Boruto getting a rival? or a love story?

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Itachi never dreamed to be a Hokage. Until Sasuke starts caring for his clan his clan as a whole will stay dead.

haha yeah technically no. He does in the Itachi novel. "The dream that Itachi aimed for. His dream: A Hokage from the Uchiha Clan."

But Itachi did think about the world like a Hokage, with him putting the village first above everything else. He sacrificed everything for the village so Sarada's dream does seem similar to his dream.

Edit: Also I think it'd be interesting to see what Sarada does for the Uchiha clan as she becomes Hokage. The whole issue of the Uchiha clan being massacred was swept under the rug. There was no true acknowledgment of what Itachi had to do for the sake of the village. It'd be great if Sarada gave more honor to the clan and what they had to go through. And in the position of Hokage I think she'd be able to do that.
 
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Sarada can't marry Boruto. The Uchiha name will go away.
She doesn't have to if she doesn't want it. I don't see why people care though.

She'll always be an Uchiha, even if she ever took the last name Uzumaki. Which I doubt.
 

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haha yeah technically no. He does in the Itachi novel. "The dream that Itachi aimed for. His dream: A Hokage from the Uchiha Clan."

But Itachi did think about the world like a Hokage, with him putting the village first above everything else. He sacrificed everything for the village so Sarada's dream does seem similar to his dream.

Itachi did it by being in the shadows. Sarada is doing it while being outside of the shadows. If anything it is Sasuke who is following Itachi's true dream.

Edit: Also I think it'd be interesting to see what Sarada does for the Uchiha clan as she becomes Hokage. The whole issue of the Uchiha clan being massacred was swept under the rug. There was no true acknowledgment of what Itachi had to do for the sake of the village. It'd be great if Sarada gave more honor to the clan and what they had to go through. And in the position of Hokage I think she'd be able to do that.

Does Sarada even know what the Uchiha clan is about?
 

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Itachi did it by being in the shadows. Sarada is doing it while being outside of the shadows. If anything it is Sasuke who is following Itachi's true dream.



Does Sarada even know what the Uchiha clan is about?

The goals would be the same: protect the village, bring peace to the village etc. That's why Sasuke was described as the second Hokage.

Sarada is young. She can learn. She knows the basics from her mother but Sasuke needs to teach her the rest. Either way she'd be the first Uchiha Hokage so in that way she can bring some honor to the clan.
 

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The goals would be the same: protect the village, bring peace to the village etc. That's why in a way Sasuke was described as the second Hokage.

The goals maybe the same but the message is very different. Itachi's way taught you that you do not need to be famous to do the right thing. The Hokage way taught you, that you need to be famous to do the right thing. Both messages are polar opposites to one another. That is why this comparison makes no sense.

Sarada is young. She can learn. She knows the basics from her mother but Sasuke needs to teach her the rest. Either way she'd be the first Uchiha Hokage so in that way she can bring some honor to the clan.

Sakura hardly knows anything about the Uchiha clan to teach the basics to her daughter. Like Sarada doesn't even know a basic fireball jutsue. Her only hope is if Sasuke actually gives time to his daughter. But as you know he is always traveling all the time. So it looks like Sarada will be Uchiha by name not by her way of honor. Which gets me wondering where does this Uchiha honor comes from?
 

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The goals maybe the same but the message is very different. Itachi's way taught you that you do not need to be famous to do the right thing. The Hokage way taught you, that you need to be famous to do the right thing. Both messages are polar opposites to one another. That is why this comparison makes no sense.

Except Sarada doesn't want to be famous. She wants to be Hokage because she admires Naruto. Naruto on the other hand wanted to be recognized by the village so he chose being the Hokage as his goal. The Hokage isn't just about being famous. It's also about taking care of the village and the people in it. Naruto treated Sarada like family so I think Sarada really liked that part of being Hokage.

Sakura hardly knows anything about the Uchiha clan to teach the basics to her daughter. Like Sarada doesn't even know a basic fireball jutsue. Her only hope is if Sasuke actually gives time to his daughter. But as you know he is always traveling all the time. So it looks like Sarada will be Uchiha by name not by her way of honor. Which gets me wondering where does this Uchiha honor comes from?

