Bm Naruto overrated

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I forgot that the show is called Sasuke Shippuden, my bad. :cool:

Im just saying he is equal and naruto is limited in his offensive capabilities due to his jutsu charging time and speed
 

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Think about what you're saying.

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It didn't get up. Think about this, why would Madara choose to block something with a susanoo sword if he can tank it with his own susanoo body without significant consequences.

its just a reflex hes not just gonna stand there like an idiot while it hits him
 

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God if you're going to even bother replying don't start acting stupid over post, loser.



Enlighten me on the bold? I'm waiting to laugh at your answer.

"BM Naruto is surely more powerful than EMS Sasuke. Still, the OP has a point given that EMS Sasuke hasn't reached his true potential. You seem to forget that Sasuke hasn't been in many fights that have pushed him to his limits like Naruto."

you're pretty much talking about Sasuke's potencial and admitting Sasuke's hasn't been in many fights that pushed him to the limits like Naruto.
basically we've yet to see Sasuke full power and potencial, so we're basically speculating.
unlike the OP that claims that Sasuke is already on par with Naruto by what we've already seen from both.

you seemed a more reasonable fan when I readed your post and even agreed with some of your points, but did I judged you wrong!?!?
 

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Your stupidity and rudeness just discredits every single post you make, so no, I'm not gonna cry, right now I'm gonna eat some cake with a freaking large smile because of you! So, thank you!



:| Not even dignify to answer that....

Thanks for proving that you're a fanboy... So gullible and foolish... Zzz

"BM Naruto is surely more powerful than EMS Sasuke. Still, the OP has a point given that EMS Sasuke hasn't reached his true potential. You seem to forget that Sasuke hasn't been in many fights that have pushed him to his limits like Naruto."

you're pretty much talking about Sasuke's potencial and admitting Sasuke's hasn't been in many fights that pushed him to the limits like Naruto.
basically we've yet to see Sasuke full power and potencial, so we're basically speculating.
unlike the OP that claims that Sasuke is already on par with Naruto by what we've already seen from both.

you seemed a more reasonable fan when I readed your post and even agreed with some of your points, but did I judged you wrong!?!?

Well i'm not really sure about Sasuke's level. Kishimoto can make an asspull for Sasuke. Remember the latest arcs before the war focused mainly on Sasuke. It was Naruto's time to shine in the war arc, so Kishimoto needed to focus on Naruto's development. Still, Kishimoto can make Sasuke equal Naruto's KCM or even equal Naruto's BM. I'm going for being a little more powerful than KCM. From my own perspective, Naruto's advantage over Sasuke is the fact that Naruto has enormous chakra levels compare to him. Cause let's be honest, Sasuke's arsenal has more variety and it's in a league of its own. Thing is Sasuke's Susanoo needs an upgrade to deal with Naruto's TBB.

I just don't enjoy the word discredit. It sounded as if you were attacking my post. Still you saw how far Kishimoto went of the bat for Sakura. What makes you think that Sasuke can't be equal to Naruto? At the same time, Sasuke hasn't shown anything fearsome aside from the Final Susanoo that he used against Zetsu. I agree that we can only speculate. But im as far as to say that Kishimoto could be hiding Sasuke's true potential since this is more of Naruto's business to handle the war.
 
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"BM Naruto is surely more powerful than EMS Sasuke. Still, the OP has a point given that EMS Sasuke hasn't reached his true potential. You seem to forget that Sasuke hasn't been in many fights that have pushed him to his limits like Naruto."

you're pretty much talking about Sasuke's potencial and admitting Sasuke's hasn't been in many fights that pushed him to the limits like Naruto.
basically we've yet to see Sasuke full power and potencial, so we're basically speculating.
unlike the OP that claims that Sasuke is already on par with Naruto by what we've already seen from both.

you seemed a more reasonable fan when I readed your post and even agreed with some of your points, but did I judged you wrong!?!?

Thank you!
 

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Im just saying he is equal and naruto is limited in his offensive capabilities due to his jutsu charging time and speed

No matter what you say, at the end of the series Naruto -> Sasuke.
 

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A small diamond can take as much damage as a mountain size diamond so I dont see your point. Diamond is still diamond. And in this case they are the same substance

I have.... no words to describe how wrong you are. Every material has limits. When something can damage the material, thickness enhances durability. This is why it's easy to tear a page of paper and difficult to tear a book of paper.
 

