Bolt is a Non-Hyuga

[Lord of Akatsuki]

Wrong again No Senju or Uchiha can be a Host to Kurama unless their DNA are combine, witch is what Madara and Obito did to hold the Juubi’s power or did you conveniently forgot from the Manga.

Lmao look at this kid.


Senju DNA = Uzumaki DNA. Senju = body, Uzumaki = body, Senju/Uzumaki = descendants of Ashura.


Nah bro, both DNA's don't need to combine to be the Juubi's Jin, rather you need the body to handle its power and the eyes to control it.
Bring manga scans otherwise it didn't happen.
Kurama does not equate Juubi.

Minato had the Kyuubi when alive, until you can counter this than you have no valid argument.

 

[SenseiSama]

Lmao look at this kid.


Senju DNA = Uzumaki DNA. Senju = body, Uzumaki = body, Senju/Uzumaki = descendants of Ashura.


Nah bro, both DNA's don't need to combine to be the Juubi's Jin, rather you need the body to handle its power and the eyes to control it.
Bring manga scans otherwise it didn't happen.
Kurama does not equate Juubi.

Minato had the Kyuubi when alive, until you can counter this than you have no valid argument.

Not really I think he's right in a way, Senju and Uzumaki have their differences I would say both clans have a strong body but Senju have more physical strength whereas Uzumakis have more life force.

I don't think the Senju can be jinchuurikis because they lack the sealing talent of the Uzumaki as well as their stamina, in general they will be shit compared to Naruto's clan and I doubt they would be able to contain Kurama, there's a reason only Uzumaki were chosen.

In addition Ashura's full potential was divided in half, one clan inherited the power to fight bijuu with Mokuton, the other clan inherited the power to use them (sealing jutsu), but both clans have the power to tame them (Wood Forrest, Chakra chains).

 

[Maryeuh]

Im half white and half black.

what am i?

 

[Zawerni]

Im half white and half black.

what am i?

Which parent do you look more like?

That's what you are, according to OP. :lol

 

[DoubleKamui]

Lol shit thread. Bolt is a Hyuga because his mother is one too. /thread

 

[Honord Sage]

Lmao look at this kid.


Senju DNA = Uzumaki DNA. Senju = body, Uzumaki = body, Senju/Uzumaki = descendants of Ashura.


Nah bro, both DNA's don't need to combine to be the Juubi's Jin, rather you need the body to handle its power and the eyes to control it.
Bring manga scans otherwise it didn't happen.
Kurama does not equate Juubi.

Minato had the Kyuubi when alive, until you can counter this than you have no valid argument.

Minato sealed His fate the minuet He sealed half of Kurama in Him Manga states only an Uzumaki cary Kurama all other die because they don’t have the special chakra for, 3 Host of Kurama sines the SO6P all have Uzumaki,Mito Uzumaki,Kushina Uzumaki and Naruto Uzumaki,thats a Manga Fact stop the Fan made assumption and read the Manga Facts by Kishi the only one with the legal right to define the terms.

 

[BraddahS]

Okay, so before I say anything else, let me say that this thread is so ridiculously stupid that I have taken it upon myself to make an account for the sole purpose of replying to PhoenixNejiHyuga. Yeah, I know that's a pretty stupid thing for me to do, but I couldn't help it. The stupidity is driving me insane.

Here's the thing. Boruto IS part Hyuuga. Assuming Hinata is 100% Hyuuga and Naruto is 50% Namikaze and 50% Uzumaki, Himawari and Boruto would both biologically be 25% Namikaze, 25% Uzumaki, and 50% Hyuuga. The same thing applies in the real world. Hypothetically, if my father was 100% Japanese and my mother was 50% Chinese and 50% Korean, then by the rules of genetics, I would be 50% Japanese, 25% Chinese, and 25% Korean. This is just how genes work. It isn't something that's up for discussion.

Now, let's talk about your theory about Boruto and Himawari. From what I understand, you do not classify Boruto as a Hyuuga because he has the physical appearance and personality of Naruto and because of your assumption that he will not learn any techniques from the main branch of the Hyuuga clan. And since Himawari has the physical appearance of Hinata, you assume that she will learn techniques from the main branch of the Hyuuga clan and therefore is classified as a Hyuuga.