It's not Sarada's fault that Sasuke couldn't teach her. All she needs is time to train with her dad. It's not like it'll never happen. The end of the Boruto movie made it seem like Sasuke had finished his mission so he can train her now. Well the Uchihas have always been pretty proud of their clan. I think it grew after the Uchihas felt isolated from the village so they felt like they had to rely on themselves.
 

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Except Sarada doesn't want to be famous. She wants to be Hokage because she admires Naruto. Naruto on the other hand wanted to be recognized by the village so he chose being the Hokage as his goal. The Hokage isn't just about being famous. It's also about taking care of the village and the people in it. Naruto treated Sarada like family so I think Sarada really liked that part of being Hokage.



It's not Sarada's fault that Sasuke couldn't teach her. All she needs is time to train with her dad. It's not like it'll never happen. The end of the Boruto movie made it seem like Sasuke had finished his mission so he can train her now. Well the Uchihas have always been pretty proud of their clan. I think it grew after the Uchihas felt isolated from the village so they felt like they had to rely on themselves.

Sasuke leaves again in the end of the Boruto novel. :(
I don't know if you consider the novel as canon (I don't consider it canon myself), but I think leaving again is something that Sasuke would do.
 

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Except Sarada doesn't want to be famous. She wants to be Hokage because she admires Naruto. Naruto on the other hand wanted to be recognized by the village so he chose being the Hokage as his goal. The Hokage isn't just about being famous. It's also about taking care of the village and the people in it. Naruto treated Sarada like family so I think Sarada really liked that part of being Hokage.

You become famous rather you want to be or not. That method of doing things gives you fame. Which is polar opposite of what Itachi was about. Its like you are ignoring Itachi's real message by comparing little bits and pieces with Sarada. Yes his methods were like of a Hokage's however he showed us that you don't need fame to have that sort of thinking. Any normal human being can be that person.

It's not Sarada's fault that Sasuke couldn't teach her. All she needs is time to train with her dad. It's not like it'll never happen. The end of the Boruto movie made it seem like Sasuke had finished his mission so he can train her now. Well the Uchihas have always been pretty proud of their clan. I think it grew after the Uchihas felt isolated from the village so they felt like they had to rely on themselves.

I never said it is Sarada's fault. It is just how it is being portrayed. With the way things are going right now I doubt there is anyone there who can teach her the Uchiha history. Sasuke does not seem to give a **** about the Uchiha clan. He is freely walking around to make sure no threats like Kaguya appear. Its obvious that his intentions are not there to revive his clan. Hence why placing someone's else's goals on Sarada seems far fetched to me.
 

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You become famous rather you want to be or not. That method of doing things gives you fame. Which is polar opposite of what Itachi was about. Its like you are ignoring Itachi's real message by comparing little bits and pieces with Sarada. Yes his methods were like of a Hokage's however he showed us that you don't need fame to have that sort of thinking. Any normal human being can be that person.

Well yeah there are differences. But I feel they're similar enough to be compared. One is in the light and the other is in the shadows. Again the same way Sasuke is said to be second Hokage. Anyway I mostly just brought it up because of Itachi's novel. I don't really take the comparison too seriously.

I never said it is Sarada's fault. It is just how it is being portrayed. With the way things are going right now I doubt there is anyone there who can teach her the Uchiha history. Sasuke does not seem to give a **** about the Uchiha clan. He is freely walking around to make sure no threats like Kaguya appear. Its obvious that his intentions are not there to revive his clan. Hence why placing someone's else's goals on Sarada seems far fetched to me.

You make it seem like it's her fault. You always bring it up. It's kind of hard to tell what Sasuke is thinking. I'm sure if the story went on she'd find a way to learn about it. Even if Sasuke doesn't care (which I'm not sure if he does), Sarada can at least ask him what happened.
 

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Well yeah there are differences. But I feel they're similar enough to be compared. One is in the light and the other is in the shadows. Again the same way Sasuke is said to be second Hokage. Anyway I mostly just brought it up because of Itachi's novel. I don't really take the comparison too seriously.

