Not to knock your opinion but most of this is simply wishful thinking and baseless assumptions especially @bold. It doesn't really add anything too the discussion and definitely doesn't counter what I originally said.
Again: Not to knock your opinion but this is simply baseless, It doesn't really add anything too the discussion and definitely doesn't counter what I originally said.
She didn't seem interested in the position anyway.
You're misconstruing what I said and what I mean, I've never faulted Hinata's moral compass in contrast to why she wasn't picked over her sister or was overlooked because of her "then" superiority in jutsu. Which is one of the reasons why she was inferior enough to her little sister too lose her position and future among her clan but again I'm speaking in past tense.
Yeah, then maybe after Hanabi's funeral, Hiashi will finally consider Neji. :lol
Not to knock your opinion but most of this is simply wishful thinking and baseless assumptions especially @bold. It doesn't really add anything too the discussion and definitely doesn't counter what I originally said.
Again: Not to knock your opinion but this is simply baseless, It doesn't really add anything too the discussion and definitely doesn't counter what I originally said.
Both and Bold never happened. As I said, Hinata never expressed motivation to keeping the position nor receiving it. So I don't consider it as being taken.
Unless you have clear proof that Hanabi in fact took her inheritance, which by that I don't mean titles or positions or anything to do with the like.
Hardly. I don't hate any fictional characters. Nor do I go out of my way creating threads for the sheer purpose of downplaying other fictional characters.
Wonder what the story of the Byakugan means. Probably just a recap of its abilities since its been so long. Although Hiashi does know they come from space apparently.
Most definitely an alien, either a Toneri-type or Momoshiki-type. I think Boruto's is kind of different because Naruto/Sasuke/Hinata were either dead/unconscious, or in Hinata's case, was conscious when they talked to Hagoromo/Hamura.
The episode translation when Yagamati released it said that the person showed him an eye technique, but considering Boruto's Dojutsu has been unconsciously activating itself since the weird chakra came, it's pretty clear that the mysterious figure didn't give him anything. More over since Boruto believes he can activate his Dojutsu (which he believes to be a Byakugan), after the dream, and fails to do so. I'm thinking that the dream was misinterpreted, and that Boruto had no idea what was really going on/being said, but thought it had something to do with him activating his eye.
The thing is from a reader/watcher narrative, we already knew Boruto's Dojutsu wasn't a Byakugan, but I think this was important for him to realize that without a doubt, what he is seeing, is not something that is due to him having the Byakugan-Dojutsu.
So overall this most likely is going to end without really giving a clear explanation on what his eye is, but the setup is real.
I've posted facts, not my opinion because it is a fact that Hinata lost her inheritance as the future leader of her clan to her younger sister due to her abilities at the time being inferior and her father decided she wasn't qualified because of her lack of ability. You can't post scans that support "Hinata going easy on Hanabi" because it wasn't insinuated at any level, that being the reason she lost to her younger sister is your assumption.
I would like for you to explain to me how this is baseless as a fact.. Hinata's much younger sister Hanabi took her place as the heiress to their clan because her ability was below the same much younger sister.
Hinata didn't lose her birthright as future head of her clan to her younger sister? Hinata was never meant to be the head of her clan since she was the first born?
As I said, Hinata never expressed motivation to keeping the position nor receiving it. So I don't consider it as being taken.
What she expressed or if she was motivated to succeed her father as the head of her clan is irrelevant to my point because once again I've never based anything I said on her personality, character or morality. I simply pointed out that Hinata was the first born which inherently made her the future leader of her clan but her father took her inheritance or chance to succeed him because he deemed her younger sister Superior. Hinata never had a choice to lead her clan or even expressed that she didn't want to fulfill her Birthright.
Again everything you stated cannot be proven by the manga cannot be proved by the manga and doesn't counter a word that I've said.
Unless you have clear proof that Hanabi in fact took her inheritance, which by that I don't mean titles or positions or anything to do with the like
Titles and positions our inheritance, you don't get to rewrite the meanings of words and what they apply too.
Word: inherit
Definition: receive (money, property, or a title) as an heir at the death of the previous holder.
Hardly. I don't hate any fictional characters. Nor do I go out of my way creating threads for the sheer purpose of downplaying other fictional characters.
