Boruto is exactly what Konoha wanted.

[DrProof]

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Ibiki encouraged cheating in the first test for the CE.

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So Boruto cheating is actually encouraged in a ninja; meaning he's been a true ninja all this time by pt.1 Naruto standards.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Kid Madara and Hashirama laughs at all your propositions.

Would you still watch the series if Madara had bought Kurama in a store?

 

[DrProof]

Kid Madara and Hashirama laughs at all your propositions.

Would you still watch the series if Madara had bought Kurama in a store?

Nigga what?

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Nigga what?

A shinobi is by definition those who walk in the shadows. Those who endure.

In part 1 actually we are shown how much a ninja must strive.

Boruto doing all of this is spitting in the face of the likes of Kawarama and Itama. And kid Tajima and kid Butsuma.

 

[Uzumaki Bolt]

To be fair, him using the tool is the same as Kakashi using the Tanto to save his ass during the 3rd war. It's still a tool that gave him an advantage that others didn't know of. It's a lot more advanced, but still a tool.

 

[DrProof]

A shinobi is by definition those who walk in the shadows. Those who endure.

In part 1 actually we are shown how much a ninja must strive.

Boruto doing all of this is spitting in the face of the likes of Kawarama and Itama. And kid Tajima and kid Butsuma.

You realize everything you've said thus far doesn't invalidate what Ibiki was showcasing correct? Konoha's CE instructor instilled the readers with the fact that cheating is ninja-like, and therefore acceptable. Nothing to argue with here bruh lmfao.

To be fair, him using the tool is the same as Kakashi using the Tanto to save his ass during the 3rd war. It's still a tool that gave him an advantage that others didn't know of. It's a lot more advanced, but still a tool.

True. But people say Boruto is a cheater, and ninjas cheat so. I don't even like Boruto, but bruh is a ninja by Canon terms.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

To be fair, him using the tool is the same as Kakashi using the Tanto to save his ass during the 3rd war. It's still a tool that gave him an advantage that others didn't know of. It's a lot more advanced, but still a tool.

It's not a reliable ninja tool, specially if you want to show off your true power - what is the goal of the Chuunin Exams.
If someone gets to steal the only thing that gives you power you are done. And it proves you are in fact weak.

 

[Umari Senju]

You realize everything you've said thus far doesn't invalidate what Ibiki was showcasing correct? Konoha's CE instructor instilled the readers with the fact that cheating is ninja-like, and therefore acceptable. Nothing to argue with here bruh lmfao.


True. But people say Boruto is a cheater, and ninjas cheat so. I don't even like Boruto, but bruh is a ninja by Canon terms.

I get what your saying for reals. But Naruto said it himself. The Chunin Exams tournament was to test the ninjas martial prowess.

1st part of the test was to test out subterfuge and cheating. This part of the exam wasn’t for that and therefore against the rules.

Still, again I see what you are getting at and agree to a point

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

You realize everything you've said thus far doesn't invalidate what Ibiki was showcasing correct? Konoha's CE instructor instilled the readers with the fact that cheating is ninja-like, and therefore acceptable. Nothing to argue with here bruh lmfao.


True. But people say Boruto is a cheater, and ninjas cheat so. I don't even like Boruto, but bruh is a ninja by Canon terms.

Because if someone gets to steal your tool you continue to have any chance to show the true power of your village.
What Ibiki is saying is about stealth. Not about showing off to everybody your dishonor in battlefield.

It's like saying in chess you can make "illegal" moves when your opponent is not looking, all because you need to be more "smart".

 

[DrProof]

I get what your saying for reals. But Naruto said it himself. The Chunin Exams tournament was to test the ninjas martial prowess.

1st part of the test was to test out subterfuge and cheating. This part of the exam wasn’t for that and therefore against the rules.

Still, again I see what you are getting at and agree to a point

Martial simply means warlike, or appropriate to war. Utilizing your ability to "cheat" doesn't branch out from the showcasing of ones martial prowess. Because, when you think about it, the ninja tool is a tool, no different from a sword, or armor. As well, fighting prowess isn't limited to merely physical means (as seen with Shikimaru & Temari), Boruto using his intelligence to come to the conclusion that using the Kote device would further him in the CE, and his ninja career shows his talent to guage his current aptitude.

 

[salamander uchiha]

To be fair, him using the tool is the same as Kakashi using the Tanto to save his ass during the 3rd war. It's still a tool that gave him an advantage that others didn't know of. It's a lot more advanced, but still a tool.

With all due respect the tanto was never banned and neither is the scenario the same. A tool which is restricted from yhe exam is resteicted for a specific reason there's no simultude whatsoever.

OT: cheating is being a part of a ninja, however this test specifically restricted the use of certain tech. The test itself is governmed by rules which has permissibles and impermissibles. In Ibiki's scenario they were pretty much told cheat and dont get caught that was allowed by the rules. In Boruto's scenario the ninja tool is prohibited and you can't use it. Using one scenario which has it's own rules to justify a scaneria with different rules is silly at best.

