Boruto If He Mastered Sage Mode and FTG Like Minato and Naruto

[KingHashirama]

Minato single handedly won a war for Konoha and had a "flee on his sight" order on his head. What did Hiruzen accomplish aside from getting the village wrecked by his own disciple?

- God of Shinobi (something superior to anything Minato has accomplished)
- Mastering many combat forms
- Knowledge of numerous jutsus and their power at his disposal
- Doing what not a single KKG user had done in the entire manga, even with the rinnegan.. Using all 5 elements.

Minato's "flee on spot" order was because nobody but a top tier could take him on.


But atleast you had an argument unlike the other dude.

 

[Prince Badman]

If he mastered this at the same level as pain arc Naruto he could develop a technique that combines Gentle Fist and Frog Kumite. Not to mention the FTG jutsu could boost both his speed and reaction time through the roof thus negating the issue of the Byakugan's blindspot assuming he awakens the Byakugan. What do all of you think?

FTG??

 

[lndra]

FTG??

Flying
Thunder
God

 

[Prince Badman]

Flying
Thunder
God

Oh right...thanks

 

[Prince Badman]

- God of Shinobi (something superior to anything Minato has accomplished)
- Mastering many combat forms
- Knowledge of numerous jutsus and their power at his disposal
- Doing what not a single KKG user had done in the entire manga, even with the rinnegan.. Using all 5 elements.

Minato's "flee on spot" order was because nobody but a top tier could take him on.


But atleast you had an argument unlike the other dude.

I think that Hokages power ratings have been screwed up by Kishi himself.........I mean initially the 3rd and 4th were hyped up while 1st and 2nd were described briefly. Later on Minato got all the hype and was hailed to the point where readers got the feeling that he was the strongest among the hokages......And when all of them fought together in the war we knew that hashirama had no competition at all.....Tobirama was hyped up only to be trashed and Minato to a certain extent got the stick......If it comes down to Hiruzen and Minato i guess minato is better.....Hiruzen might have all the knowledge and elements but Minato's execution and speed are on a whole different level......Shiki fujin was originally used by Minato and Hiruzen copied that to stop Oro. And don't forget that when you compare the Gokages, the Hokages stand above all at least that is what has been depicted in the entire manga. SO titles don't mean much when they have to be compared amongst themselves nor does the hype......Itachi, Shisui, Kakashi's father, Jiraiya all were OP and in their own league so don't go only for the titles or hype when comparing two characters

 

[KingHashirama]

I think that Hokages power ratings have been screwed up by Kishi himself.........I mean initially the 3rd and 4th were hyped up while 1st and 2nd were described briefly. Later on Minato got all the hype and was hailed to the point where readers got the feeling that he was the strongest among the hokages......And when all of them fought together in the war we knew that hashirama had no competition at all.....Tobirama was hyped up only to be trashed and Minato to a certain extent got the stick......If it comes down to Hiruzen and Minato i guess minato is better.....Hiruzen might have all the knowledge and elements but Minato's execution and speed are on a whole different level......Shiki fujin was originally used by Minato and Hiruzen copied that to stop Oro. And don't forget that when you compare the Gokages, the Hokages stand above all at least that is what has been depicted in the entire manga. SO titles don't mean much when they have to be compared amongst themselves nor does the hype......Itachi, Shisui, Kakashi's father, Jiraiya all were OP and in their own league so don't go only for the titles or hype when comparing two characters

No, the fans simply didn't read properly, and go too focused on the "Flashy" stuff. The first and Second Hokage were introduced as "hailed as the greatest shinobi in the village". <<<< automatically superior to Minato/Hiruzen, however people overlooked it, and now think Kishimoto changed his mind or something. In reality he didn't.


Its not about "hiruzen might have knowledge". He has been through 3 world wars, him being Hokage through all 3 of them is a testament to his power. Nobody being able to do anything to the leaf village during his reign is a testament to his power. However, fans are concieted with simply how characters are shown in battle to them, so if lets say Hashirama is only shown throwing kunais, and not anything else. He'll automatically be judged on that, because these fans "need" "feats" to please themselves so they can some "Debates" about them. While totally disregarding the actual universe set up by the manga.


There is a difference between titles, and hype. Someone being the god of shinobi isn't a hype, its a feat. Nobody is born a god of shinobi, through their display of strength the title is given to them.

 

[Prince Badman]

No, the fans simply didn't read properly, and go too focused on the "Flashy" stuff. The first and Second Hokage were introduced as "hailed as the greatest shinobi in the village". <<<< automatically superior to Minato/Hiruzen, however people overlooked it, and now think Kishimoto changed his mind or something. In reality he didn't.


Its not about "hiruzen might have knowledge". He has been through 3 world wars, him being Hokage through all 3 of them is a testament to his power. Nobody being able to do anything to the leaf village during his reign is a testament to his power. However, fans are concieted with simply how characters are shown in battle to them, so if lets say Hashirama is only shown throwing kunais, and not anything else. He'll automatically be judged on that, because these fans "need" "feats" to please themselves so they can some "Debates" about them. While totally disregarding the actual universe set up by the manga.


There is a difference between titles, and hype. Someone being the god of shinobi isn't a hype, its a feat. Nobody is born a god of shinobi, through their display of strength the title is given to them.