First off, let's address the topic of appearance/personality. Just because Boruto looks more like Naruto or has a personality that is similar to Naruto, it does not change his biological makeup. He is still 50% Hyuuga, 25% Namikaze, and 25% Uzumaki. Same idea goes for Himawari with respect to Hinata. This is due to traits for appearance being dictated by either being dominant or recessive. When genes mix, the genes for a dominant trait will overpower a gene for a recessive trait. However, the recessive trait can still show in a person if a recessive trait mixes with another recessive trait. There's also the case of an entirely new trait being created from mixing genes (a new phenotype), but let's not get into that right now.

In this case for example, let's assume that the gene for Naruto's yellow hair color is dominant and the gene for Hinata's hair color is recessive. We can be safe to assume that for Boruto, the dominant gene for Naruto's yellow hair overpowered the gene for Hinata's hair color, leaving him with yellow hair. For Himawari, the gene for the recessive trait of Hinata's hair color must have mixed with another recessive trait, causing her to have Hinata's hair color.

In regards to personality, the answer is not so simple. From what we know from behavioral genetics today, we can clearly see that genes are an important factor in the personality of offspring. However, there's also the case of the environment in which each person was brought up in that can affect one's personality. It's called the Nature versus Nurture debate. Look it up.

What i'm trying to prove here is that although the physical appearance and personality of Boruto and Himawari lean towards a specific parent, it does not change their biological makeup. It does not matter what traits they inherited from their parents. They are still both part Hyuuga, Namikaze, and Uzumaki.

Next, let's address the topic of learning techniques from the Hyuuga clan. Performing a specific technique unique to a clan has nothing to do with the biological makeup of a person in that clan. Sure, they may be a disgrace to the clan and not be considered a true member of that clan, but they are still biologically part of that clan. Once you're born into a clan, you're biologically part of the clans of both your parents, and you can't be unborn into a clan. Take the Uchiha for example. Supposedly, you're not considered a true Uchiha/an adult until you perfect the Fireballl jutsu. This is not talking about biologically being an Uchiha, but being respected and recognized as one. Of course if a child is born from two Uchiha, that child will be an Uchiha - it's common sense. But if that child can't learn anything and fails to live up to the expectations placed by the clan, they might not recognize him/her as a true member of the clan. This is exactly the same as how you do not recognize Boruto as part Hyuuga because you think he won't learn any Hyuuga techniques.

Now, I know that your response to this might go something along the lines of:
"But still, it doesn't matter. If Boruto doesn't perform any bloodline techinique that he inherited from the Hyuuga clan, then I classify and consider a non-hyuga. He matches almost completely to Naruto so it's pointless for me to look for a fact that he's a Hyuga hybrid."

This is your opinion. Usually, I would say that everyone has the right to their own opinion. And in a sense, you do. You have the right to believe what you want to believe. However, it is completely okay for me to say that your opinion is wrong. I mean, hell, you still have a right to believe what you want to, but I just want to let you know that your belief is an incorrect one. Take for example someone learning math. Someone who doesn't understand multiplication very well can have the strong belief that 5 x 5 = 55, even though we all know that is incorrect. Many people will tell that person that 5 x 5 = 25, but that person may not budge, still strongly believing that he/she is right. Everyone around this person will become furious, face-palming at the his/her ignorance, but he/she still may believe that the answer is 55. And yes, he/she is entitled to that incorrect opinion, but we can all agree that it's pretty stupid.

The fact that you have your own opinion about the validity of Boruto's Hyuuga heritage doesn't really bother me (at least, not a whole lot). The thing that pisses me off is that you are trying to express your incorrect opinion as the truth, all while deeming everything that everyone else says as incorrect, even though what they are saying is (mostly) based off of fact. When people try to explain to you the truth, you brush it off and ignore it as if nothing but your opinion could possibly be right. What i'm trying to tell you is based off of science and is something you just can't fight. A simple google search of genetics and inheritance can easily explain everything I've been trying to tell you. So next time, do some ****ing research before you support a pointless argument.

*drops mic*

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

Not really I think he's right in a way, Senju and Uzumaki have their differences I would say both clans have a strong body but Senju have more physical strength whereas Uzumakis have more life force.

I don't think the Senju can be jinchuurikis because they lack the sealing talent of the Uzumaki as well as their stamina, in general they will be shit compared to Naruto's clan and I doubt they would be able to contain Kurama, there's a reason only Uzumaki were chosen.

In addition Ashura's full potential was divided in half, one clan inherited the power to fight bijuu with Mokuton, the other clan inherited the power to use them (sealing jutsu), but both clans have the power to tame them (Wood Forrest, Chakra chains).

