Boruto If He Mastered Sage Mode and FTG Like Minato and Naruto

[Magnolius]

That font in bold though.

Has quite the Impact, don't you agree?

 

[lndra]

RIGHT!!! FTG needs to come back. Also I meant to imply that he mastered these abilities when he got older.

Yeah I mean honestly, I think the parallels with his grandfather are there, if you ask me.

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What-ever attributed to Minato being a Genius early on (outside of the abilities we know that were generated; Flying Thunder God, Created the Rasengan, etc.,). I guess you could comply that to his Grandson, whom also is showing talent that probably won't be seen in his generation, outside of himself, and you could even argue we haven't seen 'some' of this Genius early on in different generations too.

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, learning the Kage Bunshin without training, and learning to utilize Fuuton, Raiton, and recently Suiton elemental natures.

Then you have the fact that Boruto succeeded where both his Father (I'll explain this part below), Grandfather, and Kakashi failed. In applying

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to his Rasengan. In comparison to his Father, Naruto argued that the task was too difficult because it was like looking

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, which is why Kakashi later proposed the idea of splitting the effort of making the technique with the aid of shadow clones. Meanwhile Boruto applied his Nature Chakra on his

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. Naruto later did the same once he was bestowed Rikudou chakra.

I think the scariest part of this feat is that Kakashi proposed that the technique resulting in a 'Nature-chakra' Rasengan

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, and the guy pulled off his own S Rank difficulty (not power wise, but difficulty wise) at 12. So that really says a lot about his 'Genius', or 'potential'.

It would be a damn shame if they don't work on these parallels with his Grandfather. Even though he wants nothing to do with the Hokage position. Either-way, I feel like they might nerf him a bit. We'll see.

 

[Nick01]

Himawari deserves SM.

 

[KingHashirama]

Please. Hiruzen's hype was trashed and given to Hashirama in the end.

Hiruzen's hype died less than 200 chapters in. If all you're going on is hype, you should re evaluate your claims.

"hype", I assume you don't know the difference between "Hype" and "feat". A title is not a "hype". A title being given to someone is a feat.

And no clue where you and others are getting this ridiculous notion that Hiruzen's title got "debunked" when Hashirama was introduced as "A god of shinobi" not "THE God of shinobi"... He is simply one of the 3, and the more powerful one, compared to Hiruzen.

Nahh, i think you simply need to learn the difference in "feats" and hype".. instead of making up your own definition of the words.

Yeah I mean honestly, I think the parallels with his grandfather are there, if you ask me.

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What-ever attributed to Minato being a Genius early on (outside of the abilities we know that were generated; Flying Thunder God, Created the Rasengan, etc.,). I guess you could comply that to his Grandson, whom also is showing talent that probably won't be seen in his generation, outside of himself, and you could even argue we haven't seen 'some' of this Genius early on in different generations too.

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, learning the Kage Bunshin without training, and learning to utilize Fuuton, Raiton, and recently Suiton elemental natures.

Then you have the fact that Boruto succeeded where both his Father (I'll explain this part below), Grandfather, and Kakashi failed. In applying

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to his Rasengan. In comparison to his Father, Naruto argued that the task was too difficult because it was like looking

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, which is why Kakashi later proposed the idea of splitting the effort of making the technique with the aid of shadow clones. Meanwhile Boruto applied his Nature Chakra on his

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. Naruto later did the same once he was bestowed Rikudou chakra.

I think the scariest part of this feat is that Kakashi proposed that the technique resulting in a 'Nature-chakra' Rasengan

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, and the guy pulled off his own S Rank difficulty (not power wise, but difficulty wise) at 12. So that really says a lot about his 'Genius', or 'potential'.

It would be a damn shame if they don't work on these parallels with his Grandfather. Even though he wants nothing to do with the Hokage position. Either-way, I feel like they might nerf him a bit. We'll see.