The only thing hanabi would die from is old age at this point and Neji's dead so how would he be considered for anything? Zombies?
I've posted facts, not my opinion because it is a fact that Hinata lost her inheritance as the future leader of her clan to her younger sister due to her abilities at the time being inferior and her father decided she wasn't qualified because of her lack of ability. You can't post scans that support "Hinata going easy on Hanabi" because it wasn't insinuated at any level, that being the reason she lost to her younger sister is your assumption.
I would like for you to explain to me how this is baseless as a fact.. Hinata's much younger sister Hanabi took her place as the heiress to their clan because her ability was below the same much younger sister.
Lmao ignoring them facts huh?
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Hinata didn't lose her birthright as future head of her clan to her younger sister? Hinata was never meant to be the head of her clan since she was the first born?
What she expressed or if she was motivated to succeed her father as the head of her clan is irrelevant to my point because once again I've never based anything I said on her personality, character or morality. I simply pointed out that Hinata was the first born which inherently made her the future leader of her clan but her father took her inheritance or chance to succeed him because he deemed her younger sister Superior. Hinata never had a choice to lead her clan or even expressed that she didn't want to fulfill her Birthright.
Again everything you stated cannot be proven by the manga cannot be proved by the manga and doesn't counter a word that I've said.
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Titles and positions our inheritance, you don't get to rewrite the meanings of words and what they apply too.
Word: inherit
Definition: receive (money, property, or a title) as an heir at the death of the previous holder.
Lmao you full of shit and you know it, the character you bash is Sakura (troll is note accurate).
Should've used viz. Tho idk why people ignore that scan. Hanabi has or should have been getting stronger training with her dad. Hinata got stronger to but Hanabi was stronger than her in part 1 and have/should have been training since then to become head of the Hyuga.
Should've used viz. Tho idk why people ignore that scan. Hanabi has or should have been getting stronger training with her dad. Hinata got stronger to but Hanabi was stronger than her in part 1 and have/should have been training since then to become head of the Hyuga.
And here I thought we were talking about early part 1. :lol
Pity.
I've posted facts, not my opinion because it is a fact that Hinata lost her inheritance as the future leader of her clan to her younger sister due to her abilities at the time being inferior and her father decided she wasn't qualified because of her lack of ability. You can't post scans that support "Hinata going easy on Hanabi" because it wasn't insinuated at any level, that being the reason she lost to her younger sister is your assumption.
The only thing you posted is that same scan, which states that from Hiashi's point of view, Hanabi was superior than Hinata thus leading him to make Hanabi new heiress of the clan. However their personalities/morals/character plays a role in ones overall performance, whether you like it or not. Still not much of a loss in Hinata case, considering she never once shown interest in being head.
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^Based on that, it makes sense why Hiashi would think Hanabi is superior and why he made her the new heiress over Hinata.
Bold - Also Going by your logic, Hinata vs Hanabi never happened. Meaning Hiashi evaluated them separately and Hinata never lost to Hanabi in a fight.
I would like for you to explain to me how this is baseless as a fact.. Hinata's much younger sister Hanabi took her place as the heiress to their clan because her ability was below the same much younger sister.
In Hiashi's eyes that is. His word isn't law. He was blind to what Hinata was truly capable of. Believe it or not, personality play a part in ones performance. You can say Hanabi was more ambitious in being head, meanwhile Hinata was not. Thus leading to Hiashi making Hanabi the new heiress of the clan.
Lmao ignoring them facts huh?
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Hinata didn't lose her birthright as future head of her clan to her younger sister? Hinata was never meant to be the head of her clan since she was the first born?
Nope.
She basically gave it up. She has no ambition in being head of the clan. So Hiashi deemed her inferior to Hanabi was made the new heir.
It was hardly a loss in Hinata case tbh.
What she expressed or if she was motivated to succeed her father as the head of her clan is irrelevant to my point because once again I've never based anything I said on her personality, character or morality. I simply pointed out that Hinata was the first born which inherently made her the future leader of her clan but her father took her inheritance or chance to succeed him because he deemed her younger sister Superior. Hinata never had a choice to lead her clan or even expressed that she didn't want to fulfill her Birthright.
Again everything you stated cannot be proven by the manga cannot be proved by the manga and doesn't counter a word that I've said.