Yet both Tobirama and Hashirama have been shown to have enough stamina to fight for several days straight and keep going.
Fact is the only Uzumaki's we've seen with incredible/ridiculous life force, enormous chakra and stamina are Nagato and Naruto. Nagato having Hagoromo's chakra (combination of Madara and Hashirama), and Naruto being Ashura's transmigrant.
Kushina showcased the ability to survive extraction because of her life force yes, but never displayed ridiculous chakra or stamina amounts.
There is literately nothing, nothing to prove a difference in the Senju and Uzumaki's body traits besides possibly the life force.

Proof of bold? Senju can be Jinchuuriki's just as much as the Uzumaki, otherwise Madara and Obito would be unable to handle a far greater force than Kurama with just Senju DNA.
Not only that, but Nagato wouldn't have been singled out for his Senju heritage when he is an Uzumaki. Let me reiterate, Nagato was explicitly chosen because of his Senju heritage that comes with being an Uzumaki.
Hashirama was the only one to have the Mokuton, so no, the Senju didn't get the Mokuton. It is very probable that Hashirama only had the Mokuton because he was a transmigrant.

It's notable that Ashura had two powers, the body power that bloomed within him and the power that Hagoromo stated he gave him after Ashura unlocked his own powers.
Sealing talent? Tobirama was explicitly shown to be a phenomenal Seal Master. It seems to be within their blood. Hashirama was also a Seal Master, not only that, but you don't need sealing talent to be a Jin.

Minato sealed His fate the minuet He sealed half of Kurama in Him Manga states only an Uzumaki cary Kurama all other die because they don’t have the special chakra for, 3 Host of Kurama sines the SO6P all have Uzumaki,Mito Uzumaki,Kushina Uzumaki and Naruto Uzumaki,thats a Manga Fact stop the Fan made assumption and read the Manga Facts by Kishi the only one with the legal right to define the terms.

Lmao, look at this kid. Minato handled Kurama fine, he lived and survived through it, he died because of the RDS.
Show manga scans that Uzumaki can be the only ones able to carry Kurama...oh wait, there is none, that's why you keep repeating the same shit.
By the time Kushina was the Jinchuuriki, the Senju were already dead, thus why there were no Senju to be hosts.
Mito was a Jin because she sealed Kurama into herself.
You mean Naruto the transmigrant of Ashura right? You know, the Senju inheritor of the Sage?

 

[JayeshMange]

lol naruto at perfect chakra controll.....pft can he release chakra from every chakra point of his body?? NOPE
and Kaiten and 64 palms is still a K.O. tech

 

[ᴍᴏᴏғʏ]

Yea well Bolt has whiskers, blue eyes, same hairstyle and blonde, as well as ironically his personality match the correlation to Naruto. His Uzumaki Genes completely dominated

Everything that you just mentioned are traits passed down from his father's gene pool, not his clan's ancestry. If we went by that logic, both Naruto and Bolt should have red hair because most if not all Uzumaki were known to have it. Correct me if I am wrong, but I was told the male gene is more dominant so its natural that bolt resembles his father, specially since it's a Manga, obviously they will look very similar, even identical.

 

[Gray Uchiha]

Just because he won't have the abilities does not mean he is not a hyuga. It's like saying that Lee can't become a shinobi because he don't have genjutsu or ninjutsu.

 

[Honord Sage]

Yet both Tobirama and Hashirama have been shown to have enough stamina to fight for several days straight and keep going.
Fact is the only Uzumaki's we've seen with incredible/ridiculous life force, enormous chakra and stamina are Nagato and Naruto. Nagato having Hagoromo's chakra (combination of Madara and Hashirama), and Naruto being Ashura's transmigrant.
Kushina showcased the ability to survive extraction because of her life force yes, but never displayed ridiculous chakra or stamina amounts.
There is literately nothing, nothing to prove a difference in the Senju and Uzumaki's body traits besides possibly the life force.

Proof of bold? Senju can be Jinchuuriki's just as much as the Uzumaki, otherwise Madara and Obito would be unable to handle a far greater force than Kurama with just Senju DNA.
Not only that, but Nagato wouldn't have been singled out for his Senju heritage when he is an Uzumaki. Let me reiterate, Nagato was explicitly chosen because of his Senju heritage that comes with being an Uzumaki.
Hashirama was the only one to have the Mokuton, so no, the Senju didn't get the Mouton. It is very probable that Hashirama only had the Mouton because he was a transmigrant.