You do know that the novels are not canon right? And novel debates would not work on me. I seriously did not know any of this till you mentioned it. My knowledge is up there with the canon stuff. Nothing more.

You make it seem like it's her fault. You always bring it up. It's kind of hard to tell what Sasuke is thinking. I'm sure if the story went on she'd find a way to learn about it. Even if Sasuke doesn't care (which I'm not sure if he does), Sarada can at least ask him what happened.

You come up with that assumption when I am being very realistic about it. Even as a fan you should be a little open minded on reading a debate. And btw that would only happen if the story went on. Only in someones fanfic you will see it happen.
 

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Sasuke leaves again in the end of the Boruto novel. :(
I don't know if you consider the novel as canon (I don't consider it canon myself), but I think leaving again is something that Sasuke would do.

I think he'll still do more missions. He's a ninja after all. But I don't think it'll be like it was before. He'll probably just do short missions from now on. And especially now that Momoshiki and Kinshiki were defeated I don't think there's any rush to go dimension hopping again. He should be able to rest in the village for a good while. The Boruto novel didn't confirm he left though. It just left it to the imagination since he was just described as disappearing into the shadows. If he was really leaving he would have been shown saying goodbye to everyone.
 

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Sasuke leaves again in the end of the Boruto novel. :(
I don't know if you consider the novel as canon (I don't consider it canon myself), but I think leaving again is something that Sasuke would do.
I was scared of that because of the possible continuation plots.... Kishimoto left it out there.

If he does continue the series, just bet that Sasuke will be out on his mission for another 4 years again :|

The one thing the movie failed to address is the Otsutsuki numbers. We don't know if these two were the last one's.
 

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A little of both, but mostly love I guess.
 

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You do know that the novels are not canon right? And novel debates would not work on me. I seriously did not know any of this till you mentioned it. My knowledge is up there with the canon stuff. Nothing more.

Oh yeah I know they're not canon. There are similarities but I just brought it up for fun. I don't take it too seriously.

You come up with that assumption when I am being very realistic about it. Even as a fan you should be a little open minded on reading a debate. And btw that would only happen if the story went on. Only in someones fanfic you will see it happen.

Well yeah I'm thinking ahead to what would happen next. Why would you assume that things are going to stay the same way that they are? Sarada will continue to learn as she gets older. It's not that weird to think that Sasuke will teach her new things. He's her dad after all. It might take longer than we'd like but she should be able to learn Uchiha things eventually.
 

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Oh yeah I know they're not canon. There are similarities but I just brought it up for fun. I don't take it too seriously.

Good to know that humanity still has some hope left in this world.

Well yeah I'm thinking ahead to what would happen next. Why would you assume that things are going to stay the same way that they are? Sarada will continue to learn as she gets older. It's not that weird to think that Sasuke will teach her new things. He's her dad after all. It might take longer than we'd like but she should be able to learn Uchiha things eventually.

Can you name me a Uchiha that learned a basic fireball jutsue at the age of 12? What you are using is a mere assumption. What I am using is the portrayal of the manga plus assumption. I am thinking ahead just like you. But I am doing it in a way the manga showed it. Sarada is simply not living a Uchiha life. She is living a normal girl life. Her attacks so far show it.
 

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I was scared of that because of the possible continuation plots.... Kishimoto left it out there.

If he does continue the series, just bet that Sasuke will be out on his mission for another 4 years again :|

The one thing the movie failed to address is the Otsutsuki numbers. We don't know if these two were the last one's.

Yeah, definitely. Kishi indeed opened some doors to a possible continuation. I mean, Chapter 700 to 700+ and the movie are pretty much of a confirmation for that, and also the fact that he introduced a whole new generation.

Regarding the Otsutsukis, if the continuation happens, they will probably be in it, which is kinda annoying because imo the Otsutsuki are pretty overused. I hope Kishi can introduce some new ideas if he really decides to continue.

Honestly, I would like to see a continuation focusing on this new generation.
 
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Good to know that humanity still has some hope left in this world.



