Body flicker & ftg

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So I understand that these two techs are different but do you feel that tobi completed his time space jutsu using the ftg and the body flicker and making them one complete jutsu or something along that line. Also it seems that tobi also must have been in contact with the 2nd hokage I only say this because he already has his space time jutsu when he battle minato so he must have completed his after battling with tobirama or after witnessing his ftg and then incorporated shisui's body flicker after your thought's I know I'm probly wrong but oh we'll.


Also I wonder if it wasn't tobi who really battled with shisui and left him for dead.
 

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body flicker is ftg.Rin even said it here.
And tobi doesnt have the second hokage's space time jutsu even kakashi said that his space time jutsu was beyond even the fourths.
 

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body flicker is ftg.Rin even said it here.
And tobi doesnt have the second hokage's space time jutsu even kakashi said that his space time jutsu was beyond even the fourths.

I wrote that it seems like he has completed the space time jutsu maybe by adding the body flicker no Idea but he must have to use a dimension mark or something. Who else would he have seen it done by then.
 

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I wrote that it seems like he has completed the space time jutsu maybe by adding the body flicker no Idea but he must have to use a dimension mark or something. Who else would he have seen it done by then.

there is a pocket dimension that he can suck people into sauske and karin were placed there after the battle with danzo if i recall correctly.
 

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there is a pocket dimension that he can suck people into sauske and karin were placed there after the battle with danzo if i recall correctly.

Yes that is apparent but do you think it is a completed form of the time space or ftg tech.
 

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There is no proof that Tobi encountered Tobirama whatsoever, Minato only said the Tobi's S/T jutsu is beyond his and Tobirama's, that is all.
As for Tobi, no he didn't mix FTG with body flicker or anything like that. Proof for this: both FTG and body flicker are instant, while Tobi on the other hand needs a couple of seconds until he can teleport.

And no body flicker is not FTG or the other way around. It is so clear that there is no need to explain.
 

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Tobi could have perfected his using the body flicker and FTG. FTG was/is only used by Minato and Tobi was surprised when Minato used, so I doubt he used it. Also the 4th said that Tobi's space and time jutsu was on level with the 2nd's. Not it was.
 

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It would seem that Tobi's jutsu is closer to that of Kakashi's Kamui in the fact that they distort time and space using an alternate dimension. FTG and body flicker distort space, but not time as both are near instant.
 

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It would seem that Tobi's jutsu is closer to that of Kakashi's Kamui in the fact that they distort time and space using an alternate dimension. FTG and body flicker distort space, but not time as both are near instant.

I like that answer next would be how does he make his body intangible and solid then how would we classify that or something similar to it.
 

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It would seem that Tobi's jutsu is closer to that of Kakashi's Kamui in the fact that they distort time and space using an alternate dimension. FTG and body flicker distort space, but not time as both are near instant.

Actually FTG does bend time, that is how it can be instant... And body flicker is very fast (depending on your skill) but it is not instant as it still involves movement.
 

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Actually FTG does bend time, that is how it can be instant... And body flicker is very fast (depending on your skill) but it is not instant as it still involves movement.

I just thought of this remember how tobi called danzo's izanagi incomplete what if tobi is using a fully complete izanagi to make himself intangible and solid when
Fighting.
 

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I just thought of this remember how tobi called danzo's izanagi incomplete what if tobi is using a fully complete izanagi to make himself intangible and solid when
Fighting.

Well no, he used Izanagi against Konan an he still lost his eye, this meaning that he couldn't possibly go intangible so many times as he did... And he explained it then... so i doubt that is the source of his phasing ability.
 
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