 

[DrProof]

Because if someone gets to steal your tool you continue to have any chance to show the true power of your village.
What Ibiki is saying is about stealth. Not about showing off to everybody your dishonor in battlefield.

It's like saying in chess you can make "illegal" moves when your opponent is not looking, all because you need to be more "smart".

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No, Ibiki isn't just lecturing them about stealth/recon missions, he's giving them insight about the ninja world in general.

As the saying goes. All is fair in love & war. Which is precisely correct. And your example is absolutely correct. If you're smart enough, and crafty enough to utilize the ability to cheat without getting caught, do so. Because in the end, cheating is a capability we're all able to utilize, just some much better than others.

 

[DrProof]

With all due respect the tanto was never banned and neither is the scenario the same. A tool which is restricted from yhe exam is resteicted for a specific reason there's no simultude whatsoever.

OT: cheating is being a part of a ninja, however this test specifically restricted the use of certain tech. The test itself is governmed by rules which has permissibles and impermissibles. In Ibiki's scenario they were pretty much told cheat and dont get caught that was allowed by the rules. In Boruto's scenario the ninja tool is prohibited and you can't use it. Using one scenario which has it's own rules to justify a scaneria with different rules is silly at best.

What? What's the difference between a ninja tool? They're both in the end tools, and tools are only as good as the user.

You can't be prejudice against one weapon, and not against the other. Literally makes zero sense.

 

[salamander uchiha]

What? What's the difference between a ninja tool? They're both in the end tools, and tools are only as good as the user.

You can't be prejudice against one weapon, and not against the other. Literally makes zero sense.

A tanto relies on an individuals talents the device does not. The device is preloaded with scrolls jutsu etc. That's why Naruto banned one and not the other there's no prejudice in it.

 

[salamander uchiha]

There is no difference. You give a unskilled idiot either tool and they’re no better off against a skilled opponent.

All the jutsu in the scrolls were Boruto’s. It’s not different from tenten raining preloaded ninja tools from her scroll.


Boruto probably didn’t need the tool if he wasn’t being such a beta. But his only fault was him getting caught.

Cornrow using his alt to answer a question directed to me with substandard pathetic logic. Using a Tanto requires individual effort, training and all that comes with it. Whipping out jutsu from a preloaded device for any scenario requires 0 effort as Boruto demonstrated. Also the reason ot was banned if it was the same it wouldn't have been banned.

@bold: Boruto used it because he needed it if he didn't he wouldn't have. Try and make as many excuses as you like those are the canon facts.

 

[DrProof]

There is no difference. You give a unskilled idiot either tool and they’re no better off against a skilled opponent.

All the jutsu in the scrolls were Boruto’s. It’s not different from tenten raining preloaded ninja tools from her scroll.


Boruto probably didn’t need the tool if he wasn’t being such a beta. But his only fault was him getting caught and his parents intuition and insight.

Big facts. Props for knowing what's up.

 

[DrProof]

A tanto relies on an individuals talents the device does not. The device is preloaded with scrolls jutsu etc. That's why Naruto banned one and not the other there's no prejudice in it.

A tool is a tool though at the end of the day. You can't discriminate against one because it's inherently "better" than the other with "easier" usage.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

He’s retarded.

He’s saying technology exclusive to konoha (pre-leak) and a ancient monster is the same as buying those things in a store.

Ninja are deceptive.

Genjutsu, clones, tools, scrolls.



Boruto only issue was him being inadequate as a ninja at the time and him being caught which is expected given Naruto knows his son can’t spam that many clones at once.

You dumbness is showing. You never had English Semantic and Interpretation Lessons, did you?

The point about Kurama is: Madara could've found easier ways to capture Kurama. But instead he chose to defy it, making him who he is.
The goal of Chuunin Exams is to show off the true raw power of a village shinobi. Not how fine you can handle technology.

 

[salamander uchiha]

A tool is a tool though at the end of the day. You can't discriminate against one because it's inherently "better" than the other with "easier" usage.

Of course you can and Naruto gave the reasons why. One nurtures shinobi the other doesn't. One requires a persons individual skills which he develops with the tool the other doesn't.

Naruto's reasons:

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It's as clear as day why it's not the same.

You dumbness is showing. You never had English Semantic and Interpretation Lessons, did you?

The point about Kurama is: Madara could've found easier ways to capture Kurama. But instead he chose to defy it, making him who he is.
The goal of Chuunin Exams is to show off the true raw power of a village shinobi. Not how fine you can handle technology.

You pretty much summed it up.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

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No, Ibiki isn't just lecturing them about stealth/recon missions, he's giving them insight about the ninja world in general.

As the saying goes. All is fair in love & war. Which is precisely correct. And your example is absolutely correct. If you're smart enough, and crafty enough to utilize the ability to cheat without getting caught, do so. Because in the end, cheating is a capability we're all able to utilize, just some much better than others.

You think that behaving like that in a chess match is right? lol
Maybe that's why you don't understand that the point of chuunin exams is show off the Village's shinobi raw power.
If someone steals the technology from Boruto he is as good as a earthworm, and that's completely the opposite of what a Chuunin exam winner should be.