.

Where was that said? Its A-class Genjutsu, it surely isnt that powerful, and I cant see how it can compete with Tsukiyomi.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

You dont have to touch the user, you just have to disturb your chakra flow. Hiruzen wasnt able to do that, since ha had to hold up Shiki Fuujin, if he disturbed his chakra flow the Shiki Fuujin would be canceled.


Where was that said?

well you should re read the manga

Actually BOD can only be broken by attacking the caster, which is difficuly since you're blind.

only blindness, but the victim still have their hearing and scent ability, and almost all shinobi rarely depend from their sight alone, they can still use other means to detect the enemy location ad figure out where the enemy attack coming

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Where was that said? Its A-class Genjutsu, it surely isnt that powerful, and I cant see how it can compete with Tsukiyomi.

Think it was in databOOk, and simply touching the user wont do, you have to attack the user.

 

[Turson]

well you should re read the manga

I did read the manga, and I know that it was never said. Besides, I already explained why Hiruzen couldnt cancel this by distrurbing his chakra flow.

Think it was in databOOk, and simply touching the user wont do, you have to attack the user.

Links? If what you are saying was true, than Bringer of Darkness would be more than A-rank technique.

 

[Blaze Release]

Actually turson, the only way to break free is to make contact with your opponent

 

[Wolfang714]

Nice thread dude I was really making this just now and saw someone else made it - ah whatever. Well in terms of the present-effect of the two, I'm going with Tsukuyomi - it puts the caster at a great advantage to stall or just mame the opponent. BUT, and this is a big BUT, for the lasting effect and safety of the user I will have to go with Bringer-of-Darkness. BOD (Bringer-of-Darkness) is great for occupying the enemy so you have time maybe get healed/heal yourself, set traps, and mutilate the opponent in their "blind" state. REMEMBER - Tsukuyomi requires the Mangekyou Sharingan at least - at most being EMS. If the caster of Tsukuyomi only has Mangekyou, their eyes will start to hurt and bleed which contributes to the overall aftermath of going blind. I'm going with BOD.

 

[Turson]

Actually turson, the only way to break free is to make contact with your opponent

Nobody gave any proof to support that statement.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

I did read the manga, and I know that it was never said. Besides, I already explained why Hiruzen couldnt cancel this by distrurbing his chakra flow.



Links? If what you are saying was true, than Bringer of Darkness would be more than A-rank technique.

Your explanation for Hiruzen doesn't make sense. He can make Kage Bushin but can't disturb his chakra?

 

[Turson]

Your explanation for Hiruzen doesn't make sense. He can make Kage Bushin but can't disturb his chakra?

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-> Actually he made clones before, so my explanation is valid.

Lol at this poll. How can A-rank technique be better than S-level technique. Bringer of Darkness has its advantages, but its definietly inferioir to Tsukiyomi.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

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-> Actually he made clones before, so my explanation is valid.

Lol at this poll. How can A-rank technique be better than S-level technique. Bringer of Darkness has its advantages, but its definietly inferioir to Tsukiyomi.

they hate everything that involved the uchiha even when they know that tsukoyomi(itachi version) is far more superior than BOD

 

[~Uzumaki~]

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-> Actually he made clones before, so my explanation is valid.

But he could maintain those Kage Bushin, they didn't dispel did they? Also why won't he be able to disrupt his chakra while using Shiki Fujin?

 

[Turson]

But he could maintain those Kage Bushin, they didn't dispel did they? Also why won't he be able to disrupt his chakra while using Shiki Fujin?

Becuase if he disturbed his chakra Shiki Fuujin would be cancelled. Hiruzen couldnt afford that, since he had only leftover of his chakra. You remember when Naruto learned how to stand on the water? He was only able to do that when his chakra was focused and steady, when it was only slighty disturbed becuase of his poor control ha was falling into water. Its the same with techniques.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Becuase if he disturbed his chakra Shiki Fuujin would be cancelled. Hiruzen couldnt afford that, since he had only leftover of his chakra. You remember when Naruto learned how to stand on the water? He was only able to do that when his chakra was focused and steady, when it was only slighty disturbed becuase of his poor control ha was falling into water. Its the same with techniques.

Hiruzen was attacked with weapons, of which some hit him and he could maintain Shiki Fujin, he then got stabbed by Kusanagi and could maintain Shiki Fujin long enough to remove Oro's hands but can't just disturb his chakra? Also Normal A rank genjutsu are usually dispelled by pain, the weapons that hit him were painful yet the illusion didn't end, until he attacked Hashirama and removed his soul. This is no normal genjutsu, its like 2nd Mizukage's clam.

 

[Turson]

Hiruzen was attacked with weapons, of which some hit him and he could maintain Shiki Fujin, he then got stabbed by Kusanagi and could maintain Shiki Fujin long enough to remove Oro's hands but chakra just disturb his chakra?

Since when hitting shinobi is causing chakra disturbtion? That dosent make any sense.

This is no normal genjutsu, its like 2nd Mizukage's clam.

If it really was like clam, it would be S-rank technique, instead of only A-rank technique. Live with that.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Since when hitting shinobi is causing chakra disturbtion? That dosent make any sense.

If it really was like clam, it would be S-rank technique, instead of only A-rank technique. Live with that.

Normal genjutsu are broken by
1. Pain
2 Disturbing chakra

The pain from the weapons that hit him couldn't break it
You have no proof that he couldn't disturb his chakra. Just beause you're using a tech doesn't mean you can't disturb your chakra. Read naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Bringer-of-Darkness_Technique
No matter how powerful yoU are, you're forced to wait helplessly in the darkness. Mizukage clam genjutsu, like bringer. Of darkness requires you to attack the caster in order to break it.

 

[Turson]

Normal genjutsu are broken by
1. Pain

Only low-lever Genjutsu like the one that Itachi reflected at Kurenai. When Naruto was fighting Itachi shortly after time-skip he felt pain, yet it didnt woke him up from Genjutsu. Thats why Jiraiya trained Naruto how to disturb chakra, simply becuase it was better method.

You have no proof that he couldn't disturb his chakra.

I already proven that, you are just in denial.

Just beause you're using a tech doesn't mean you can't disturb your chakra.

Narutos training proves otherwise.

No matter how powerful yoU are, you're forced to wait helplessly in the darkness.

Databook also says Amaterasu is as hot as sun, while it isnt.

Mizukage clam genjutsu, like bringer.

Once again, if it really was like clam, it would be S-rank technique, instead of only A-rank technique. Live with that.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Only low-lever Genjutsu like the one that Itachi reflected at Kurenai. When Naruto was fighting Itachi shortly after time-skip he felt pain, yet it didnt woke him up from Genjutsu. Thats why Jiraiya trained Naruto how to disturb chakra, simply becuase it was better method.

I already proven that, you are just in denial.

Narutos training proves otherwise.

Databook also says Amaterasu is as hot as sun, while it isnt.

Once again, if it really was like clam, it would be S-rank technique, instead of only A-rank technique. Live with that.

Naruto's standing on water training to break genjutsu is anime only.
Clam genjutsu hasn't been ranked