Boruto's seal

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Is the seal the result of momoshiki transferring power to boruto?
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Momoshiki did mention a jutsu that fits the description.
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Can this be it or nah?


Another thing, momoshiki acquired markings on his body after consuming kinshiki.
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Boruto also has tattoo markings although it's much different in design.
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Possible connection though?
 

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I personally believe momoshiki transferred his life force and power inside boruto so he's essentially his kurama
 

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^It wouldn't make much sense for him to transfer his life force into him considering he was already dead at the time. We've seen Hagoromo or other Otsutsuki give out their chakra, or power, onto living beings already. However, we haven't seen dead beings pass their 'spirit' or person into another physical entity.

For example, Minato and Kushina transferred pieces of their chakra (life force) into Naruto's seal so that they could live in him for a required moment that he would need their help. It didn't last forever. Even Sasuke ended up absorbing Orochimaru inside of him, but it was a forceful act rather than Orochimaru doing it himself.

On that note, it doesn't really make sense for Momoshiki to transfer his power because his ability lies with:
> Absorbing Ninjutsu
> Sending that Ninjutsu back stronger

Its hard to say what the seal does, its too early to tell. Though I'll warn people not to immediately judge its properties because Kawaki also has the same seal, and I doubt that Momoshiki 2.0 is living inside of him as well. Most likely the alien that gave it to him is alive and breathing, unless he somehow killed one singe-handily :lol





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When we found out that the seal originated from the hand, I looked back in the chapter and the author did hint that the seal was originating from the palm instead of the outer-hand.

It looks like it grows, unlike the normal Curse Seals who grow when turned "on" -- The seal actually grows in its 'normal/base' mode until it gets turned 'on' (and glows)

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It is also possible that this might be Kawaki's 'seal'

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On that note, it doesn't really make sense for Momoshiki to transfer his power because his ability lies with:
> Absorbing Ninjutsu
> Sending that Ninjutsu back stronger

Its hard to say what the seal does, its too early to tell. Though I'll warn people not to immediately judge its properties because Kawaki also has the same seal, and I doubt that Momoshiki 2.0 is living inside of him as well. Most likely the alien that gave it to him is alive and breathing, unless he somehow killed one singe-handily :lol





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When we found out that the seal originated from the hand, I looked back in the chapter and the author did hint that the seal was originating from the palm instead of the outer-hand.

It looks like it grows, unlike the normal Curse Seals who grow when turned "on" -- The seal actually grows in its 'normal/base' mode until it gets turned 'on' (and glows)

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It is also possible that this might be Kawaki's 'seal'

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I mean, it's true we don't know what the seal is capable of doing, but you think it doesn't make sense for it to contain momoshiki's chakra? Everything else i can agree on.
 

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^It wouldn't make much sense for him to transfer his life force into him considering he was already dead at the time. We've seen Hagoromo or other Otsutsuki give out their chakra, or power, onto living beings already. However, we haven't seen dead beings pass their 'spirit' or person into another physical entity.

For example, Minato and Kushina transferred pieces of their chakra (life force) into Naruto's seal so that they could live in him for a required moment that he would need their help. It didn't last forever. Even Sasuke ended up absorbing Orochimaru inside of him, but it was a forceful act rather than Orochimaru doing it himself.

On that note, it doesn't really make sense for Momoshiki to transfer his power because his ability lies with:
> Absorbing Ninjutsu
> Sending that Ninjutsu back stronger

Its hard to say what the seal does, its too early to tell. Though I'll warn people not to immediately judge its properties because Kawaki also has the same seal, and I doubt that Momoshiki 2.0 is living inside of him as well. Most likely the alien that gave it to him is alive and breathing, unless he somehow killed one singe-handily :lol





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When we found out that the seal originated from the hand, I looked back in the chapter and the author did hint that the seal was originating from the palm instead of the outer-hand.

It looks like it grows, unlike the normal Curse Seals who grow when turned "on" -- The seal actually grows in its 'normal/base' mode until it gets turned 'on' (and glows)

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It is also possible that this might be Kawaki's 'seal'

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I could see that mark on his eye potentially being his seal or a tattoo he added for killing naruto either or

But as for transferring momoshikis life force it's either before leaving to the spirit realm he transferred his chakra to boruto to anchor him in this world. Or its also possible he sealed his life force inside boruto completely so he wouldn't disappear into the spirit realm. If momoshiki truly did transfer his chakra his life force resides in him in some way

As for Kawakii it's possible in there first fight momoshiki manifests himself to save boruto and gives a seal to Kawakii too for being impressed with him
 

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I mean, it's true we don't know what the seal is capable of doing, but you think it doesn't make sense for it to contain momoshiki's chakra? Everything else i can agree on.
Not sure tbh. We haven't seen the seal before, so its hard to gauge. It doesn't really make sense to me because of how the seal operates... like how is the blue seal a representation of Momoshiki's power?