Leadership and fighting abilities are two very different things.......Kakashi wasn't even anywhere near what you will call as strong but he became the hokage coz of his leadership skill and thought process.....okay tell me greatest of all shinobis and a God of shinobi....there is no comparison people are bound to get confused....Also keeping the village safe is a different criteria...Minato soloed Kurama and died he might even have come out alive if he didn't have to fight obito at the same time and worry about Naruto and Kushina too....now if you say that he wasn't powerful wouldn't you be utterly wrong........And as far as Tobirama is concerned i don't really see what his feats were except creating the forbidden justsus that were later on used for the village's destruction

 

[KingHashirama]

Leadership and fighting abilities are two very different things.......Kakashi wasn't even anywhere near what you will call as strong but he became the hokage coz of his leadership skill and thought process.....okay tell me greatest of all shinobis and a God of shinobi....there is no comparison people are bound to get confused....Also keeping the village safe is a different criteria...Minato soloed Kurama and died he might even have come out alive if he didn't have to fight obito at the same time and worry about Naruto and Kushina too....now if you say that he wasn't powerful wouldn't you be utterly wrong........And as far as Tobirama is concerned i don't really see what his feats were except creating the forbidden justsus that were later on used for the village's destruction

"leadership" in Naruto is defined by power. And comparing Kakashi to Hiruzen isn't a fair comparison.. since Kakashi was only filling in the office until Naruto could get into the right age and etc to lead (considering his past was pretty bad.) and then you had the whole generation thing.



Kishimoto's introductions:

Hashirama and Tobirama : "These two are hailed as the greatest shinobi". << notice the "Are"

Hiruzen's intro: "was hailed as the God of Shinobi" <<<< notice the "was".


Kishimoto Post timeskip intro of Hashirama:

Hashirama: "A god of shinobi" <<< notice he didn't say "THE god of shinobi", but instead "A" (one of)



What the vocal fans thought:

- Kishimoto changed his mind on Hiruzen, and instead made Hashirama the God of Shinobi.
- Kishimoto debunked all of Hiruzen's "hype"/ "Titles" from part 1

In reality:

- Kishimoto showed why Hashirama/Tobirama are hailed as the greatest Shinobi in the leaf village (something fans had forgotten).
- Hashirama/Tobirama were introduced as superiors to Hiruzen.
- Hiruzen during his age was the God of Shinobi. So Hashirama being a God of Shinobi, doesn't change the fact that during Hiruzen's era Hiruzen was the god of shinobi.




Minato solo'd Kurama? when? He had his Wife's help and had to go with suicide attack. And he didn't fight Obito at the sametime. Hiruzen was taking care of Kurama, while Minato was fighting Obito.

 

[Prince Badman]

"leadership" in Naruto is defined by power. And comparing Kakashi to Hiruzen isn't a fair comparison.. since Kakashi was only filling in the office until Naruto could get into the right age and etc to lead (considering his past was pretty bad.) and then you had the whole generation thing.



Kishimoto's introductions:

Hashirama and Tobirama : "These two are hailed as the greatest shinobi". << notice the "Are"

Hiruzen's intro: "was hailed as the God of Shinobi" <<<< notice the "was".


Kishimoto Post timeskip intro of Hashirama:

Hashirama: "A god of shinobi" <<< notice he didn't say "THE god of shinobi", but instead "A" (one of)



What the vocal fans thought:

- Kishimoto changed his mind on Hiruzen, and instead made Hashirama the God of Shinobi.
- Kishimoto debunked all of Hiruzen's "hype"/ "Titles" from part 1

In reality:

- Kishimoto showed why Hashirama/Tobirama are hailed as the greatest Shinobi in the leaf village (something fans had forgotten).
- Hashirama/Tobirama were introduced as superiors to Hiruzen.
- Hiruzen during his age was the God of Shinobi. So Hashirama being a God of Shinobi, doesn't change the fact that during Hiruzen's era Hiruzen was the god of shinobi.




Minato solo'd Kurama? when? He had his Wife's help and had to go with suicide attack. And he didn't fight Obito at the sametime. Hiruzen was taking care of Kurama, while Minato was fighting Obito.

no it is not....where did you get that idea....leadership and power are separate things....power=leadership was Naruto's psyche initially......as for Minato okay he had Kushina's help alright.....not simultaneously but how long was the gap between these two incidents? As for Kakashi being only the filler doesn't do Kakashi justice.....he was recommended by Shukaku instead of Danzo remember.....moreover if you wanna see the actual feats i guess Hashirama's were justified.....even Minato was nerfed to what his hype was...same goes for Hiruzen...and worst of all Tobirama....

 

[Meowazziel]

If he mastered this at the same level as pain arc Naruto he could develop a technique that combines Gentle Fist and Frog Kumite. Not to mention the FTG jutsu could boost both his speed and reaction time through the roof thus negating the issue of the Byakugan's blindspot assuming he awakens the Byakugan. What do all of you think?

If he gained Sage mode and Frog Kumite with gentle fist attacks.
FTG.
Stronger elements + rasengan combos.
Awaken Byakugan.

Yeah than he would be quite crazy strong.

Boruto has potential.

Maybe even become the new host of Kurama one day, when Naruto dies (or Kurama becomes free/someone else like Sarada becomes the host).

Btw imagine Boruto and Sarada getting kids together.
Damm those kids would have uber genes =D.