Its notable that Ashura had two powers, the body power that bloomed within him and the power that Hagoromo stated he gave him after Ashura unlocked his own powers.
Sealing talent? Tobirama was explicitly shown to be a phenomenal Seal Master. It seems to be within their blood. Hashirama was also a Seal Master, not only that, but you don't need sealing talent to be a Jin.



Lmao, look at this kid. Minato handled Kurama fine, he lived and survived through it, he died because of the RDS.
Show manga scans that Uzumaki can be the only ones able to carry Kurama...oh wait, there is none, that's why you keep repeating the same shit.
By the time Kushina was the Jinchuuriki, the Senju were already dead, thus why there were no Senju to be hosts.
Mito was a Jin because she sealed Kurama into herself.
You mean Naruto the transmigrant of Ashura right? You know, the Senju inheritor of the Sage?

Fact Kishi has stated that only Uzumaki can survive the sealing of Kurama in them, stop arguing about Kishi’s therms you don’t have legal claim to change them. Kishi can take you to court for speeding falsehoods. That is why Kishi had to have Madara and Obito to combine both Uchiha and Senju DNA to be closer to the Kaguya DNA the only others who can Handel Kurama Chakra. And Mouton could not hold Kurama for ever that is why the First Hokage ask Help from the Uzumaki who send Mito Uzumaki to solved the problem. Are you arrogant to the point that you believe Your opinion overrides Kishi Manga Facts? Careful Your acer may landed you in court over legal rights to Naruto.

 

[lucario14]

Okay, so before I say anything else, let me say that this thread is so ridiculously stupid that I have taken it upon myself to make an account for the sole purpose of replying to PhoenixNejiHyuga. Yeah, I know that's a pretty stupid thing for me to do, but I couldn't help it. The stupidity is driving me insane.

Here's the thing. Boruto IS part Hyuuga. Assuming Hinata is 100% Hyuuga and Naruto is 50% Namikaze and 50% Uzumaki, Himawari and Boruto would both biologically be 25% Namikaze, 25% Uzumaki, and 50% Hyuuga. The same thing applies in the real world. Hypothetically, if my father was 100% Japanese and my mother was 50% Chinese and 50% Korean, then by the rules of genetics, I would be 50% Japanese, 25% Chinese, and 25% Korean. This is just how genes work. It isn't something that's up for discussion.

Now, let's talk about your theory about Boruto and Himawari. From what I understand, you do not classify Boruto as a Hyuuga because he has the physical appearance and personality of Naruto and because of your assumption that he will not learn any techniques from the main branch of the Hyuuga clan. And since Himawari has the physical appearance of Hinata, you assume that she will learn techniques from the main branch of the Hyuuga clan and therefore is classified as a Hyuuga.

First off, let's address the topic of appearance/personality. Just because Boruto looks more like Naruto or has a personality that is similar to Naruto, it does not change his biological makeup. He is still 50% Hyuuga, 25% Namikaze, and 25% Uzumaki. Same idea goes for Himawari with respect to Hinata. This is due to traits for appearance being dictated by either being dominant or recessive. When genes mix, the genes for a dominant trait will overpower a gene for a recessive trait. However, the recessive trait can still show in a person if a recessive trait mixes with another recessive trait. There's also the case of an entirely new trait being created from mixing genes (a new phenotype), but let's not get into that right now.

In this case for example, let's assume that the gene for Naruto's yellow hair color is dominant and the gene for Hinata's hair color is recessive. We can be safe to assume that for Boruto, the dominant gene for Naruto's yellow hair overpowered the gene for Hinata's hair color, leaving him with yellow hair. For Himawari, the gene for the recessive trait of Hinata's hair color must have mixed with another recessive trait, causing her to have Hinata's hair color.

In regards to personality, the answer is not so simple. From what we know from behavioral genetics today, we can clearly see that genes are an important factor in the personality of offspring. However, there's also the case of the environment in which each person was brought up in that can affect one's personality. It's called the Nature versus Nurture debate. Look it up.

What i'm trying to prove here is that although the physical appearance and personality of Boruto and Himawari lean towards a specific parent, it does not change their biological makeup. It does not matter what traits they inherited from their parents. They are still both part Hyuuga, Namikaze, and Uzumaki.