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well all the non bm/kcm clones die almost instantly via amaterasu matagama. and All Sasuke has to do I last 8 mins. Did you read where sasuke protected himself and Itachi from kabuto with a ring of outwardly moving amaterasu. And I would be easy to hit a rushing naruto with amaterasu considering he always is on the offensive. And Amaterasu has been proven to burn chakra so don't use the " amaterasu can't hurt him through his cloak" shit

i never said "amaterasu can't hurt him through his cloak" now don't get desperate and do this, when did i ever say that ?? i said his speed (faster than the raikage who avoided amaterasu) is enough and am not gonna even talk about the amaterasu shield/ring (funny, keeping them up for how long ?? rasenshurikens ??). answer me PLEASE what about TBB's ??
 
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even so It is still the same design so you have no evidence it is weaker. It is still the same level of susanoo notice the beak and arm ripples

Same design, beak and arm ripples don't necessarily mean same level of power. Since when it was stated in the manga that the design, beak and arm ripples have something to do with level of power of Susanoo? Show some scans please.

And please, if you want to show some proofs that EMS Sasuke is above or equal to BM-Naruto, can you please stop using MADARA'S FEAT?

SASUKE IS NOT ON MADARA'S LEVEL AND HE WILL NOT HAVE A PERFECT SUSANOO BECAUSE HIS AFFINITY IS ON ENTON AMATERASU.

AFFINITIES:

ITACHI = TSUKUYOMI that controls time.

SHISUI = KOTOMATSUKAMI

OBITO = KAMUI

SASUKE = ENTON AMATERASU

MADARA = SUSANOO WITH A LOWER BODY(LEGS, FEET ETC.)

Saying EMSSasuke will have a Perfect Susanoo is like saying Sasuke will have Itachi's level of Tsukuyomi, Kotomatsukami and Kamui.

EMSSasuke doesn't even have Itachi's level of Tsukuyomi, what makes you think he will have a Perfect Susanoo? LOL
 
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Same design, beak and arm ripples don't necessarily mean same level of power. Since when it was stated in the manga that the design, beak and arm ripples have something to do with level of power of Susanoo? Show some scans please.

And please, if you want to show some proofs that EMS Sasuke is above or equal to BM-Naruto, can you please stop using MADARA'S FEAT.

SASUKE IS NOT ON MADARA'S LEVEL AND HE WILL NOT HAVE A PERFECT SUSANOO BECAUSE HIS AFFINITY IS ON ENTON AMATERASU.

AFFINITIES:

ITACHI = TSUKUYOMI that controls time.

SHISUI = KOTOMATSUKAMI

OBITO = KAMUI

SASUKE = ENTON AMATERASU

MADARA = SUSANOO WITH A LOWER BODY(LEGS, FEET ETC.)

Saying EMSSasuke will have a Perfect Susanoo is like saying Sasuke will have Itachi's level of Tsukuyomi, Kotomatsukami and Kamui.

EMSSasuke doesn't even have Itachi's level of Tsukuyomi, what makes you think he will have a Perfect Susanoo? LOL

This right here (bold)
 

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So basically, everyone who disagrees with you is a fanboy of something, is that it? Well, then you're welcome....

You just got mad for no reason. First of all, Naruto is going to become more stronger. When did i deny those facts? You're just stupid cause i mentioned that Sasuke hasn't reached his full potential with the EMS. That's why you're a fanboy.
 

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You just got mad for no reason. First of all, Naruto is going to become more stronger. When did i deny those facts? You're just stupid cause i mentioned that Sasuke hasn't reached his full potential with the EMS. That's why you're a fanboy.

uh uh uh uh

1st: How the hell did you know I got mad?
2nd: I'm stupid? You said OP got a point since Sasuke hasn't reached his full potential, I denied that based on this:

"BM Naruto is surely more powerful than EMS Sasuke. Still, the OP has a point given that EMS Sasuke hasn't reached his true potential. You seem to forget that Sasuke hasn't been in many fights that have pushed him to his limits like Naruto."

you're pretty much talking about Sasuke's potencial and admitting Sasuke's hasn't been in many fights that pushed him to the limits like Naruto.
basically we've yet to see Sasuke full power and potencial, so we're basically speculating.
unlike the OP that claims that Sasuke is already on par with Naruto by what we've already seen from both.

you seemed a more reasonable fan when I readed your post and even agreed with some of your points, but did I judged you wrong!?!?
 

