[Discussion] Brain storm; Naruto's new power up.

[ANiMUS]

Interesting I like your take on it, instead of the Gedo Mazo Naruto would substitute his own body as the juubi's body. Now that could be cool. He would "become" a biju, not just a host.



You forget its not Sage chakra that works against juubi jin, its the fact you have enhanced your own chakra with natural energy which takes it beyond conventional 5 nature type transformation. With Madara now having his own sage mode his own black stuff is now enhanced with sage charka IE that means the weakness of his form is now no longer a weakness.



I don't see Naruto using a sword sorry, hes never used one before, and has shown no interest in them. Sasuke is more likely to be interested in such a thing. Not only that but a sword cannot be used to create, a kunai however as a gardening tool can be.



This sounds interesting I like this, but realistically I have my doubts that Kishi would be so interesting .



This sounds really interesting I have to admit. Taking away Madara's chakra and rendering him just a normal person would be extremely satisfying, better than killing him lol.

So kudos to you for such a cool idea. Very similar to avatar I have to say lol.



Mmmm, all you said this new mode can do is go fast and have quick reflexes which he already has. Greater damage potential? Meh he can't tank Madara he needs more surgical like techniques. Spamming Bijudama's is not going to affect Madara lol.

And as for the Rinnegan sure we would like to see Naruto with it but realistically its not going to happen.



Madara can eat Bijudama's lol, forgetting Petra path? And if Sasuke gets the Rinnegan he will be so OP that Naruto simply can't match him and thats forgetting sage mode lol.

Well, then Naruto is doomed XDXDXD
1. We don't know if Madz can use preta with just one eye and there is no guarantee he is getting the other one.
2. senjutsu tbb? But then again what's stopping that from being absorbed too???.....ONE MINUTE what can Sasuke do against him even w/ SM and rinnengan?
3. It seems u have to be still for preta and that leaves u open for a counter attack.

 

[valandil988]

Well, then Naruto is doomed XDXDXD
1. We don't know if Madz can use preta with just one eye and there is no guarantee he is getting the other one.
2. senjutsu tbb? But then again what's stopping that from being absorbed too???.....ONE MINUTE what can Sasuke do against him even w/ SM and rinnengan?
3. It seems u have to be still for preta and that leaves u open for a counter attack.

Your forgetting he can still use Sasunoo and Mokuton lol.

 

[ANiMUS]

Your forgetting he can still use Sasunoo and Mokuton lol.

I have very big doubt's with mokuton, and couldn't the susanoo be countered by the bijuu avatar? Its most likely gonna be enhanced anyway

 

[valandil988]

I have very big doubt's with mokuton, and couldn't the susanoo be countered by the bijuu avatar? Its most likely gonna be enhanced anyway

=_= Doubts about Mokuton?? Lol wut? Mokuton can grab Bijudama's with its "bare hands" lol...

 

[ANiMUS]

=_= Doubts about Mokuton?? Lol wut? Mokuton can grab Bijudama's with its "bare hands" lol...

I meant him getting it

 

[Seventh Sama]

I meant him getting it

Sasuke has hashi's cells. so he'll get mokuton all right. but he won't be able to use it right off the bat...

 

[ANiMUS]

Sasuke has hashi's cells. so he'll get mokuton all right. but he won't be able to use it right off the bat...

Well, I kinda heard this from somewhere else, but Kabuto spoke of his research with Hashi cells not that he is using Hashi cells in particular. Kabuto said that he was the closest to the Sage. Even close than Obito who was an Uchiha w/ Hashi cells and the Rinnengan. It takes a lot more than Hashi cells to trump that.
He could have possibly meant his research of the physical energy in Hashirama's cells and its application.
There are a few things we don't know about Hashi's cells and though I do think Hashirama was the closest being to having the Sage's body, I don't think it was spot on.
Kabuto could have been closer.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Well, I kinda heard this from somewhere else, but Kabuto spoke of his research with Hashi cells not that he is using Hashi cells in particular. Kabuto said that he was the closest to the Sage. Even close than Obito who was an Uchiha w/ Hashi cells and the Rinnengan. It takes a lot more than Hashi cells to trump that.
He could have possibly meant his research of the physical energy in Hashirama's cells and its application.
There are a few things we don't know about Hashi's cells and though I do think Hashirama was the closest being to having the Sage's body, I don't think it was spot on.
Kabuto could have been closer.