Next, let's address the topic of learning techniques from the Hyuuga clan. Performing a specific technique unique to a clan has nothing to do with the biological makeup of a person in that clan. Sure, they may be a disgrace to the clan and not be considered a true member of that clan, but they are still biologically part of that clan. Once you're born into a clan, you're biologically part of the clans of both your parents, and you can't be unborn into a clan. Take the Uchiha for example. Supposedly, you're not considered a true Uchiha/an adult until you perfect the Fireballl jutsu. This is not talking about biologically being an Uchiha, but being respected and recognized as one. Of course if a child is born from two Uchiha, that child will be an Uchiha - it's common sense. But if that child can't learn anything and fails to live up to the expectations placed by the clan, they might not recognize him/her as a true member of the clan. This is exactly the same as how you do not recognize Boruto as part Hyuuga because you think he won't learn any Hyuuga techniques.

Now, I know that your response to this might go something along the lines of:
"But still, it doesn't matter. If Boruto doesn't perform any bloodline techinique that he inherited from the Hyuuga clan, then I classify and consider a non-hyuga. He matches almost completely to Naruto so it's pointless for me to look for a fact that he's a Hyuga hybrid."

This is your opinion. Usually, I would say that everyone has the right to their own opinion. And in a sense, you do. You have the right to believe what you want to believe. However, it is completely okay for me to say that your opinion is wrong. I mean, hell, you still have a right to believe what you want to, but I just want to let you know that your belief is an incorrect one. Take for example someone learning math. Someone who doesn't understand multiplication very well can have the strong belief that 5 x 5 = 55, even though we all know that is incorrect. Many people will tell that person that 5 x 5 = 25, but that person may not budge, still strongly believing that he/she is right. Everyone around this person will become furious, face-palming at the his/her ignorance, but he/she still may believe that the answer is 55. And yes, he/she is entitled to that incorrect opinion, but we can all agree that it's pretty stupid.

The fact that you have your own opinion about the validity of Boruto's Hyuuga heritage doesn't really bother me (at least, not a whole lot). The thing that pisses me off is that you are trying to express your incorrect opinion as the truth, all while deeming everything that everyone else says as incorrect, even though what they are saying is (mostly) based off of fact. When people try to explain to you the truth, you brush it off and ignore it as if nothing but your opinion could possibly be right. What i'm trying to tell you is based off of science and is something you just can't fight. A simple google search of genetics and inheritance can easily explain everything I've been trying to tell you. So next time, do some ****ing research before you support a pointless argument.

*drops mic*

Umm what are doing. People at Narutobase don't use knowledge from the outside world...or logic for that matter. This explanation of yours may be right in RL but you're wrong here unless you use the phrase "Sasuke solos" =D btw welcome to the base

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

Fact Kishi has stated that only Uzumaki can survive the sealing of Kurama in them, stop arguing about Kishi’s therms you don’t have legal claim to change them. Kishi can take you to court for speeding falsehoods.
That is why Kishi had to have Madara and Obito to combine both Uchiha and Senju DNA to be closer to the Kaguya DNA the only others who can Handel Kurama Chakra. And Mouton could not hold Kurama for ever that is why the First Hokage ask Help from the Uzumaki who send Mito Uzumaki to solved the problem.
Are you arrogant to the point that you believe Your opinion overrides Kishi Manga Facts? Careful Your acer may landed you in court over legal rights to Naruto.

Lmao what the hell?
What kind of child are you?

Bold 1. He hasn't, bring manga scans otherwise it doesn't exist, and thus, yes, I can argue it as you've provided no proof that such a thing was ever stated.
Bold 2. Lmao, legal claim? Falsehoods? Court? What kind of little one are yah? I'm not changing anything in the manga because such a thing was never stated, rather you're pulling this out of nowhere.
Bold 3. Get outta here kid, they gained Uchiha and Senju DNA to get closer to the Sage, not Kaguya.
Bold 4. Lmao what the ****? Hashirama controlled Kurama fine with his Mokuton, he even put Kurama to sleep, he never asked for any help from Mito, rather she took it upon herself to seal Kurama on her own.

Bold 5. Arrogant? Lol, my opinion overriding Kishi? Court over legal rights? :bouncy: Gosh you're priceless.
It's not an opinion that it was never stated, considering there's not a single manga scan that such a statement was in, or even in the Databooks, thus, maybe you're the one that should go to Court?
Do you even know how to debate?