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Same design, beak and arm ripples don't necessarily mean same level of power. Since when it was stated in the manga that the design, beak and arm ripples have something to do with level of power of Susanoo? Show some scans please.

And please, if you want to show some proofs that EMS Sasuke is above or equal to BM-Naruto, can you please stop using MADARA'S FEAT.

SASUKE IS NOT ON MADARA'S LEVEL AND HE WILL NOT HAVE A PERFECT SUSANOO BECAUSE HIS AFFINITY IS ON ENTON AMATERASU.

AFFINITIES:

ITACHI = TSUKUYOMI that controls time.

SHISUI = KOTOMATSUKAMI

OBITO = KAMUI

SASUKE = ENTON AMATERASU

MADARA = SUSANOO WITH A LOWER BODY(LEGS, FEET ETC.)

Saying EMSSasuke will have a Perfect Susanoo is like saying Sasuke will have Itachi's level of Tsukuyomi, Kotomatsukami and Kamui.

EMSSasuke doesn't even have Itachi's level of Tsukuyomi, what makes you think he will have a Perfect Susanoo? LOL

Perfect Susanoo is not restricted as far as im concerned. Will it be bigger or equal than Madara's? Not sure. Still you can't say he won't have it just because he specializes in Enton. Sasuke's doesn't need to have the level of mastery of Itachi when it comes to Genjutsu. Sasuke has tricked his opponents with his regular genjutsu so i don't see the point of even mentioning ludicrous facts.
 

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Perfect Susanoo is not restricted as far as im concerned. Will it be bigger or equal than Madara's? Not sure. Still you can't he won't have it just because he specializes in Enton. Sasuke's doesn't need to have the level of mastery of Itachi when it comes to Genjutsu. Sasuke has tricked his opponents with his regular genjutsu so i don't see the point of even mentioning ludicrous facts.

No, I'm basing it on their affinities, every Uchiha have their own specialties. If you're not sure about Perfect Susanoo, THEN PLEASE STOP USING IT AS SASUKE'S FEAT OR DON'T GIVE CREDIT TO SASUKE BECAUSE OF MADARA'S SUSANOO.
 

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No, I'm basing it on their affinities, every Uchiha have their own specialties. If you're not sure about Perfect Susanoo, THEN PLEASE STOP USING IT AS SASUKE'S FEAT OR DON'T GIVE CREDIT TO SASUKE BECAUSE OF MADARA'S SUSANOO.

So what he's going to have the Susanoo that he used against Zetsu? Unless Kishimoto has another power-up in store. I don't see why Kishimoto wouldn't give Sasuke PS. And just because he has it doesn't mean that he needs to be better than Madara.
 

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Thanks for proving that you're a fanboy... So gullible and foolish... Zzz



Well i'm not really sure about Sasuke's level. Kishimoto can make an asspull for Sasuke. Remember the latest arcs before the war focused mainly on Sasuke. It was Naruto's time to shine in the war arc, so Kishimoto needed to focus on Naruto's development. Still, Kishimoto can make Sasuke equal Naruto's KCM or even equal Naruto's BM. I'm going for being a little more powerful than KCM. From my own perspective, Naruto's advantage over Sasuke is the fact that Naruto has enormous chakra levels compare to him. Cause let's be honest, Sasuke's arsenal has more variety and it's in a league of its own. Thing is Sasuke's Susanoo needs an upgrade to deal with Naruto's TBB.

I just don't enjoy the word discredit. It sounded as if you were attacking my post. Still you saw how far Kishimoto went of the bat for Sakura. What makes you think that Sasuke can't be equal to Naruto? At the same time, Sasuke hasn't shown anything fearsome aside from the Final Susanoo that he used against Zetsu. I agree that we can only speculate. But im as far as to say that Kishimoto could be hiding Sasuke's true potential since this is more of Naruto's business to handle the war.

I agree Sasuke hasn't shown his full power/potencial and I'm sure Kishi got more in store for him.
it wouldn't even be entertaining to have Naruto and Sasuke fighting each other in the near future if one had a great advantage over the other. so they being equals or very close to it is the logical choice.

what I've been saying in this thread is that... thus far Naruto has the advantage due to screen time/feats so is normal people for now put him above Sasuke, and the OP and some people don't seem to understand that.
but that is something that can easily change in the upcoming chapters, by Kishi giving Sasuke the chance to display his full EMS power or giving him another power up.

things can change fast in manga, 1 day everyone was calling Obito a fodder for being beaten by Kakashi and the next week calling him a solo king lol
 
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