For example, if Naruto was to pass down his power through a seal, wouldn't that seals power be a representation of Naruto himself? As in the person with such seal being capable of using Naruto's abilities? When I look at the seal, I see it operating for its own use rather than Momoshiki's power; Which is something only he can access to with a Rinnegan.

From my perspective the nature of the seal is supposed to be a mystery. Every seal operates for a specific use, whether it is to store Nature Energy, Seal something or someone, or trap/enslave someone.

On that note the seal was created by Momoshiki's chakra, but I don't think that the seal is 'just' his chakra. It definitely has a use, because Momoshiki to me doesn't seem like a guy who just wants to hand someone who he called an 'inferior creature' a second ago power. lol

Looks like he wants to manipulate Boruto onto a path because he saw his future, or, the seal has a drawback that may **** him up later (I-E - Revenge).
 

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For example, Minato and Kushina transferred pieces of their chakra (life force) into Naruto's seal so that they could live in him for a required moment that he would need their help. It didn't last forever. Even Sasuke ended up absorbing Orochimaru inside of him, but it was a forceful act rather than Orochimaru doing it himself.

Iirc the chakra that Minato and Kushina stored inside Naruto was just that and didn't really contain any of their consciousness (sort of like an interactive hologram recording) because when Minato was released along with the Hokages he stated he never met Naruto, didn't know that Naruto and Kurama were working together and was excited to see what he looks like now.
 

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Iirc the chakra that Minato and Kushina stored inside Naruto was just that and didn't really contain any of their consciousness (sort of like an interactive hologram recording) because when Minato was released along with the Hokages he stated he never met Naruto, didn't know that Naruto and Kurama were working together and was excited to see what he looks like now.
That's kind of sad on Naruto's part, I guess this means his mother doesn't really know anything about him then?

Regardless, thanks. I too don't believe that Momoshiki was capable of transferring his 'life/soul/being' into Boruto because he was already dead. Though its a tricky subject because we have seen Otsutsuki characters like Hagoromo/Hamura, speak in the afterlife, and at least the latter has given Naruto/Sasuke "chakra" + "seals" -- However, he has never been able to physically resurrect himself by applying his person into an already living being.

I think there is a line drawn to what you can and cannot do once you are dead. And I figure that's the case here, it'll probably be the last time we see him, unless he gets revived in the same way Orochimaru uses the Curse Seal.
 

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Iirc the chakra that Minato and Kushina stored inside Naruto was just that and didn't really contain any of their consciousness (sort of like an interactive hologram recording) because when Minato was released along with the Hokages he stated he never met Naruto, didn't know that Naruto and Kurama were working together and was excited to see what he looks like now.

That could just be due split consciousness like a clone so if he gets that Chakra of his back from Naruto he should remember
 

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That's kind of sad on Naruto's part, I guess this means his mother doesn't really know anything about him then?

Regardless, thanks. I too don't believe that Momoshiki was capable of transferring his 'life/soul/being' into Boruto because he was already dead. Though its a tricky subject because we have seen Otsutsuki characters like Hagoromo/Hamura, speak in the afterlife, and at least the latter has given Naruto/Sasuke "chakra" + "seals" -- However, he has never been able to physically resurrect himself by applying his person into an already living being.

I think there is a line drawn to what you can and cannot do once you are dead. And I figure that's the case here, it'll probably be the last time we see him, unless he gets revived in the same way Orochimaru uses the Curse Seal.

Fear not, Minato shall tell Kushina all about Naruto: :sdo:

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As for Momo, I don't think he transferred his spiritual consciousness inside Boruto, and imo if Momo was going to try and resurrect himself through Boruto he would've done it with more subtlety, why talk to Boruto instead quietly slipping inside him? it seems to me he was giving his parting warning and premonitions to Boruto about defeating a god before vanishing for good, and wouldn't Sasuke (who was aware of Momo's presence) would've been more worried if Momo implanted his essence inside Boruto?
 