1 thing you are forgetting is this: Naruto had only been legit training as a ninja for about 4 years at max, at that point (especially when a lot of his time with Jiraiya was spent on just the basics of ninja stuff).. while Boruto was being taught from the start. So to compare Naruto and Boruto, really isn't a fair comparison there. Especially when we know that Naruto was also having chakra issues with Kurama. Tajuu kage bunshin no-jutsu in couple of hours , with no help except the scroll.. big deal in my opinion.

 

[The Necromancer]

"hype", I assume you don't know the difference between "Hype" and "feat". A title is not a "hype". A title being given to someone is a feat.

And no clue where you and others are getting this ridiculous notion that Hiruzen's title got "debunked" when Hashirama was introduced as "A god of shinobi" not "THE God of shinobi"... He is simply one of the 3, and the more powerful one, compared to Hiruzen.

Nahh, i think you simply need to learn the difference in "feats" and hype".. instead of making up your own definition of the words.

1. A title is hype based on feats. Feats that are conveniently missing. You think everyone that calls him god has seen him fight? Nope. That's hype.
2. Suigetsu (a student of Orochimaru's) only recognized Hashirama as Kami no Shinobi, not Hiruzen, despite being right next to them both.

I'm not here to debate, because the manga has made it plainly clear who is superior. The fact that Hiruzen was forgotten early in Part I (while ****-riding Minato himself most of the time) is proof enough.

But feel free to believe whatever you want to believe.

 

[KingHashirama]

1. A title is hype based on feats. Feats that are conveniently missing. You think everyone that calls him god has seen him fight? Nope. That's hype.
2. Suigetsu (a student of Orochimaru's) only recognized Hashirama as Kami no Shinobi, not Hiruzen, despite being right next to them both.

I'm not here to debate, because the manga has made it plainly clear who is superior. The fact that Hiruzen was forgotten early in Part I (while ****-riding Minato himself most of the time) is proof enough.

But feel free to believe whatever you want to believe.

1. Title is a feat. Someone achieving certain title, is their feat. A Feat is an accomplishment/achievement showing courage, strength, or skill. "God of Shinobi" is a title showing Hiruzen's strength and Skill. It wasn't given to Hiruzen.. the dude earned it, by being the freaking strongest of his time.

2. Because Hashirama outclasses every ninja who was in that very room, and is a bigger legend than any of the others.


"****-riding Minato".. oh my, he said that it would've been better if Minato was a live.. because you know logically.. a guy in a prime state would do much better in defending a village than a 69 year old man out of his prime.. But of course that is "****-riding"?? my god.

I will :]

 

[lndra]

1 thing you are forgetting is this: Naruto had only been legit training as a ninja for about 4 years at max, at that point (especially when a lot of his time with Jiraiya was spent on just the basics of ninja stuff).. while Boruto was being taught from the start. So to compare Naruto and Boruto, really isn't a fair comparison there. Especially when we know that Naruto was also having chakra issues with Kurama. Tajuu kage bunshin no-jutsu in couple of hours , with no help except the scroll.. big deal in my opinion.

You could just attribute a different thought process to his son. If you watched the Movie, he knowingly doesn't like to train much, and looks for short cuts when things become too difficult for him.

He even argues to Naruto whom tells him he needs to train more rigorously with his team mates, that he doesn't need to because 'he learned this and that' without much needed practice. Anyway, I think it's fair to compare the latter because Naruto was trained by Jiraiya for three years straight, in comparison to Boruto who was most likely self taught (outside of the bar Academy stuff everyone learns). I can only base this on the fact that it said he learned Kage Bunshin without training, and before that, we only see him playing tag with his father (which would probably be like a sparring game). However the shadow Clone Jutsu is understandable from your part. The rest of his skill set is learned during the Movie, in a fast process.

Himawari deserves SM.

Agreed. Himawari with SM is a bad-ass thought.

More females need to shine. Plus, she should be learning some of Naruto's skill set too.

 

[KingHashirama]

You could just attribute a different thought process to his son. If you watched the Movie, he knowingly doesn't like to train much, and looks for short cuts when things become too difficult for him.

