Boruto Chapter 17
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TSB or IT are not mentioned as her strongest anything as far as I've seen (big up to you for being a Kaguya fan), but powerful techniques of hers. Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack though is mentioned to be her strongest attack if used in conjugation with her Byakugan (which she has already done against Naruto and Sasuke). So no misconception on my end, just saying what's in the Manga and Databook.Emm..Sorry Mori. I'm happy to see you whenever you appear in the threads but yeah its not a big deal but I need to correct "something"
You're brilliant using a Databook and I applause the effort but what I saw here you're "generalizing" or worked under "generalization" when the Databook talk about something "specific". Its not wise to personal attack people(Attacking people's reading comprehension) unless it warranted *only for specific people here*
Okey lets go straight to the point.
You and InfiniteMugen talked about "Kaguya's strongest tech" and Databook emphasizes on "Strongest offensive tech" and theres where the clash happen and you're mistaken for one thing. Databook talked about "specific" while the subject of yur arguments is "General". So we classify it into two categories; Strongest offensive tech and Strongest defensive tech and the "subject" we use here is Kaguya.
-Strongest offensive tech.
80Gods Vacuum Punch
-Strongest defensive tech.
TSB
We already got two clear examples and Databook supports it. So now we go to "Borderline" type of jutsu and here we have Expensive TSB and Infinite Tsukuyomi. What I mean by "Borderline" is that this jutsus are not tend/strongly incline to the either side, its in between. I've specifically said that TSB is the strongest defensive tech and yes bcus it has that "attribute" but it also has offensive attribute(Madara used it to attack Obito) thus it can be both so its inbetween. It also can be neither depends on the "purpose". What I meant by that? It has its meaning on Expensive TSB. Expensive TSB is neither defensive nor offensive bcus its purpose only to destroy all things.
So from that it sounds closer to the definition of "Kaguya's Strongest tech" a generalization statement. Therefore Expensive TSB is the strongest tech that Kaguya had and not 80Gods Vacuum Punch.
IT came in second spot. It also nor "defensive" nor "offensive". Not that I said all strongest tech in NV need to be in this kind of "category" but bcus Kaguya has it.
Come from Kaguya fan and my primary goal of becoming NB member is to spread truth and clarify the misconceptions. Peace
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DB said Strongest offensive tech tho and not her strongest tech. There a difference.
And logically says and whatever BS Databook put out we know clearly that Expensive TSB is Kaguya's strongest technique. We already know what Expensive TSB can do right? Its much more powerful and destructive than 80 Gods Vacuum Punch. So Please dont kid yurself by Databook statement bcus if you work your head to think logically in no way 80 Gods Vacuum Punch can be stronger than expensive TSB whatever DB said about it. Tell me how "logically" Vacuum Punch stronger than Expensive TSB? In what way?
So from now on let use Databook wisely.
No we don't as it never was mentioned it was her strongest technique. Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack was mentioned as her strongest (whether that's offensive technique or not), logically that's all you'd need to understand instead of trying to twist it to fit some narrative. Your logic is not needed here. Manga and Databook trumps your logic, And that's all that matters.
Her Truth seeking balls are mentioned to be powerful, even after show casing it's might, it was never said to be how strongest anything. But Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack was listed as her strongest technique. Really easy to understand if you tried.
So from now on use the Databook wisely.
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Oh so you trying to say the tech that can destroy a planet/dimension is weaker than 80 Gods Punch. BS
Even Naruto can counter her so called Strongest tech
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So much for her "strongest tech" BS supported by short thinking reader like you but Naruto and co unable to do anything infront of "this" unless they seal Kaguya
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And also this fact from manga
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Fuk what???? There is no specific narrative to fit here nor I twisting anything but just a logical inference supported by manga fact and not DB never ending confusing words or hyperbole. And Databook showing the lack of credential there by saying "Strongest offensive tech" when there exist Expensive TSB out there but I think its not DB fault but reader fault.
And dont bluff by saying that Manga and Databook trumps my logic when I'm using manga logic, feats and words to prove my point but you only referred to Databook. Shame at yurself bcus you're lying not just towards me but yurself also. You never used Manga to supported yur point. And I know in the manga Kaguya/narrative never stated anything like Databook statement about 80 Gods Vacuum Punch but BZ gave some explanation about Expensive TSB and its capability.
Therefore manga showing trumps Databook statement, defeat it completely. If Vacuum Punch is Kaguya's most powerful tech she will used it as her final attack but never.
Even Databook never gave any direct proclamation toward Vacuumv Punch instead it says "It can potentially be a Strongest offensive tech".
I question how limited your brain capacity is? Are you that dense that you unable to differentiate between reality and non-reality? Are you trolling? Are you incapable of logical thinking but just being a "cow"?, obeying to one thing and couldn't process a thought for yur own self, if they tell you A its A for you eventhough the A can be harmful, you just follow the order
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It's fantasy there's no reality here kid, grow up.