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Not sure tbh. We haven't seen the seal before, so its hard to gauge. It doesn't really make sense to me because of how the seal operates... like how is the blue seal a representation of Momoshiki's power?

For example, if Naruto was to pass down his power through a seal, wouldn't that seals power be a representation of Naruto himself? As in the person with such seal being capable of using Naruto's abilities? When I look at the seal, I see it operating for its own use rather than Momoshiki's power; Which is something only he can access to with a Rinnegan.

From my perspective the nature of the seal is supposed to be a mystery. Every seal operates for a specific use, whether it is to store Nature Energy, Seal something or someone, or trap/enslave someone.

On that note the seal was created by Momoshiki's chakra, but I don't think that the seal is 'just' his chakra. It definitely has a use, because Momoshiki to me doesn't seem like a guy who just wants to hand someone who he called an 'inferior creature' a second ago power. lol

Looks like he wants to manipulate Boruto onto a path because he saw his future, or, the seal has a drawback that may **** him up later (I-E - Revenge).

Well think it of it in this perceptive what do you think momoshikis ultimate goal is its at least to recollect all the chakra fruit chakra on earth and possibly reenslave them to the god tree. So for momoshiki to manipulate things like he wants I would assume at least an aspect of his consciousness lives inside boruto to make sure to achieve his goals.

And even its not a seal like Naruto's where momoshiki literally resides in it could be like the curse mark where orochimaru manipulated with and I think the only reason Sasuke could seal orochimaru to it was it's connection with it being an extension of him.

To me it makes more sense that he would directly manipulate him then in a indirect manner.
 

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Fear not, Minato shall tell Kushina all about Naruto: :sdo:

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As for Momo, I don't think he transferred his spiritual consciousness inside Boruto, and imo if Momo was going to try and resurrect himself through Boruto he would've done it with more subtlety, why talk to Boruto instead quietly slipping inside him? it seems to me he was giving his parting warning and premonitions to Boruto about defeating a god before vanishing for good, and wouldn't Sasuke (who was aware of Momo's presence) would've been more worried if Momo implanted his essence inside Boruto?

I think he was trying to do that but due to his byakugan blood he could see him
 

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That could just be due split consciousness like a clone so if he gets that Chakra of his back from Naruto he should remember

But the chakra of Minato and Kushina vanished, and the clone's chakra must go back to the original consciousness before the person can integrate the memories of the said clone, if Momo vanished to the afterlife then only the supposed residual chakra remains and it has no one to come back to.
 
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But the chakra of Minato and Kushina vanished, and the clone's chakra must go back to the original consciousness before the person can integrate the memories of the said clone, if Momo vanished to the afterlife then only the supposed residual chakra remains and it has no one to come back to.

I don't think the Chakra naturally returns to them example being hagoromo lives inside his descendants so he sees what they see doesn't mean he has shared memory all those hosts. I think that was a reason why hagoromo couldn't manifest himself when he wanted because he had to wait for his Chakra essence to combine together.

As for momoshiki if his spirit did leave to the spirit realm he could use his Chakra in Boruto to manipulate him like black zetsu to resurrect his true self. So the Chakra would be like a clone image of him to do his will if that isn't the true momoshiki
 

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I don't think the Chakra naturally returns to them example being hagoromo lives inside his descendants so he sees what they see doesn't mean he has shared memory all those hosts. I think that was a reason why hagoromo couldn't manifest himself when he wanted because he had to wait for his Chakra essence to combine together.

As for momoshiki if his spirit did leave to the spirit realm he could use his Chakra in Boruto to manipulate him like black zetsu to resurrect his true self. So the Chakra would be like a clone image of him to do his will if that isn't the true momoshiki

Well it's possible but how will Momo resurrect his true self? in Kaguya's situation what BZ needed to do was for Madara to absorb the Shinju. activate Infinite Tsukuyomi and connect people's Chakra to revive her, in Momo's case it would require a resurrection ninjutsu like Rinne Tensei.
 

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Well it's possible but how will Momo resurrect his true self? in Kaguya's situation what BZ needed to do was for Madara to absorb the Shinju. activate Infinite Tsukuyomi and connect people's Chakra to revive her, in Momo's case it would require a resurrection ninjutsu like Rinne Tensei.

He just need someone to awaken a rinnegan to use.
 
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