You're right about Hinata was supposed to be leader 'only' because she was born first than her sister. However it's not a loss when Hinata doesn't care for it. At the time, Hiashi deemed Hanabi superior, but only because he didn't like what he saw in Hinata nor did he realize at the time what Hinata was truly capable of.
The point you're making is this : In Hiashi's eyes, he deemed an ambitious Hanabi superior over a shy, kind, and insecure Hinata. Thus chose to make her the new heir over the less capable Hinata.
Which I agree, but Hiashi would surely have a different opinion about her if he witnessed what Kurenai saw in the Chunin exams.
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Titles and positions our inheritance, you don't get to rewrite the meanings of words and what they apply too.
Word: inherit
Definition: receive (money, property, or a title) as an heir at the death of the previous holder.
I'm not trying to, all I'm asking for is proof that Hanabi was given Hinata's inheritance, of course excluding titles/positions.
I know what the word means.
If 'all' you mean't was the title, then why not just say it. :lol
Lmao you full of shit and you know it, the character you bash is Sakura (troll is note accurate).
Easy there. You're letting your butthurt get the better of you. Stop talking like I bash her 24/7, like you lot do with Hinata.
If I'm full of shit, then tell me, when did I make a thread/s with the soul purpose of bashing characters. I never stated that I don't bash characters. Sure I admit to bashing her sometimes, but most often than not, it's in retaliation to someone else who bashed a character I support.
So yeah, if anyone hates any characters it's your fanbase along with the insecurities being harbored there.
The only thing you posted is that same scan, which states that from Hiashi's point of view, Hanabi was superior than Hinata thus leading him to make Hanabi new heiress of the clan. However their personalities/morals/character plays a role in ones overall performance, whether you like it or not.
Hinata's personalitie/morals/character are irrelevant when it comes down to why she lost. Hashi said it best, Hinata couldn't measure up to Hanabi or wans't good enough, or as good as her and we both know he was talking about abilities.
Still not much of a loss in Hinata case, considering she never once shown interest in being head.
You getting off topic, I'm not speaking on whether or not Hinata actually wanted to succeed her father as of their clan (even though you can't post a scan of her saying or insinuatubg so), I'm saying Hinata was weaker then her 5 year old sister which lead to Hinata losing her inheritance.
Bold - Also Going by your logic, Hinata vs Hanabi never happened. Meaning Hiashi evaluated them separately and Hinata never lost to Hanabi in a fight.
It didn't have to happen in order for my original point too be true, which was Hinata's much younger sister Hanabi took her place as the heiress to their clan because her ability was below the same much younger sister. The manga correlates with my statement perfectly does it not?
Actaully it is lol, he's the head of the of Hyuga. An example of his word being a decree is the fact that he stripped Hinata of birthright (tittle) and positioned her lower then what she was meant to be.
You can say Hanabi was more ambitious in being head, meanwhile Hinata was not. Thus leading to Hiashi making Hanabi the new heiress of the clan.
@bold: I never said that or insinuated that. I never even elaborated or referenced on ambition (anything in between) so your once again getting off topic.
Nope.
She basically gave it up. She has no ambition in being head of the clan. So Hiashi deemed her inferior to Hanabi was made the new heir.
It was hardly a loss in Hinata case tbh.
Keep your fanfics, Hashi didn't take her title because she didn't want it, nor did Hinata not there factually not one that I love it was taken from her because her abilities we're not on par with her five-year-old sister.
Ambition had nothing to do with Hinata being weaker that her five-year-old sister it simply has to do with her skills being the Lesser between the two. If you read the Manga never once did Hashi reference anything other than skill when deeming Hanabi stronger.
Hanabi superior over a shy, kind, and insecure Hinata. Thus chose to make her the new heir over the less capable Hinata.
This isn't a excuse you know, it's a desperation your taking in order to not admit that Hinata wasn't on par with her five-year-old sister when they came to their skills. I mean you're acting as if the maker portrayed Hanabi as a morally strong person when she was five...
I'm not trying to, all I'm asking for is proof that Hanabi was given Hinata's inheritance, of course excluding titles/positions.
You won't find one post of me doing so but I can find mini post of you trolling Sakura in addition to threads where shes the topic and liking bash comments.
You up for the challenge?
The most I've said is that she isn't stronger then Sakura, which she isn't.