(Databook 4) Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack (八十神空撃, Yasogami Kūgeki) is a Kekkei Mora taijutsu used by Kaguya, made possible by her mastery of chakra. She loads chakra into her palm, and then unleashes it as a barrage of countless fists. The fist attacks can also be used defensively, and when coupled with Kaguya's perfect dojutsu, it has the potential to become the strongest offensive ability. The Hyuga clan uses a similar vacuum palm attack, Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm, but there is a wide gulf in power between the two.
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I've seen how powerful it is (Don't know what you've read, must have been something else), and her Eight Gods Vacuum Attack is the called her strongest technique and not her TSBs and that's Manga and Databook fact. Now your logic whatever you think is right don't mean shit. It says if it's used in conjugation with her Byakugan it has the potential to be her strongest technique, and we've seen her use it with her Byakugan. "Logically" according to what I've seen (your logic is shit in this case, don't count) it's her strongest technique by default.
You can question my brain capacity all you want that's your problem not mine, you're going to have to find a way to deal with that. It's fantasy there's no reality in it, And again only 1 was called her strongest attack. Trolling? You can believe that if it's helps you get back to "reality". Manga and Databook coincides with my logic, it sure as hell doesn't with yours. The rest of what you said is a bunch of nonsense.
So from now on use the Databook wisely.
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Nah dont need to post that DB bcus my memory still strong also it will not helping you that much.
Oh wooow! a capability of destroying a PS made it much more powerful than something that not just can erase PS from existence but whole planet also that much more durable than PS. Horseshit
You've seen how powerful it is like woah are you being there to see it? What a weak statement. Yeah I saw it too in the manga but she has other than that and its more powerful than God Vacuum Punch. By statement, potential and portrayal and its not a joke or a fantasy but a reality. A reality of NV. And if this tech(expensive TSB) is just a mouth piece or a public stunt why they afraid of it much more than 80 Gods Vacuum Punch? BZ and Kaguya not joking and someone like BZ that knows about many things would never utters false words if he is so certain and when there's a goal to succeed.
Cut the crap already and stop using Manga as excuses like you have used enough manga facts to prove your stupid belief.
No your entire argument actually much shorter and shallow than that as shallow as Databook statement. Can be sum up in two or three lines of words at best. Those long post of yours bring nil valid points and logic.
And yeah keep using those false and debunked DB statement when Naruto already countered and put a hole on the Punch if it help you having a good life.
And its true, you've thinking capability problem and not mine. Yur brain capacity is questionable.
" It's fantasy there's no reality in it" clearly this statement missed the actual point of my previous statement. What I meant by "reality" is all things that happen in the manga. Thats the true reality and not Databook statement(divert away from reality most if it). Bcus manga clearly disagee with DB in this case. We play by feats and level of power shown by manga and not DB statement.
But its all back to the earliest point that I told you. Your failure to traced the difference and the definition of the subject you're debating here is the main problem. Strongest offensive tech=/=Strongest overall tech/Strongest tech. Its down into classification. Here DB gave classification so you cant say its meant overall. If God Punch is intended to be Kaguya strongest tech there is no need for a classification of jutsu. And my logic is right and it mean shit bcus I understand the "context" of DB and I'm using manga panels to prove my point and debunked you and DB.
Plus databook using word "potential". So potential meant something to achieve but its not certain/set in stone and its hard to measure the level of the potential(strength) of something that's very loose.
You can see how Naruto plow through one of the chakra punch. Expensive TSB will never suffers from that lowest of point.
So here just accept that you're not right l, also learn how to read DB info and lastly Expensive TSB is Kaguya's strongest technique.
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I'll just repeat what I wrote (didn't read the block of nonsense you wrote).
(Databook 4) Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack (八十神空撃, Yasogami Kūgeki) is a Kekkei Mora taijutsu used by Kaguya, made possible by her mastery of chakra. She loads chakra into her palm, and then unleashes it as a barrage of countless fists. The fist attacks can also be used defensively, and when coupled with Kaguya's perfect dojutsu, it has the potential to become the strongest offensive ability. The Hyuga clan uses a similar vacuum palm attack, Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm, but there is a wide gulf in power between the two.
I've seen how powerful it is (Don't know what you've read, must have been something else), and her Eight Gods Vacuum Attack is the called her strongest technique and not her TSBs and that's Manga and Databook fact. Now your logic whatever you think is right don't mean shit. It says if it's used in conjugation with her Byakugan it has the potential to be her strongest technique, and we've seen her use it with her Byakugan. "Logically" according to what I've seen (your logic is shit in this case, don't count) it's her strongest technique by default.
The Manga and Databook trumps your "interpretation" of it. Learn to read and understand which one was called her strongest technique and which wasn't.
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The block of non sense actually came from your mind and to an extent DB
So called Kaguya strongest tech has been overpowered by Naruto
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So its not far fetched to say that Naruto can overpowered it again and again.
Thats why I questioning yur brain capacity and yur capability of logical thinking which I found non existence here.