He even argues to Naruto, whom tells him he needs to train more rigorously with his team mates, that he doesn't need to because 'he learned this and that' without much needed practice. Anyway, I think it's fair to access the latter because Naruto was trained by Jiraiya for three years straight, in comparison to Boruto who was most likely self taught. I can only base this on the fact that it said he learned Kage Bunshin without training, and before that, we only see him playing tag with his father (which would probably be like a sparring game). However the shadow Clone Jutsu is understandable from your part.

Naruto was trained by Jiraiya on the basics, and kurama control training (the bigger part). And that was a Naruto who pretty much sucked in everything except Kage bunshin. Because Naruto is also for the first time getting used to "family", getting used to comfort. But Boruto also had the help of people like Konohamaru (don't mention Kishi's troll with him xD ahahahah), and his own pops sometimes.

Plus, you have the big difference in environment.

 

[lndra]

Naruto was trained by Jiraiya on the basics, and kurama control training (the bigger part). And that was a Naruto who pretty much sucked in everything except Kage bunshin. Because Naruto is also for the first time getting used to "family", getting used to comfort. But Boruto also had the help of people like Konohamaru (don't mention Kishi's troll with him xD ahahahah), and his own pops sometimes.

Plus, you have the big difference in environment.

True. Honestly I think if Naruto started off where Boruto was and left with Jiraiya, he would of became a more proficient shinobi by a landslide. In the sense of combating Hebi Sasuke early on head to head.

I respect Konohamaru somewhat, but when he was training Boruto the Rasengan, he kind of sucked, ironically.

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Konohamaru: Watch me carefully, then you do it like 'eh'
Boruto: I know! I know!
Boruto: But it isn't working like 'eh'
Konohamaru: Don't talk like me!
Boruto: No ... 'eh'... means this.
Boruto: "EH" means this in my hand
Konohamaru: Quit saying eh, eh, eh!
Boruto: Speak for yourself!

The rest of the conversation ends with Boruto getting mad at the fact that this training is proving difficult, and then Konohamaru tells the boy just how difficult the technique was to learn.

Anyway, I pointed out the conversation because Konohamaru is explaining to Boruto how to pop the ballon, without really showing him how to pop the ballon through language. He was just telling Boruto to follow in example, by forcing the ballon to explode. What's worse is that Konohamaru's useful tips involved the word "eh', as in "Do it like eh", which frustrated the kid when trying to ask Konohamaru for guidance.

Now take a look at Jiraiya explaining it to Naruto:

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Felt that Konohamaru was dumb here.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

He needs a byukagan first because the way I see it. He doesn't have one.
Maybe he'll get some uzamaki stuff.

 

[Sage of Doujutsu]

Yeah I mean honestly, I think the parallels with his grandfather are there, if you ask me.

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What-ever attributed to Minato being a Genius early on (outside of the abilities we know that were generated; Flying Thunder God, Created the Rasengan, etc.,). I guess you could comply that to his Grandson, whom also is showing talent that probably won't be seen in his generation, outside of himself, and you could even argue we haven't seen 'some' of this Genius early on in different generations too.

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, learning the Kage Bunshin without training, and learning to utilize Fuuton, Raiton, and recently Suiton elemental natures.

Then you have the fact that Boruto succeeded where both his Father (I'll explain this part below), Grandfather, and Kakashi failed. In applying

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to his Rasengan. In comparison to his Father, Naruto argued that the task was too difficult because it was like looking

You must be registered for see links

, which is why Kakashi later proposed the idea of splitting the effort of making the technique with the aid of shadow clones. Meanwhile Boruto applied his Nature Chakra on his

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. Naruto later did the same once he was bestowed Rikudou chakra.

I think the scariest part of this feat is that Kakashi proposed that the technique resulting in a 'Nature-chakra' Rasengan

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, and the guy pulled off his own S Rank difficulty (not power wise, but difficulty wise) at 12. So that really says a lot about his 'Genius', or 'potential'.