Why is kabuto merged with sasuke then?... he's obviously putting something into sauce.

 

[ANiMUS]

Why is kabuto merged with sasuke then?... he's obviously putting something into sauce.

Juugo merging basically and bits of Kabuto's flesh containing Kabuto's insane physical energy and nature energy will merge with Sasuke and repair the wound all the while Sasuke is getting a continuous chakra feed (most likely senjutsu chakra)
Kabuto is essentially healing Sasuke, transplanting flesh, and acting as life support simultaneously.

Kabuto may very well have Hashi cells mixed in, but simply judging by vitality Kabuto> Hashi. Kabuto's physical energy may overshadow Hashirama's.

Even as far as yang abilities
Kabuto: make a cave an inanimate object come to life
Hashirama: makes trees grow

 

[ShiroShonen]

I see Naruto getting a new chakra cloak or becoming a pseudo-jubbi jin and Sasuke with the Rinnegan or Sage Mode

 

[Seventh Sama]

Juugo merging basically and bits of Kabuto's flesh containing Kabuto's insane physical energy and nature energy will merge with Sasuke and repair the wound all the while Sasuke is getting a continuous chakra feed (most likely senjutsu chakra)
Kabuto is essentially healing Sasuke, transplanting flesh, and acting as life support simultaneously.

Well this is a great opportunity to give sasuke senju cells so he can awaken rinnegan. idk its all up to kishi

 

[ANiMUS]

Well this is a great opportunity to give sasuke senju cells so he can awaken rinnegan. idk its all up to kishi

Sorry, I edited it Also, there is the possibility that what makes the Rinnengan is not Senju and Uchiha, but the high concentrations of yin and yang. If Thats true Sasuke could still gain rinnengan + has Hashi chakra might help

 

[GhostProject]

I disagree with Sasuke getting Sage Mode against Madara. Naruto needs a unique role against Madara, one that fills in Sasuke's weakness here (works vice versa as well), and I bet it'll play similar to their combination they used against Obito. I find Rinnegan more logical and suiting for the fight.

As for Naruto powerup speculation? Obito gathered a bit of the bijuu chakra from Madara so, perhaps Naruto gets supercharged Kurama Jin Mode.

It'd fit, Naruto Yang (Tank, supercharged body, supplies the energy of Senjutsu) and Sasuke Yin (Dojutsu, strategy, pinpoint attacking, has been shown able to harness Senjutsu but not supply it) vs Madara

 

[ANiMUS]

I disagree with Sasuke getting Sage Mode against Madara. Naruto needs a unique role against Madara, one that fills in Sasuke's weakness here (works vice versa as well), and I bet it'll play similar to their combination they used against Obito. I find Rinnegan more logical and suiting for the fight.

As for Naruto powerup speculation? Obito gathered a bit of the bijuu chakra from Madara so, perhaps Naruto gets supercharged Kurama Jin Mode.

It'd fit, Naruto Yang (Tank, supercharged body, supplies the energy of Senjutsu) and Sasuke Yin (Dojutsu, strategy, pinpoint attacking, has been shown able to harness Senjutsu but not supply it) vs Madara

Madara busts all Ninjutsu. Senjutsu susanoo was foreshadowed. Neither can fight this alone and their best bet is fight together w/o piggy backing.

Strategy will have to ensue, but unlike last time they will be without aid so both need to learn to stand on their own feet.

 

[Ultimate Sage Naruto]

Well this is a great opportunity to give sasuke senju cells so he can awaken rinnegan. idk its all up to kishi

Funny since when kabuto have hashi dna or cells ? he never told about it , and manga facts not show about he having , best version , kabuto pump some stuff to sausage to heal him