Accepting all DB statement words by words Its akin to you accepting yur Government propaganda even though you know they are wrong 100% but you still follow them. If they say A you choose to follow A like that without any resistance. Thats what summarize your position in this debate.
And tell me how my logic is shit again? I saw there is nothing problem with my logic. Your counter to my point here is DB and not using Manga fact and logical deductions. Its bcus logic is on my side not yours or DB. Manga clearly portrayed that Expensive TSB is Kaguya's strongest tech. One at its best can destroys PS and the other one can destroys a planet. By default Expensive TSB is her strongest tech and no other. Even using 30% of its true power its enough to destroy PS let alone 100%, it can destroy a planet again I repeat. JJ Obito used one before
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That TSB(with Omnyoudon) has explosion power to destroy/erase v1, v2, v3 Susanoo easily. As Susanoo is a ninjutsu. So Expensive TSB has more than required destructive power to destroy a PS.
Give me a reason on why 80 Gods Vacuum Punch is stronger/more powerful than Expensive TSB, I'll waiting. DB this or that is not acceptable. Even Manga disagree with you by large margin.
And try to debunk this using all 80 Gods punch feats shown so far,
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Is it capable to destroy whole Planet/dimension????
Actually its similar when people asking what is Sasuke and Naruto strongest attack. The answer would be Indra Arrow and Full of NE Twin Rasenshuriken. And not Chidori Ama or 9 elements TBB FRSs. The strongest attack is an attack that you're using your full power and the attack is more destructive and more powerful than any other attacks you have. And again DB states "Strongest 'offensive' tech and not Kaguya's strongest tech, knows the diffrence M8. You repeatedly showing your inability to read and understand the "context" of DB statement
Look how many logical points I can give you and it can easily puts down DB statement and your logic. So counter it using a proper reasoning and not stuck yurself on DB like you're inside Izanami.
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I'll just repeat what I wrote (didn't read the block of nonsense you wrote).
(Databook 4) Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack (八十神空撃, Yasogami Kūgeki) is a Kekkei Mora taijutsu used by Kaguya, made possible by her mastery of chakra. She loads chakra into her palm, and then unleashes it as a barrage of countless fists. The fist attacks can also be used defensively, and when coupled with Kaguya's perfect dojutsu, it has the potential to become the strongest offensive ability. The Hyuga clan uses a similar vacuum palm attack, Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm, but there is a wide gulf in power between the two.
I've seen how powerful it is (Don't know what you've read, must have been something else), and her Eight Gods Vacuum Attack is the called her strongest technique and not her TSBs and that's Manga and Databook fact. Now your logic whatever you think is right don't mean shit. It says if it's used in conjugation with her Byakugan it has the potential to be her strongest technique, and we've seen her use it with her Byakugan. "Logically" according to what I've seen (your logic is shit in this case, don't count) it's her strongest technique by default.
The Manga and Databook trumps your "interpretation" of it. Learn to read and understand which one was called her strongest technique and which wasn't.
Only 1 was called her strongest anything, And it wasn't her TSBs.
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So it's official you need comprehension lessons.
Kekkei Mora don't exist without the Jyubi so it's confirmed that it's not a Hyuga/Byakugan jutsu. It also explains why the Hyuga can't use it and use a lesser version of it, or rather the Byakugan version of it that is. The same 1 kaguya would use had it not been because of the Jyubi.
2ndly has the potential to be the strongest doesn't make it the strongest. My advice learn the meaning of potential.
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Okey by posting the same post over and over again, also twisting DB statement to fit his own logic and the most importantly unable to counter all my points so I take that as you concurred to my point and admitted that you're wrong but play to survive by keep posting bcus of yur ego.
And again for the last time I take the chance to represent DB and will tell you this
*Databook never said 80 Gods Vacuum Attack as Kaguya's strongest technique but DB states 80 Gods Attack when coupled with Kaguya's perfect Doujutsu has a potential to be Strongest offensive ability. So there was no direct proclamation happen in DB."
*At best DB talked about Potential. Your premise can be valid only if Databook states "when coupled with Kaguya's perfect dojutsu, it will become Kaguya's strongest offensive ability. So far no such statement exist in DB. Thus its invalidated your entire logic/belief in this thread*
The only thing that can help you to be right in this arguments if you can show me a direct proclamation of Kaguya's strongest ability.
I will not repeat all things I've said before bcus I know you couldn't counter it. So far the Strongest ability Kaguya had is Expensive TSB. There's no need for any mentioning in DB on how strong/powerful expensive TSB is, BZ revelation is enough to put an idea inside our mind about Expensive TSB power level and its mile stronger than Vacuum Punch.
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It is not only made of chakra but it also requires all the elements.
Yeah, it is stated that the Expansive TSB can even create a new reality/dimension, that is how OP it is.
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Yet one dude here let himself to be blind and getting kid by Databook statement :lol
So much wrong with his logic
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There was a bond between the two I think Ao will teach boruto about his ability. Ao had to be teleported away from the bijou bomb maybe he unlocked something in his eye and will teach this to boruto but somehow Ao contact will benefit him