Can you name me a Uchiha that learned a basic fireball jutsue at the age of 12? What you are using is a mere assumption. What I am using is the portrayal of the manga plus assumption. I am thinking ahead just like you. But I am doing it in a way the manga showed it. Sarada is simply not living a Uchiha life. She is living a normal girl life. Her attacks so far show it.

I'm sorry but how in the world is Sarada is supposed to learn Katon without Sasuke being there to teach her? Sasuke had his dad to teach him Uchiha techniques. Same with every other Uchiha who had their parents there to teach them. Can you name me a Uchiha that learned Katon without their parents there? There's none. Because it's never been seen before. You're assuming the worst case scenario. The Uchiha heritage is important to Sakura and Sarada otherwise they wouldn't be wearing the fan on their back. In the Boruto movie, Boruto mentioned Sarada's specialty was Shuriken jutsu which coincidentally was also Itachi's specialty. So she is able to do something that ties her to the clan.
 

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Yeah, definitely. Kishi indeed opened some do doors to a possible continuation. I mean, Chapter 700 to 700+ and the movie are pretty much of a confirmation for that, and also the fact that he introduced a whole new generation.

Regarding the Otsutsukis, if the continuation happens, they will probably be in it, which is kinda annoying because imo the Otsutsuki are pretty overused. I hope Kishi can introduce some new ideas if he really decides to continue.

Honestly, I would like to see a continuation focusing on this new generation.
That's my biggest fear. How can the series continue for the next generation when they still need Naruto and Sasuke as Main Characters? No one can fight them, bar these two. Meaning for the most part, they'll steal the spotlight. Boruto the supposed MC of the Movie, played a side role when it came to battles against the Otsutsuki. Even his contribution was more or less with Naruto or Sasuke by his side.

Even as Adults, depending on whether Sarada/Boruto will be mid-high Kage Level, we saw how strong non-Rikudou boosted characters are against the Otsutsuki ... and they didn't really last long. They even took out a PJ (Killer Bee).

So if he does continue this plot, it'll definitely be to wank more Naruto/Sasuke, with the next generation riding their coattails.
 

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I'm sorry but how in the world is Sarada is supposed to learn Katon without Sasuke being there to teach her? Sasuke had his dad to teach him Uchiha techniques.

That's quiet funny cause this has been something I have been asking you this whole time. How will Sarada learn the Uchiha heritage if Sasuke is away from the village all the time? Yet for some reason you think her becoming Hokage will have anything to do with the Uchiha history. When in the manga her reasons of becoming Hokage had nothing to do with her Uchiha background.

Same with every other Uchiha who had their parents there to teach them. Can you name me a Uchiha that learned Katon without their parents there? There's none.Because it's never been seen before.

You see the thing is unlike those other Uchiha's. Sarada has a parent there, who is by blood not an Uchiha. In this situation only the father is an actual blooded Uchiha. The kid will only learn the most from the parent they see most. In this case it is a character who is outside of the Uchiha background. So Sarada is only learning off the person who she is with.

You're assuming the worst case scenario.

Nope I am assuming what I see here.

Logic >>> fanfic

Is Sasuke in the village most of the time? The answer is nope.
Is Sasuke giving his daughter any lessons on what it takes to be an Uchiha? The answer is nope.
Is there a guarantee that Sasuke will stay in the village to run his clan for the future? The answer is nope.
Is Sakura an actual blooded Uchiha who knows the whole history of the Uchiha? The answer is nope.


The Uchiha heritage is important to Sakura and Sarada otherwise they wouldn't be wearing the fan on their back.

They don't know ABC about the Uchiha heritage. How would it be important to them? Going by your logic the Uchiha heritage is nothing to Sasuke. That is why he does not wear it on his back. The crest alone does not determine how much you know of a clan. It is the acts they portray that are clan related.

In the Boruto movie, Boruto mentioned Sarada's specialty was Shuriken jutsu which coincidentally was also Itachi's specialty. So she is able to do something that ties her to the clan.

Throwing kunai is not only Itachi's specialty. it is Tenten's specialty to. I am assuming Tenten is part of the Uchiha clan now since it ties in with the Uchiha clan.
 
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