It would be a damn shame if they don't work on these parallels with his Grandfather. Even though he wants nothing to do with the Hokage position. Either-way, I feel like they might nerf him a bit. We'll see.

True. In the movie he seemed fairly unskilled for a prodigy and heavily reliant on the bs ninja tool he used, I wanna see more of his actual talent.

 

[Michael]

Am I to understand you are calling Indra/Ashura/Prime Hiruzen/ Alive Tobirama/ Sasuke Sarutobi/Kakashi's dad fodders, because Kishimoto didn't take the time to display their combat on panel, but instead chose to make reference about their strength? Or are you just trolling with this childish logic?

Nope. I'm just telling you the fact that Minato is a more capable fighter than Hiruzen, based on the entirety of the manga. Unless you can disprove that statement with feats.

No need to argue guys, hiruzen knew the deal when it came to Minato.

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Also didn't alive Minato canonically defeat hiruzen in order to become hokage?

 

[Seventh Sama]

Has quite the Impact, don't you agree?

Ye, my post also got a dislike. Awesome.

 

[V h o]

Ill be happy with that.

 

[Nick01]

Agreed. Himawari with SM is a bad-ass thought.

More females need to shine. Plus, she should be learning some of Naruto's skill set too.

I agree.

 

[KingHashirama]

No need to argue guys, hiruzen knew the deal when it came to Minato.

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Also didn't alive Minato canonically defeat hiruzen in order to become hokage?

No clue if you are able to look at your own scan or not.. he started the seal right after/during the first hokage's edo box.. just saying.

 

[TrollingSage]

Hiruzen's feat = God of Shinobi, The professor, Mastering of many combat forms

Minato's feat = Fastest shinobi, stalemating Killer B/Ay and then of course retreating from them, making obito retreat, and sealing Kurama with the help of his wife.

So by "feats" aka accomplishments Hiruzen is superior. UNLESS you are referring to on-panel combat feats.. then in order to compare them you are going to have to show us where Prime Hiruzen was given the chance to display on-panel combat feats.

And your argument pretty much sums up to "Prime Hiruzen is inferior because he hasn't shown anything".. which is the most childish logic, when comparing 2 characters who have different panel times in a manga.

PS: If you are gonna reply with "So you have no feats".. then might as well not reply.

Minato single handedly won a war for Konoha and had a "flee on his sight" order on his head. What did Hiruzen accomplish aside from getting the village wrecked by his own disciple?

 

[konoha Sev7n]

Boruto would turn out to be new itachi.. doesn't need much screen time an get things done in short amount of panel time with epic talent an disappear, until much later on when an epic moment is needed...lol

storm 4 show Boruto combining each nature element into this spiralling ball to have an element effect.

boruto would learn whole bunch of stuff an the person that would show him an teach him would be Orochimaru lol

Konohamaru show boruto how he was teach by naruto when he was an kid.. the same.. do this an hmmmm that oh look at this etc..

Minato was talent an had this way with people, even enemies..

Hiruzen is old timer that sat on this title of third god of shinobi.. if he had danzo intent he would of wipe out other villages lol.. just got old an slow an weaker..lol

if himawari had Hashirama prowess with this unique senju senjutsu sage mode an wood release an raw power an charka she be so dangerous...

 

[Sage of Doujutsu]

Minato single handedly won a war for Konoha and had a "flee on his sight" order on his head. What did Hiruzen accomplish aside from getting the village wrecked by his own disciple?

The Title "God Of Shinobi".... and teacher of the three legendary sanin

 

[Michael]

No clue if you are able to look at your own scan or not.. he started the seal right after/during the first hokage's edo box.. just saying.

Hiruzen fought hashirama and tobirama no problem, the moment hiruzen spotted the third coffin which had "fourth" on it he immediately assessed that as the major threat. FTG is no joke and along with his fuuin jutsu and genius, I understand why hiruzen prevented his revival at all cost.